Ingle Pringles Gym - ped users and mostly bums

[revpickles]

I was thinking about this the other day. Specifically in regards to fury. Every trainer he gets is immediately deemed outstanding. First peter, then davidson, now sugarhill. They instantly become flavour of the month, when really he could be trained by anyone and still do the business.

Good post. I would have liked to have seen how Fury may have developed had he been with the Ingle gym for a consistent period of time. Can hardly moan, as Fury is excellent and has improved so much anyway, I am just curious about how his style and evasiveness might have developed if he'd been there for a few years. I love the classic Ingle gym style and Pele Reid aside they've not produced a heavyweight. Pele didn't fight in that style anyway. I wonder if it would benefit our other Fury - Hughie - to train there. I've always thought Hughie is caught between two styles, the evasive counter puncher that fought Parker, and the more aggressive version that did for Sexton (I appreciate the gap in levels of the opposition). I think Hughie would benefit from the Ingle style. He'll never be big enough to just walk down big heavyweights and as Pulev showed, at top level he can't really outbox them either. At that level, it seems to be a case of surviving and trying to nick enough scrappy rounds to get a decision, but if you are going to be an evasive counter puncher you might as well do it right. Obviously, with his dad training him, he can't just switch trainers like cousin Tyson has.

In boxing, it must be every trainers dream to stand on the shoulders of giants for just one big fight!
You named three trainers there who got to see that view thanks to solid teamwork and that’s what boxing is all about, you push up those around you in your team.
So what part of teamwork do we not understand?
Without the Peters and the Ben’s and the Sugarlumps of this world, who else you gonna take to War with you bloody ’Basil Brush’

It’s been the same old faces in boxing for years and new ones are a breath of fresh air so good luck to em!

As for Hughie, show me a heavyweight more dedicated, forget belts right now, he needs a wheelbarrow for his boll*$cks.
25 years old and he’s already fought half the world while the rest crawl under a rock and you only have to look at his resume to see a Champion.

I’m in a Nightclub my father used to run for Brian English in the 80’s it was in Paignton, Devon, The year was 91, I was young and I had a lot to learn- I never listened to my father.
I’m talking to some slag by the bar and some bikers started fighting and before I knew it my shirt was around my throat and my feet didn’t touch the floor.
I didn’t know the doorman anymore because we moved around and the fella who threw me out that night outweighed me by 5 stone at least, I was 13 stone wet threw and never said a bad word to nobody.
What bothered me when I talked to my old man about this ‘ape’ was his strength, I couldn’t stand my ground with him because I wasn’t fully grown in which my father replied “You haven’t got your man strength yet-your still young!”
I didn’t develop fully until I was 27 years old and by the time I was 30 I was twice as strong as that night in the Club.
I’m not gonna tell you I went back and wiped the floor with him, I didn’t need to, my friends told me he was found unconscious in the Club car park a week later with ten fingerprints around his neck.

Hughie will win a world title.

[BigDoofus]

That story just needed Frank Grant and John Partridge for the Boxrec Booker Prize

[coneye]

succes breeds success ,, Ingles gym have had lots of success , , Do people relize how difficult it is to win a British title , never mind a world title , and Ingles have brought up many from scratch to win titles ,

Regards Tyson Fury , the guy hyas lived , eat , and breathed boxing all his life , he's had num,erous trainers and is a guy who studies and understands boxing ,, His success with Davidson was nothing to do with Davidsons methods of training anyone , he could already box ,, Davidson was just the mate he needed at the time and probably not a bad coordinater , for the training .

But what was the difference between Tysons first fight with Wilder and the secod fight , ,Thats an easy question to answer it was the Trainer ,

Davidson always had plans ,, Plan A then Plan B ,, he revelled in the camera , and giving his insight , but forgot the basics , which Sugarhill remembered and passed on .

