David Starie

[Roco]

Does anyone have more info on his career or reason why he quit.

He was mooted to be coming back on at least two occasions, but nothing ever happened. Any one have more info on this?

Also, he had an stoppage loss to Dean Francis early on in his career, how did it go down?

He had that bad showing against Calzaghe, but seemed to run Ottke close in Germany and managed to beat Clinton Woods which is a decent result.

Always got the feeling he could have done more.

[Old bones Ian]

I seem to remember Starie having the upper hand against Francis, but then just fell apart in the 6th

[THEBUTCH]

Obviously a talented and gifted fighter, but lacking, IMO, above British level.

The Franics loss was always just a matter a time before Dean got to him, which ever way you cut it. Starrie's team made a big mistake taking that fight, Francis was the real deal, Starrie wasn't. Apologies for digression, but what a cracking fighter the late Dean Francis was

Not to underplay his win over Woods but Clinton wasn't anywhere near the force he was at Light heavyweight.

The less said about the Calzaghe debacle the better. Atrocious fight.

Starrie had a nice relaxed, smooth boxing style and British champion was a fitting measure of his ability.

[Roco]

I seem to remember Starie having the upper hand against Francis, but then just fell apart in the 6th

Just found it on youtube and gave it a watch. It was close fight until Francus got to him in 6th.

Starie looks like he would have done well with the Ingles with his natural style.

[Roco]

I seem to remember Starie having the upper hand against Francis, but then just fell apart in the 6th

Just found it on youtube and gave it a watch. It was close fight until Francus got to him in 6th.

Starie looks like he would have done well with the Ingles with his natural style.

[Roco]

Obviously a talented and gifted fighter, but lacking, IMO, above British level.

The Franics loss was always just a matter a time before Dean got to him, which ever way you cut it. Starrie's team made a big mistake taking that fight, Francis was the real deal, Starrie wasn't. Apologies for digression, but what a cracking fighter the late Dean Francis was

Not to underplay his win over Woods but Clinton wasn't anywhere near the force he was at Light heavyweight.

The less said about the Calzaghe debacle the better. Atrocious fight.

Starrie had a nice relaxed, smooth boxing style and British champion was a fitting measure of his ability.

It looks like he may have been able to make middleweight limit to me.

[moogie101]

He's a top bloke, I once worked in a bank near him and he came in for a banking review. My manager choose to sit in on it to review me. Afterwards she laughed and said she'd try again with someone else as I'd barely spoken about his accounts and instead took every opportunity to talk about boxing instead.

[stujones]

I put Starie into the bracket of fighters like Hughie Fury - seemed to have it all really (beside power) but something was a little missing. There have been plenty of fighters who seemed to have it all but didn't have the dedication in training or general stamina to do it (e.g. Adrian Dodson, Eamonn Magee) but Starie (as is Fury) isn't really found wanting in that department.

Seem to be levels above European Level, but short of world class (or just fold at world class). Lovely boxer and he gave Ottke a tough fight but just seem to lack that belief at world level or something. I know Woods was weight drained, but he outclassed him.

Just one of those who you cannot place a label as to why they didn't make it at world title level. When you think around this time the likes of Glenn Catley (good fighter) was winning world titles you have to wonder why Starie didn't.

On a personal level, he was around when I first started using forums and it was him and Danny Williams I kept giving chance after chance to come good - which i am sort of doing to Hughie now.

[polecateddy]

Doesn’t he work for the fire service now? I think he was just a bit unlucky in some ways. His best opportunities were all difficult assignments for anyone to win - Francis, Ottke and Calzaghe. I think he just wasn’t fashionable enough, although moderately well known at the time. Probably could have beaten Reid and Catley. Maybe even Richie Woodhall and Marcus Beyer, (on home ground). It could have been a different career! Reid might be the one who never won anything of note.

[TheLeprechaun]

The fight with Calzaghe was one of the all time stinkers ever seen in a British ring. Calzaghe wasn't innocent himself but Starie was dismal that night. It was a shocking fight and it was all the more horrific because Tyson was making his British debut on in the main event against Francis. I can't stress enough how absolutely abysmal that Starie Calzaghe fight was. I would need to be paid at least 500 quid to sit through it again.

[dookus]

On a personal level, he was around when I first started using forums and it was him and Danny Williams I kept giving chance after chance to come good - which i am sort of doing to Hughie now.

Same for me - when I started Calzaghe was in the middle of his endless uninspiring Warren WBO-mandatory-of-the-month tour, Francis was trapped in injury layoff hell, and Starie was flying well under the radar.

Of course, we didn't have Youtube back then, so last night is the first time I've watched Starie (vs. Francis). Boxing skills-wise he certainly was a brilliant talent - all long loose limbs, quick hands, and fluid movement - if a wee bit leaky defensively. But all it took from Francis was one good left hook to end it as a meaningful contest. Perhaps his tentativeness came from a lack of faith in his chin at the higher levels.

Speaking of Hughie, I've never seen a fighter operate at his level with so much of his game unfinished or missing. No real left hook (head or body), endless telegraphing the right hand, no inside game. Brilliant movement and decent defence and precious little else. The cautiousness is quite difficult to work out given he doesn't seem to have ever been hurt in there. Get a new trainer, son!

[BigDoofus]

Speaking of Hughie, I've never seen a fighter operate at his level with so much of his game unfinished or missing. No real left hook (head or body), endless telegraphing the right hand, no inside game. Brilliant movement and decent defence and precious little else. The cautiousness is quite difficult to work out given he doesn't seem to have ever been hurt in there. Get a new trainer, son!

