Andy Ruiz appreciation

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When I saw the title of this thread, I thought it would be a thank you letter from the owner of his nearest takeaway.

His win over Joshua was tremendous and never be forgotten, but the way he lost the rematch should also never be forgotten.

He took the money and ran; he didn't care once he'd won the title.

It is a shame because Andy has a ton of ability and theoretically could be a force in the division if he took the fight game seriously.

[Tony1244]

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought it would be a thank you letter from the owner of his nearest takeaway.

His win over Joshua was tremendous and never be forgotten, but the way he lost the rematch should also never be forgotten.

He took the money and ran; he didn't care once he'd won the title.

It is a shame because Andy has a ton of ability and theoretically could be a force in the division if he took the fight game seriously.

Co-sign

[Thomastearns]

Despite the rematch debacle Ruiz signing with Eddy Reynoso is probably the best thing he could have done. Manny Robles couldn't keep him focussed perhaps Reynoso can. In any case if Ruiz can't tow the line then Reynoso should show him the door.

Boxing is not all about standing and fighting as many great champions from Jack Dempsey to Sonny Liston have found to their cost. As Ruiz recently discovered, sometimes you have to catch the rabbit to eat it.

Huge credit to Joshua but in their rematch Ruiz wasn't in a position to catch anything.


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[Cyclops]

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought it would be a thank you letter from the owner of his nearest takeaway.

His win over Joshua was tremendous and never be forgotten, but the way he lost the rematch should also never be forgotten.

He took the money and ran; he didn't care once he'd won the title.

It is a shame because Andy has a ton of ability and theoretically could be a force in the division if he took the fight game seriously.

Took the money and waddled more like.

[Rocky-]

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought it would be a thank you letter from the owner of his nearest takeaway.

His win over Joshua was tremendous and never be forgotten, but the way he lost the rematch should also never be forgotten.

He took the money and ran; he didn't care once he'd won the title.

It is a shame because Andy has a ton of ability and theoretically could be a force in the division if he took the fight game seriously.

Out of breath after going up the escalator.

[Paci]

Hope he fights somebody relevant when he returns. Don't know if he going to stay in the game long thou. He got a shot when Andy is focused and has the condition for 12 hard rounds, he does has a real shot at beating up the other 4-10 top guys in the div. Need to show that he got the heart for another go at the trinkets.

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Right now, he is behind the top guys. But so hold him as nr.4 behind them. Either of the would beat him up bad. Worst would come from Wilder by far.

[gilgamesh]

Hope he fights somebody relevant when he returns. Don't know if he going to stay in the game long thou. He got a shot when Andy is focused and has the condition for 12 hard rounds, he does has a real shot at beating up the other 4-10 top guys in the div. Need to show that he got the heart for another go at the trinkets.

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Right now, he is behind the top guys. But so hold him as nr.4 behind them. Either of the would beat him up bad. Worst would come from Wilder by far.

I mean he'd have a shot against Wilder. Fury I don't think he'd be able to do much against.

I don't really see him beating a Povetkin or Dillian Whyte either honestly.

[Paci]

Hope he fights somebody relevant when he returns. Don't know if he going to stay in the game long thou. He got a shot when Andy is focused and has the condition for 12 hard rounds, he does has a real shot at beating up the other 4-10 top guys in the div. Need to show that he got the heart for another go at the trinkets.

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Right now, he is behind the top guys. But so hold him as nr.4 behind them. Either of the would beat him up bad. Worst would come from Wilder by far.

I mean he'd have a shot against Wilder. Fury I don't think he'd be able to do much against.

I don't really see him beating a Povetkin or Dillian Whyte either honestly.

He got the skillset, if thou he gets lazy and don't get his stamina good enough for 12. Then well, yeah nah. He could slipp Wilder for some rounds until he gets timed and clock'd. Fury would dance the macarena around him all night more less and just beat Andy up good for 12 rounds or the ref or corner stops it.

Would love to see him against Whyte. Close call, siding with Ruiz but not counting Whyte out at all. Povetkin would be easier then Whyte I think for Ruiz.

Lets just hope some fights happens and the money is good enough for everyone to do great match ups.

[Tony1244]

When Andy appreciates training and nutrition, I will appreciate Andy.

[gilgamesh]

I mean he'd have a shot against Wilder. Fury I don't think he'd be able to do much against.

I don't really see him beating a Povetkin or Dillian Whyte either honestly.

He got the skillset, if thou he gets lazy and don't get his stamina good enough for 12. Then well, yeah nah. He could slipp Wilder for some rounds until he gets timed and clock'd. Fury would dance the macarena around him all night more less and just beat Andy up good for 12 rounds or the ref or corner stops it.

Would love to see him against Whyte. Close call, siding with Ruiz but not counting Whyte out at all. Povetkin would be easier then Whyte I think for Ruiz.

Lets just hope some fights happens and the money is good enough for everyone to do great match ups.

I just think Povetkin and Whyte are tough enough to stand up to his shouts, and I figure they'd outhustle him. I do think Andy is more skilled than them, but their conditioning would win out.

[Paci]

He got the skillset, if thou he gets lazy and don't get his stamina good enough for 12. Then well, yeah nah. He could slipp Wilder for some rounds until he gets timed and clock'd. Fury would dance the macarena around him all night more less and just beat Andy up good for 12 rounds or the ref or corner stops it.