Whereass , Davidsons plan was carry on boxing using plan A , then switch to Plan B , at sometime inbetween switch TO Plan C , and when you get all confused look at me and we will invent Plan d ON THE FLY ., He over thought and over compicated things , more to cover his own lack of experience , i doubt you will see Davidson EVER bring someone from scratch to champion ,

Enter Sugarhill ,, Now did he teach Tyson how to box , did he , teach him new tricks ,don't be silly no he did,nt did he actually change things about him ,, You bet he did ,, ,

He said Tyson you can already box , but your bigger , fitter , stronger , than Wilder ,, he only has one hand ,, SO WHAT THE FOOK , YOU PISSING ABOUT FOR , remember its a fight so get out there use your skills to move in and out and smash him , walk through the MF , and stop pissing about showing too much respect , keep out of range of the right hand , move on top of the right hand aand take away its power , and hit him with a full arsneul of guns , , he only has a straight right you have body shots and hooks , and a jab , plus size and strenght , now remember its a fight so get out there and smash him .

Sugarhill , gave him confidence , and i think may have woke a sleeping giant .

[PredatorHayds]

succes breeds success ,, Ingles gym have had lots of success , , Do people relize how difficult it is to win a British title , never mind a world title , and Ingles have brought up many from scratch to win titles ,

Regards Tyson Fury , the guy hyas lived , eat , and breathed boxing all his life , he's had num,erous trainers and is a guy who studies and understands boxing ,, His success with Davidson was nothing to do with Davidsons methods of training anyone , he could already box ,, Davidson was just the mate he needed at the time and probably not a bad coordinater , for the training .

But what was the difference between Tysons first fight with Wilder and the secod fight , ,Thats an easy question to answer it was the Trainer ,

Davidson always had plans ,, Plan A then Plan B ,, he revelled in the camera , and giving his insight , but forgot the basics , which Sugarhill remembered and passed on .

Whereass , Davidsons plan was carry on boxing using plan A , then switch to Plan B , at sometime inbetween switch TO Plan C , and when you get all confused look at me and we will invent Plan d ON THE FLY ., He over thought and over compicated things , more to cover his own lack of experience , i doubt you will see Davidson EVER bring someone from scratch to champion ,

Enter Sugarhill ,, Now did he teach Tyson how to box , did he , teach him new tricks ,don't be silly no he did,nt did he actually change things about him ,, You bet he did ,, ,

He said Tyson you can already box , but your bigger , fitter , stronger , than Wilder ,, he only has one hand ,, SO WHAT THE FOOK , YOU PISSING ABOUT FOR , remember its a fight so get out there use your skills to move in and out and smash him , walk through the MF , and stop pissing about showing too much respect , keep out of range of the right hand , move on top of the right hand aand take away its power , and hit him with a full arsneul of guns , , he only has a straight right you have body shots and hooks , and a jab , plus size and strenght , now remember its a fight so get out there and smash him .

Sugarhill , gave him confidence , and i think may have woke a sleeping giant .

Freddie Roach said the tactics were wrong in the first fight.
Said if he was head trainer he’d off made Fury more aggressive and they would of stopped Wilder.
Same tactics Sugarhill used in the rematch.

I think Davidson’s part in the first fight is looked on more favourably than it should of been.
In hindsight I think if Roach or Sugarhill had lead trainer responsibility in the first fight then Fury would of won via KO.

[Boxerbeetle]

I had a dream the other night that Wilder ko’s Fury in 1 in the rubber match. My boxing dreams are rarely accurate though, so don’t worry.

[coneye]

I had a dream the other night that Wilder ko’s Fury in 1 in the rubber match. My boxing dreams are rarely accurate though, so don’t worry.

This could be a turning point ,

[dr_devious]

Sugarhill , gave him confidence , and i think may have woke a sleeping giant .

Agree that Sugarhill significantly contributed to Fury's performance in the Wilder re-match.

Is Sugarhill still with Fury for the next bout or has he packed in?

[margaret thatcher]

I had a dream the other night that Wilder ko’s Fury in 1 in the rubber match. My boxing dreams are rarely accurate though, so don’t worry.

