Greatest Tactical Performance

funso banjo baby · Post by **funso banjo baby** » 20 Jun 2006, 12:32

Which figher fought the greatest tactical game

my choices are

Ali V Foreman

Watson v Benn

both were underdogs and both did so much more than just wait for their opps to punch themselves out

Ali unleashed some of his best ever combos in the 1st round against foreman ...... the rope a dope was born.... the gameplan was suicidal AND IT WORKED..... could anyone but Ali have pulled it off ????

as for Michael Watson......his cupped glove defence was magnificant as was his awesome counter punching.... in the end the legendary Watson outgunned and outwitted the Dark Destroyer.........

Borinken25 · Post by **Borinken25** » 20 Jun 2006, 12:36

Hopkins vs Trinidad.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 20 Jun 2006, 12:44

Ali-Foreman is the obvious pick; but Schmeling-Louis I is another one, as is Tunney-Dempsey I. More recently Holyfield Tyson I was a piece of brilliantly executed tactics. Outside the heavyweight division Duran-Leonard and Leonard-Hagler come to mind.

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 20 Jun 2006, 13:22

Douglas-Tyson
Quarry-Lyle
Duran-DeJesus II
Young-Foreman
Monzon-Valdez I & II

bigzab · Post by **bigzab** » 20 Jun 2006, 16:54

Holyfield v Bowe II
Hopkins v Tarver
Whittaker v Nelson

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 20 Jun 2006, 17:01

On reflection, my vote goes to

Schmeling - Louis I

theone · Post by **theone** » 20 Jun 2006, 17:16

Pep vs. Saddler 2
Norris vs Brown 2
Whitaker vs. Ramirez 2
Barrera vs. Hamed

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 20 Jun 2006, 17:37

Calzaghe vs Lacy....http://www.a1powerdoor.com/images/excellence.gif

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 20 Jun 2006, 17:39

Braddock Vs Baer....http://www.a1powerdoor.com/images/excellence.gif

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 20 Jun 2006, 17:40

Sanchez Vs Gomez....http://www.a1powerdoor.com/images/excellence.gif

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 20 Jun 2006, 17:56

Leonard vs Hearns 1http://www.a1powerdoor.com/images/excellence.gif

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 20 Jun 2006, 17:56

Barry McGuigan vs Bernard Taylor. Take the guy with the blinding handspeed, and work his ribs at every possible opportunity while not worrying about the rest of the fight.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 20 Jun 2006, 17:57

Duran Vs Leonard 1http://www.a1powerdoor.com/images/excellence.gif

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 20 Jun 2006, 17:58

Barrera vs Hamedhttp://www.a1powerdoor.com/images/excellence.gif

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 21 Jun 2006, 09:35

BoxBuzz wrote:Braddock Vs Baer....http://www.a1powerdoor.com/images/excellence.gif

That's another good one, although it had as much to do with Baer's lack of motiviation as it has with Braddock's tactics.

-KOKid- · Post by **-KOKid-** » 21 Jun 2006, 13:58

Was it Welcome Ncita who fought in orthodox stance up until he got his first titleshot and the finally switched to southpaw and remained that for the rest of his career? I am certain that would have puzzled his first opponent a great deal seeing he would have prepared for an orthdox opponent.

-KOKid-

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 21 Jun 2006, 14:14

Ali vs Foreman
Pep vs Saddler 2
Hagler vs Hearns
Duran vs Dejesus 3
Duran vs Leonard 1
Duran vs Barkley
Leonard vs Hagler

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 21 Jun 2006, 14:47

Decagon wrote:
silkov wrote:Duran vs Dejesus 3

Perhaps the greatest performance boxing has ever seen.

Duran at his physical peak I think, show this to anyone who doesnt think Duran could 'box' eh!...

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 21 Jun 2006, 15:32

Decagon wrote:
-KOKid- wrote:Was it Welcome Ncita who fought in orthodox stance up until he got his first titleshot and the finally switched to southpaw and remained that for the rest of his career? I am certain that would have puzzled his first opponent a great deal seeing he would have prepared for an orthdox opponent.

-KOKid-
Actually, Felix Sturm did something like that. He was a left-handed fighter, and fought orthodox up until the last three rounds of the De la Hoya fight. With the fight in the balance, he dominated Oscar, and won the fights. Unfortunately, the judges were watching a different fight.

That performance popped in my head as soon as I saw this topic.

Nice moves in a losing performance I suppose. Decagon your pining over decisions you "wish would have happened" DLH got the W....get over it. Out of curiosity what was your score on DLH Sturm?

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 21 Jun 2006, 22:24

Decagon.....this of course is a completely different kettle of fish, and you know it. I also think there should be an investigation of the knockout that Floyd Patterson may or may not have achieved over Archie Moore. To this day I think Archie was simply observing the culturally accepted "siesta time" and the ref completely misunderstood and ruled it a knockout.

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 22 Jun 2006, 15:36

Jim Watt-Howard Davis
Vilamar Ferrnandez-Alexis Argello first fight
Salvador Sanchez-Danny Lopez both fights
Eddie Gregory-Marvin Johnson
Alan Minter-Vito Antufurmo second fight
Toney Sibson-Dwight Davidson

raulc002 · Post by **raulc002** » 23 Jun 2006, 00:14

Tactical?
Ron Lyle vs Foreman comes to mind lol, nah but foreal Barrera against Hamed

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 23 Jun 2006, 08:12

Just dragged these up from my memory:

Buddy McGirt-Simon Brown
Kirkland Laing- Roberto Duran
Errol Christie-Sean Mannion
Herol Graham-Chris Johnson
Larry Holmes-Ray Mercer

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 23 Jun 2006, 09:11

Decagon wrote:
kick asner wrote:Jim Watt-Howard Davis
Vilamar Ferrnandez-Alexis Argello first fight
Salvador Sanchez-Danny Lopez both fights
Eddie Gregory-Marvin Johnson
Alan Minter-Vito Antufurmo second fight
Toney Sibson-Dwight Davidson
Interesting choices. Sanchez-Lopez I is the only of your fights that I might have come up with, myself. I could probably do a good guess of your age and location from it. Were you at any of those fights?

I knew if I mentioned Marvin Johnson poeple would start to figure out I'm from Indiana.

Was not at any of those fights but one good thing about the eighties is they always had big name fighters on television almost every week. Sean Ogrady-Hilmer Kenty you could probably ad.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 23 Jun 2006, 13:14

How about someone explaining specificly what was so tactical about these fights listed. In alot cases, I think it was more a case of a fighter being highly motivated.