Is it time for super heavyweight division?

[Wales]

Is it time for a super HW division in boxing ? Maybe 250lbs and over?

Valuev had almost 100lb advantage over Haye
Fury had same size advantage over Wilder as a heavyweight could have over a MW.

Should the supersize guys have a division of their own with the 200-250 guys competing for a separate title .

Seems crazy boxing jumps a few lbs at a time then allows a huge discrepancy at HW allowing guys a 60,70,80 lb advantage

[Onetimeonly]

No

[Wales]

How about an upper limit , like UFC?

Mind that’d discount too many

Wonder how many MMA guys it’s discounted. Actually who cares .

[Cent0089]

no

[Bard of Boxrec]

NO

[DrDuke]

Of course, no. We don't need another new division either, there was a one few days ago.

[revpickles]

No, the heavyweight champion of the world should stay just that!
I don't want to see a super heavy or a super-duper heavy because it just gets ridiculous.
However, I do believe something should be done between Light Heavy and Cruiserweight, but again Cruiser needs to stay the second biggest weight class in the division because that's what cruiser means.
Somebody wrote about this on Reddit and I posted it up about 3 weeks ago, he mentioned Cruiserweight being made heavier and another weight class being introduced between Light Heavy and Cruiser.
I agree with that and by the looks of things it's being looked into, I've heard rumours of Light heavy staying as it is then 'Strike-Weight' at 200lbs then the New Cruiserweight limit would be around the 215/225lbs mark.

I believe Certain weights can be scrapped too but that's another topic.

This is the link for the article i found on reddit.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=239765

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

A lot of weight classes are useless. Almost all the jr ones are
They only function for sanctioning fees

[SteveO]

No, the heavyweight champion of the world should stay just that!

[Tony1244]

NO!

Valuev is enough of reason not to have one.

[oogiebe]

Never. Eliminate some divisions; don't add any.

[Tony1244]

A lot of weight classes are useless. Almost all the jr ones are
They only function for sanctioning fees

Agree. 9 divisions should be the max. Any division within 10 pounds of another is just for sanctioning fees and corruption.

[fanman]

The examples used aren't very convincing. Haye beat Valuev. And Wilder got a draw against Fury the first time, and has beaten heavier men, easily.

[thereverend]

but think of all the money, all the belts, all the champions, all the fatties, they could make dozens of weight classes. 201-206, 206-211, 216-222, someday a legendary hero could contend for the 244-247 lb jumbo heavyweight copper WGA belt..

[Tony1244]

If you had a Super Heavyweight division you'd have some piece of garbage titleholder like Ruiz or Valuev who'd have ZERO CHANCE against the real HW champion in a fight.

[Loki]

No. As time goes on, people are getting bigger. A 6’2 heavyweight is a rare thing now. No need to introduce another division.

[Heretic]

We been over this here many times. But here it goes again.

Guys like Haye and Wilder actually belong in the cruiserweight division.

Haye spent most of hes career there anyways.

Wilder was at 212 for the first Fury bout. You can cut that much water to make it as cruiser in the weighting.

If guys like this cut the weight and fought in their natural weight limit there would not be too big weight differences in heavy.

Anyone fighting at 220 can cut down to cruiser. Anyone above is pretty big or fat dude in hes own right.

No need for more weight classes.

[Tony1244]

We been over this here many times. But here it goes again.

Guys like Haye and Wilder actually belong in the cruiserweight division.

Haye spent most of hes career there anyways.

Wilder was at 212 for the first Fury bout. You can cut that much water to make it as cruiser in the weighting.

If guys like this cut the weight and fought in their natural weight limit there would not be too big weight differences in heavy.

Anyone fighting at 220 can cut down to cruiser. Anyone above is pretty big or fat dude in hes own right.

No need for more weight classes.

Sorry, misread your post, so I'll change it.

Why would a Holyfield or Wilder fight @ Cruiser, if they can KO HWs? They both obviously have.

[gilgamesh]

Not now. Not ever

The sport has been bastardized enough. Weight classes need to be removed. Absolutely none need to be added anywhere, for any reason.

[gilgamesh]

No. But it’s time to ban all those weight divisions below 112 lbs

I don't mind Strawweight for the smallest of the small, but there's no need for any of the Jr. divisions.

108, 115, 122, 130, 140, 154, 168.

All of those divisions could go, and I wouldn't miss 'em.

All it would do is beef up the next weight class up or down with better fighters.

More competitive divisions. Less Champions. It'd b a win/win for the sport.

[Tony1244]

All boxing fans are in agreement against a super HW division.

[Verdi]

Usyk, Wilder, Povetkin, Hunter. 4 of the top 10 are under 230. I don't think there's any need for a SHW class.

[snake33]

No - without a doubt no.
Boxing will lose it's history and much of it's credibility if there is ever a super heavyweight division.
It would be the beginning of the end. If you want boxing to go away, that'd be the way to do it.
I think we are already seeing the top end of growth. Competitive heavyweights will always be
between 220 and 275. And between 5' 10" and 6' 10".
Our bone structure and gravity will stop unbelievable, grotesque giants from battling for titles
in rings where the ropes come up to their knees.

[computerrank]

No - without a doubt no.
Boxing will lose it's history and much of it's credibility if there is ever a super heavyweight division.
It would be the beginning of the end. If you want boxing to go away, that'd be the way to do it.
I think we are already seeing the top end of growth. Competitive heavyweights will always be
between 220 and 275. And between 5' 10" and 6' 10".
Our bone structure and gravity will stop unbelievable, grotesque giants from battling for titles
in rings where the ropes come up to their knees.

No, no Super Heavyweight. No hulks. No plat-footed overwhelming. Boxing is agility, speed and endurance.

Set an upper limit of 200 lbs for the Heavyweight. No boxer above should be egligable for boxing.
And have:
Flyweight up to 112 lbs
Bantamweight up top 118 lbs
Featherweight up to 126 lbs
Lightweight up to 135 lbs
Welterweight up to 147 lbs
Middleweight up to 160 lbs
Light Heavyweight up to 175 lbs
Heavyweight up to 200 lbs

[gilgamesh]

No - without a doubt no.
Boxing will lose it's history and much of it's credibility if there is ever a super heavyweight division.
It would be the beginning of the end. If you want boxing to go away, that'd be the way to do it.
I think we are already seeing the top end of growth. Competitive heavyweights will always be
between 220 and 275. And between 5' 10" and 6' 10".
Our bone structure and gravity will stop unbelievable, grotesque giants from battling for titles
in rings where the ropes come up to their knees.

No, no Super Heavyweight. No hulks. No plat-footed overwhelming. Boxing is agility, speed and endurance.

Set an upper limit of 200 lbs for the Heavyweight. No boxer above should be egligable for boxing.
And have:
Flyweight up to 112 lbs
Bantamweight up top 118 lbs
Featherweight up to 126 lbs
Lightweight up to 135 lbs
Welterweight up to 147 lbs
Middleweight up to 160 lbs
Light Heavyweight up to 175 lbs
Heavyweight up to 200 lbs

I agree with all that except for I'd keep Strawweight because even greats like Jimmy Wilde supposedly weighed less than 105 pounds a lot of the time, and I don't mind Cruiserweight existing either. Though if it ceased to exist it wouldn't break my heart.