It was actually easier than I thought to find examples of guys who couldn't beat an opponent the first 2 or 3 times but then finally did eventually. Though in those cases there hadnt tended to be a previous one sided bashing or major decline in their competitiveness like we saw with Fury-Wilder 2

[Steveh583]

Good post. I would have liked to have seen how Fury may have developed had he been with the Ingle gym for a consistent period of time. Can hardly moan, as Fury is excellent and has improved so much anyway, I am just curious about how his style and evasiveness might have developed if he'd been there for a few years. I love the classic Ingle gym style and Pele Reid aside they've not produced a heavyweight. Pele didn't fight in that style anyway. I wonder if it would benefit our other Fury - Hughie - to train there. I've always thought Hughie is caught between two styles, the evasive counter puncher that fought Parker, and the more aggressive version that did for Sexton (I appreciate the gap in levels of the opposition). I think Hughie would benefit from the Ingle style. He'll never be big enough to just walk down big heavyweights and as Pulev showed, at top level he can't really outbox them either. At that level, it seems to be a case of surviving and trying to nick enough scrappy rounds to get a decision, but if you are going to be an evasive counter puncher you might as well do it right. Obviously, with his dad training him, he can't just switch trainers like cousin Tyson has.

In boxing, it must be every trainers dream to stand on the shoulders of giants for just one big fight!
You named three trainers there who got to see that view thanks to solid teamwork and that’s what boxing is all about, you push up those around you in your team.
So what part of teamwork do we not understand?
Without the Peters and the Ben’s and the Sugarlumps of this world, who else you gonna take to War with you bloody ’Basil Brush’

It’s been the same old faces in boxing for years and new ones are a breath of fresh air so good luck to em!

As for Hughie, show me a heavyweight more dedicated, forget belts right now, he needs a wheelbarrow for his boll*$cks.
25 years old and he’s already fought half the world while the rest crawl under a rock and you only have to look at his resume to see a Champion.

I’m in a Nightclub my father used to run for Brian English in the 80’s it was in Paignton, Devon, The year was 91, I was young and I had a lot to learn- I never listened to my father.
I’m talking to some slag by the bar and some bikers started fighting and before I knew it my shirt was around my throat and my feet didn’t touch the floor.
I didn’t know the doorman anymore because we moved around and the fella who threw me out that night outweighed me by 5 stone at least, I was 13 stone wet threw and never said a bad word to nobody.
What bothered me when I talked to my old man about this ‘ape’ was his strength, I couldn’t stand my ground with him because I wasn’t fully grown in which my father replied “You haven’t got your man strength yet-your still young!”
I didn’t develop fully until I was 27 years old and by the time I was 30 I was twice as strong as that night in the Club.
I’m not gonna tell you I went back and wiped the floor with him, I didn’t need to, my friends told me he was found unconscious in the Club car park a week later with ten fingerprints around his neck.

Hughie will win a world title.

What the actual fornicate? Bizarre pointless anecdote

[BigDoofus]

In boxing, it must be every trainers dream to stand on the shoulders of giants for just one big fight!
You named three trainers there who got to see that view thanks to solid teamwork and that’s what boxing is all about, you push up those around you in your team.
So what part of teamwork do we not understand?
Without the Peters and the Ben’s and the Sugarlumps of this world, who else you gonna take to War with you bloody ’Basil Brush’

It’s been the same old faces in boxing for years and new ones are a breath of fresh air so good luck to em!

As for Hughie, show me a heavyweight more dedicated, forget belts right now, he needs a wheelbarrow for his boll*$cks.
25 years old and he’s already fought half the world while the rest crawl under a rock and you only have to look at his resume to see a Champion.

I’m in a Nightclub my father used to run for Brian English in the 80’s it was in Paignton, Devon, The year was 91, I was young and I had a lot to learn- I never listened to my father.
I’m talking to some slag by the bar and some bikers started fighting and before I knew it my shirt was around my throat and my feet didn’t touch the floor.
I didn’t know the doorman anymore because we moved around and the fella who threw me out that night outweighed me by 5 stone at least, I was 13 stone wet threw and never said a bad word to nobody.
What bothered me when I talked to my old man about this ‘ape’ was his strength, I couldn’t stand my ground with him because I wasn’t fully grown in which my father replied “You haven’t got your man strength yet-your still young!”
I didn’t develop fully until I was 27 years old and by the time I was 30 I was twice as strong as that night in the Club.
I’m not gonna tell you I went back and wiped the floor with him, I didn’t need to, my friends told me he was found unconscious in the Club car park a week later with ten fingerprints around his neck.