Would love to see him against Whyte. Close call, siding with Ruiz but not counting Whyte out at all. Povetkin would be easier then Whyte I think for Ruiz.

Lets just hope some fights happens and the money is good enough for everyone to do great match ups.

I just think Povetkin and Whyte are tough enough to stand up to his shouts, and I figure they'd outhustle him. I do think Andy is more skilled than them, but their conditioning would win out.

Yeah, I agree on that. Ruiz without stamina would be easiser for Whyte, but still think Andy got the upper hand against Pove when it comes to infighting.
No good reason in getting close with him, both guys would get smashed. Or more fights that is on the wishlist.

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When Andy appreciates training and nutrition, I will appreciate Andy.

On the money.

This sounds a bit churlish about someone who became the unified HW champion of the world, but I think he's going to go down as one of the biggest wastes of talent ever, which would be a damn shame.

[Onetimeonly]

When Andy appreciates training and nutrition, I will appreciate Andy.

On the money.

This sounds a bit churlish about someone who became the unified HW champion of the world, but I think he's going to go down as one of the biggest wastes of talent ever, which would be a damn shame.

I don't see him as that talented, great win and he'll always have that but he doesn't have any desire for the sport. He has a good chin and I definitely appreciate his ability to cash in on his chance and understand that being fat in a poor division was a better chance to do something than being an in shape light heavy that nobody would ever hear of.

[Tony1244]

On the money.

This sounds a bit churlish about someone who became the unified HW champion of the world, but I think he's going to go down as one of the biggest wastes of talent ever, which would be a damn shame.

I don't see him as that talented, great win and he'll always have that but he doesn't have any desire for the sport. He has a good chin and I definitely appreciate his ability to cash in on his chance and understand that being fat in a poor division was a better chance to do something than being an in shape light heavy that nobody would ever hear of.

He could still be a heavyweight and come in at 220 or 230. But he won't and never has.

[margaret thatcher]

Believe it or not he was even fatter when he was an amateur and went by Andres Ponce Ruiz, woulda been over 300 there for sure

[Wee Tommy]

The guys barely a cruiserweight underneath his winter coat yet he has absolutely no fear of AJ. He’s right under his skin and I just love seeing his calm confidence. Watched the gloves off and he’s just a straight up solid guy. AJ was gibbering a load of pish and Ruiz just sat there grinning after calling Joshua a quitter.

He might have body fat issues but he’s a fighter to the soles of his boots.

I made this exact same post WTF?

[Blodhemn]

Has that sparring partner mentality - allergic to victory in addition to carbs, and in the rare event of an upset, simply refuses to repeat it.

He's capable of fighting for years on end, amassing mediocre wins mixed with poor showings, but one day when he's ballooned up to 400lbs he'll take another unexpected young scalp.

[nmhz]

A great talent for sure but the sad truth is he will be remembered as the guy who couldn't be bothered training as world champion.

[Onetimeonly]

Great talent? Really? He's a quicker areola with less desire to me. As much as he lacks motivation and the dedication he is a fighter, Josh catching him brought that out.

[IRONFIST]

Whyte and Chizza would've beaten him I reckon.

[Tony1244]

A great talent for sure but the sad truth is he will be remembered as the guy who couldn't be bothered training as world champion.

"Nothing is more common than unsuccessful mean with talent." Calvin Coolidge

"Will is more important than skill." Cus D'Amato

While Ruiz, like Douglas, had great success for one night, this quote certainly applies to boxing.

Resumes such as the 2 mentioned above, along with Leon Spinks, Bowe, and many others would have looked quite different if they could keep things out of their mouths, and sometimes noses, and hit the alarm clock for 5AM.

[Onetimeonly]

What an insult to spinks, more so to Douglas and on the worst analogy ever stratosphere...bowe. ruiz sucks.

[Tony1244]

What an insult to spinks, more so to Douglas and on the worst analogy ever stratosphere...bowe. ruiz sucks.

Why is that an insult to Spinks? His lack of discipline was well known. Douglas' problem seemed to be food more than intoxicants. Bowe and Ruiz only "suck" because of their lack of discipline. Both had fast hands.

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What an insult to spinks, more so to Douglas and on the worst analogy ever stratosphere...bowe. ruiz sucks.

Why is that an insult to Spinks? His lack of discipline was well known. Douglas' problem seemed to be food more than intoxicants. Bowe and Ruiz only "suck" because of their lack of discipline. Both had fast hands.

Spinks was better than Ruiz, Douglas waz leaps and bounds better, bowe is so much better it's like it's a different sport.

[Tony1244]

Why is that an insult to Spinks? His lack of discipline was well known. Douglas' problem seemed to be food more than intoxicants. Bowe and Ruiz only "suck" because of their lack of discipline. Both had fast hands.

Spinks was better than Ruiz, Douglas waz leaps and bounds better, bowe is so much better it's like it's a different sport.

Bowe had the best natural physique for the division of all the above mentioned and the most potential. But what they all have in common is a lack of discipline.

If Marciano's brain could be implanted in Ruiz, he'd have a few more big wins, but like I've said I'd be amazed if he got his sh!t together.