I have been reliably informed that all that is required is his MANS STRENGTH

[THEBUTCH]

With his relaxed and fluent style Starrie gave the impression of a boxer who could have been world class but in reality he had no wins above British/Commonwealth title level. For me he was very lucky to get 2 world title shots and looked poor in both of them. To be fair, Ottke and Calzaghe were awkward buggers.

David could definitely excel sometimes at the right level, but I remember a big article on him in Boxing news or Boxing monthly and his trainer was putting Starrie's name in with Roy Jones jnr at a time when Jones was unbeatable. I think he was saying something like given time Starrie could beat Jones

So there was a fair bit of expectation for Starrie to achieve big things, but he simply lacked the qualities needed to win above British title level.

[margaret thatcher]

I put Starie into the bracket of fighters like Hughie Fury - seemed to have it all really (beside power) but something was a little missing. There have been plenty of fighters who seemed to have it all but didn't have the dedication in training or general stamina to do it (e.g. Adrian Dodson, Eamonn Magee) but Starie (as is Fury) isn't really found wanting in that department.

Seem to be levels above European Level, but short of world class (or just fold at world class). Lovely boxer and he gave Ottke a tough fight but just seem to lack that belief at world level or something. I know Woods was weight drained, but he outclassed him.

Just one of those who you cannot place a label as to why they didn't make it at world title level. When you think around this time the likes of Glenn Catley (good fighter) was winning world titles you have to wonder why Starie didn't.

On a personal level, he was around when I first started using forums and it was him and Danny Williams I kept giving chance after chance to come good - which i am sort of doing to Hughie now.

I am not sure he was levels above Euro, Euro might have been just his right level, though he never had a Euro title fight

[polecateddy]

I think Dean Francis got to pick up the European title next fight after stopping Starie, against the quite credible Frederic Seillier of France. I think Starie would have beaten the Frenchman too, given that opportunity.

[Muttley]

I put Starie into the bracket of fighters like Hughie Fury - seemed to have it all really (beside power) but something was a little missing. There have been plenty of fighters who seemed to have it all but didn't have the dedication in training or general stamina to do it (e.g. Adrian Dodson, Eamonn Magee) but Starie (as is Fury) isn't really found wanting in that department.

Seem to be levels above European Level, but short of world class (or just fold at world class). Lovely boxer and he gave Ottke a tough fight but just seem to lack that belief at world level or something. I know Woods was weight drained, but he outclassed him.

Just one of those who you cannot place a label as to why they didn't make it at world title level. When you think around this time the likes of Glenn Catley (good fighter) was winning world titles you have to wonder why Starie didn't.

On a personal level, he was around when I first started using forums and it was him and Danny Williams I kept giving chance after chance to come good - which i am sort of doing to Hughie now.

I am not sure he was levels above Euro, Euro might have been just his right level, though he never had a Euro title fight

Spot on about Starie, very good boxer but no pop and any real controled aggression. I'm no too sure he had the passion for the game either. I think it was just something he was very good at, got himself a nice few quid and and walked away. Good luck to him

[polecateddy]

Perhaps if he’d started a little earlier he could have been a real handful for Eubank. I could see that being quite a close affair.

[dookus]

I have been reliably informed that all that is required is his MANS STRENGTH

Yeah because he needs a wheel barrow to carry his balls which are bigger than buster gonad (To be fair I like Hughie and he can definitely box.... but his heart doesn’t really seem in the boxing game, despite his GIANT testicules

Maybe the lack of a left hook is due to Hughie's almighty plums riding up over the beltline, meaning when he's inside air jab range he needs that hand to keep the eggs from harm. Up close, of course, it's impossible to protect the nest without both hands, hence the lack of inside game beyond holding

[dookus]

Maybe the lack of a left hook is due to Hughie's almighty plums riding up over the beltline, meaning when he's inside air jab range he needs that hand to keep the eggs from harm. Up close, of course, it's impossible to protect the nest without both hands, hence the lack of inside game beyond holding

Yeah his enormous plums have definitely held him back. He’d also be a cruiser or light heavy without the giant gonads. Imagine what he could achieve without this testicular peculiarity

A 6'7" normal-nadded light heavyweight with his man's strength and fighting man's blood...GOAT

[Roco]

I am not sure he was levels above Euro, Euro might have been just his right level, though he never had a Euro title fight

Spot on about Starie, very good boxer but no pop and any real controled aggression. I'm no too sure he had the passion for the game either. I think it was just something he was very good at, got himself a nice few quid and and walked away. Good luck to him

I think that could be it. Loads of ability but didn't want it enough. I got impression that he didn't mind so much when he lost where others would be upset or furious.

[Wee Tommy]

Yeah his enormous plums have definitely held him back. He’d also be a cruiser or light heavy without the giant gonads. Imagine what he could achieve without this testicular peculiarity

A 6'7" normal-nadded light heavyweight with his man's strength and fighting man's blood...GOAT

[stujones]

He was quite praising for Ottke which I was pleased about...I think Svenny gets a bit too much ridicule he did get some good deserved wins.....If I remeber rightly Starie said , as a compliment and not a dig, Ottke footwork is very good he can go backwards faster than I can go forwards

[polecateddy]

I remember watching that fight and thinking it was Starie’s to win, if he’d just put in a tiny bit more passion. He just seemed like he wanted to win it pot-shotting with the jab. Otkke was a bit underrated though.

[margaret thatcher]

34 tried, 34 failed

[oogiebe]

Sven had some hometown decisions.