Hughie will win a world title.

What the actual fornicate? Bizarre pointless anecdote

[margaret thatcher]

Hughie at 40

'he hasn't got his man strength yet! he's just a babe!'

[bripez]

Hughie at 40

'he hasn't got his man strength yet! he's just a babe!'

I wonder if his bacne will have cleared up by then?

[TheLeprechaun]

[bripez]

Dom is in good nick - he also perfected the selfie trout pout long before the Kardashions!

[revpickles]

strange post though I actually enjoyed it.... especially the claim that Hughie has bigger bollocks than Buster gonad I mean Hughies hardly the heavyweight Arturo Gatti is he?

It's just my opinion, whether you want to respect it on not, won't change the fact that he will win a world title!

As for the post about Dom and his bodybuilding, I've knocked around in Gyms like that since I was 6 years old and I've met some good fighters too.
Bodybuilding takes dedication just like boxing, You got to eat right and train right to reap the rewards.

I could take you to a gym right now that time forgot, it costs a quid a week to join and on the walls is has a big black and white picture of Arnold Schwarzenegger on the wall (He visited Doncaster a long time ago)
That gym back in the 70's was a Bodybuilding Gym, but it's also been a place where fighters train because not many people know it's still there and you can train like a Spartan.

I'm not gonna get into a slanging match over which fighters I think will be future champions, I just see something in him that should come with a health warning.

[revpickles]

strange post though I actually enjoyed it.... especially the claim that Hughie has bigger bollocks than Buster gonad I mean Hughies hardly the heavyweight Arturo Gatti is he?

It's just my opinion, whether you want to respect it on not, won't change the fact that he will win a world title!

As for the post about Dom and his bodybuilding, I've knocked around in Gyms like that since I was 6 years old and I've met some good fighters too.
Bodybuilding takes dedication just like boxing, You got to eat right and train right to reap the rewards.

I could take you to a gym right now that time forgot, it costs a quid a week to join and on the walls is has a big black and white picture of Arnold Schwarzenegger (He visited Doncaster a long time ago)
That gym back in the 70's was a Bodybuilding Gym, but it's also been a place where fighters train because not many people know it's still there and you can train like a Spartan.

I'm not gonna get into a slanging match over which fighters I think will be future champions, I just see something in him that should come with a health warning.

[revpickles]

It's just my opinion, whether you want to respect it on not, won't change the fact that he will win a world title!

As for the post about Dom and his bodybuilding, I've knocked around in Gyms like that since I was 6 years old and I've met some good fighters too.
Bodybuilding takes dedication just like boxing, You got to eat right and train right to reap the rewards.

I could take you to a gym right now that time forgot, it costs a quid a week to join and on the walls is has a big black and white picture of Arnold Schwarzenegger on the wall (He visited Doncaster a long time ago)
That gym back in the 70's was a Bodybuilding Gym, but it's also been a place where fighters train because not many people know it's still there and you can train like a Spartan.

I'm not gonna get into a slanging match over which fighters I think will be future champions, I just see something in him that should come with a health warning.

Terry Holian brought him here.

That's correct sir, I remember the stories well, one of the best Gyms in Doncaster back then was the 'Drum', everybody trained there, A fella called Mick McMahon ran it, Good memories as a kid watching everyone train, they would take me to the Yankee Burger Bar after training once in a while, and right now that's making me hungry, best Burger I've had in my life!

[revpickles]

That's correct sir, I remember the stories well, one of the best Gyms in Doncaster back then was the 'Drum', everybody trained there, A fella called Mick McMahon ran it, Good memories as a kid watching everyone train, they would take me to the Yankee Burger Bar after training once in a while, and right now that's making me hungry, best Burger I've had in my life!

Aye, I knew it. In Bentley. Brian (and then Edna) Taylor's place. The Miskos trained there. They're all dead now, Brian Taylor, both Miskos, Pete Simpson and various others.

I remember the burger bar when Ronnie Pearson ran it and Irdis before him.

That's right, I can't remember which twin it was now but I had a relative who worked in the Morgue when they wheeled him in and I will never forget what she said to warn us when we were kids...

It fits the topic, and no disrespect meant in any way to his family or friends that are still alive - but if it can steer kids away from the roids then I will say it...
She said "On the outside, he had one of the best physiques I've ever seen, a young man with everything to live for, But on the inside he had withered like a prune left out in the sun"

That stuck with us and I never took Steriods in my life, I got heavy by eating and training hard but you can't rush time when it comes to DNA and Man Strength, some develop faster than others.
I never took boxing serious enough to want to dedicate my life to it, I just liked to train and work hard and then before you know it you're a Dad with a dog wearing flip flops to supermarkets.

A lot that went to that gym are still around and doing well, Malpass, Shenton, Pope, Lloyd, Flinty, Martin, Pete Clemmo, Sharpy.
Neil Still trains, has a lad who's a light heavy I believe, he's a good lad, polite and respectful and if he stays focused he will do well in boxing.

The Burger bar became Central Park, Tony owned it and he also owned the Original Bodies Gym at Holmes Market, I really enjoyed that Gym but sadly it's gone!

[polecateddy]

I think it's all too common for aspiring professional boxers to quickly grow bored with legal supplements and go looking for the illegal stuff. I think part of the issue with the legal side, is that it's quite a short list of supplements that actually work - whey proteins, casesin slow release protein at bedtime, a maintenance daily intake of creatine, vitamin C, Omega 3's, an iron supplement maybe. Pre-work out drinks, but not all the time to avoid caffeine tolerance. That's more or less the only legal stuff that has any beneficial effect. So boxers might be quickly tempted to seek out the naughty stuff sooner rather than later sadly.

[revpickles]

That's right, I can't remember which twin it was now but I had a relative who worked in the Morgue when they wheeled him in and I will never forget what she said to warn us when we were kids...

It fits the topic, and no disrespect meant in any way to his family or friends that are still alive - but if it can steer kids away from the roids then I will say it...
She said "On the outside, he had one of the best physiques I've ever seen, a young man with everything to live for, But on the inside he had withered like a prune left out in the sun"

That stuck with us and I never took Steriods in my life, I got heavy by eating and training hard but you can't rush time when it comes to DNA and Man Strength, some develop faster than others.
I never took boxing serious enough to want to dedicate my life to it, I just liked to train and work hard and then before you know it you're a Dad with a dog wearing flip flops to supermarkets.

A lot that went to that gym are still around and doing well, Malpass, Shenton, Pope, Lloyd, Flinty, Martin, Pete Clemmo, Sharpy.
Neil Still trains, has a lad who's a light heavy I believe, he's a good lad, polite and respectful and if he stays focused he will do well in boxing.

The Burger bar became Central Park, Tony owned it and he also owned the Original Bodies Gym at Holmes Market, I really enjoyed that Gym but sadly it's gone!

Isn’t it like anything steroids - it’s the amount you take? Those giant bodybuilders take dangerous amounts of steroids. But if you’re sensible I’m told it’s not a problem and can actually be helpful

In sports, they will ruin your life, if you chose to be an athlete then you play to win-you play to be the best!
The best are role models in life, they inspire others by sacrificing the things your average joe can't!

Did you ever think why fighters get such a huge fan base?
Sometimes I think people see their selves throwing the punches when I read the comments. It's like the fighters are doing the things they wish they could.
It's a different topic entirely but social media is a very good way to gain respect if you play the fiddle to the fans.

Listen I'm not gonna pretend to be Mother Teresa, A good friend of mine told me "Everybody's got a vice in life" and when I thought about what he said I wasn't so quick to criticise others.


Steroids, in my opinion, are as useful in sports as the bullet is to the gun-Keep away from them both!

[revpickles]

Isn’t it like anything steroids - it’s the amount you take? Those giant bodybuilders take dangerous amounts of steroids. But if you’re sensible I’m told it’s not a problem and can actually be helpful

I knew Gary and Pete before they got into the gear and I also remember how they ended up. Basically shed robbers and junkies, but they were never the sharpest tools tbh. Either way, it was heroin that did them in in the end.

Malpass, Shenton, etc. I knew all that lot as well, the Donny mafia. Known Shenton since the '70s. Less said the better.

Tony Lockwood. Yeah, I knew him and his mate Ian. Idris had the burger bar before him. Sorry to sound negative but I had no time for any of them really. Basically small-minded tossers and bullies. I don't miss any of them.

No offence taken at all, I totally understand where you come from. Yes, Ian has the New Gym now just off Wheatley hall road, Some are good friends though, Graham Flint's grandson is a good lad, went to his last fight at Magna-Good boxer, Ken Pope I last saw at Fitness first, he still keeps in touch with the old man. Lloyds keeping well, in fact, that was the last pint I had in a pub before lockdown.
Gyms like the Drum are few and far between now, we moved to Devon in the early 80's so it's all just a memory to me.

[revpickles]

Not lived in Donny for twenty-five years either but still get back now and then. Frankly, they were all wrong uns, that lot.

Tony Lockwood, by the way, wouldn't have had Central Park until the early 90s. Ian, for his part, would've been a schoolboy in the early 80s.

I think that's us done Sir!

[bluethedog]

Terry Holian brought him here.

That's correct sir, I remember the stories well, one of the best Gyms in Doncaster back then was the 'Drum', everybody trained there, A fella called Mick McMahon ran it, Good memories as a kid watching everyone train, they would take me to the Yankee Burger Bar after training once in a while, and right now that's making me hungry, best Burger I've had in my life!

Aye, I knew it. In Bentley. Brian (and then Edna) Taylor's place. They're all dead now, Brian Taylor, obviously. Both Miskos, Pete Simpson and various others. Personally, I never liked the place.

I remember the burger bar when Ronnie Pearson ran it and Irdis before him. It was good grub, I must admit.

It was Pete McMahon who ran the Drum Gym, I went once or twice and a Professional boxer called Brian Gregory trained there with Pete’s brother Hughie McMahon, Gregory had to be one of the worst boxers Doncaster had produced .
I can remember Gregory first coming to the Gym he had a swagger when he put his training gear on it had his name in lights all over it , he looked like a world champion ,then he started to work out and he was …… er … crap . I got a free ticket to see him fight at the Bentley comrades club , Gregory quit on one knee.
Then he turned up as Bouncer at the Outlook night club, he could not throw himself out. Infact one night a lad from Intake, Mick Thompson, just picked Gregory up and threw him over the cloak room counter and told him to stay there ,Gregory just stood there shaking.

[coghaugen11]

Aye, I knew it. In Bentley. Brian (and then Edna) Taylor's place. The Miskos trained there. They're all dead now, Brian Taylor, both Miskos, Pete Simpson and various others.

I remember the burger bar when Ronnie Pearson ran it and Irdis before him.

That's right, I can't remember which twin it was now but I had a relative who worked in the Morgue when they wheeled him in and I will never forget what she said to warn us when we were kids...

It fits the topic, and no disrespect meant in any way to his family or friends that are still alive - but if it can steer kids away from the roids then I will say it...
She said "On the outside, he had one of the best physiques I've ever seen, a young man with everything to live for, But on the inside he had withered like a prune left out in the sun"

That stuck with us and I never took Steriods in my life, I got heavy by eating and training hard but you can't rush time when it comes to DNA and Man Strength, some develop faster than others.
I never took boxing serious enough to want to dedicate my life to it, I just liked to train and work hard and then before you know it you're a Dad with a dog wearing flip flops to supermarkets.

A lot that went to that gym are still around and doing well, Malpass, Shenton, Pope, Lloyd, Flinty, Martin, Pete Clemmo, Sharpy.
Neil Still trains, has a lad who's a light heavy I believe, he's a good lad, polite and respectful and if he stays focused he will do well in boxing.

The Burger bar became Central Park, Tony owned it and he also owned the Original Bodies Gym at Holmes Market, I really enjoyed that Gym but sadly it's gone!

Isn’t it like anything steroids - it’s the amount you take? Those giant bodybuilders take dangerous amounts of steroids. But if you’re sensible I’m told it’s not a problem and can actually be helpful

No they don’t. They are genetically blessed.

[coghaugen11]

Eubank SNR never took PEDs or snorted cocaine. Never quit or got knocked out. We are talking King!