Marciano vs LaStarza newspaper clip

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Possibly Marciano vs LaStarza( I) had aired on the Dumont Network boxing show
which aired live on Friday Nights from September 1949 to July 1950.
(*I had heard or read somewhere a few years ago that it was on DuMont,
but it looks like NBC also had a boxing show
"The Cavalcade of Sports" which also aired live on Friday Nights from MSG in 1950 too).Or did NBC just carry the Dumont feed nationally?
Here is a link to some history on early television boxing shows.

http://www.skypoint.com/members/schutz19/boxing.htm
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Has anyone here came across any newspaper references to this fight having been telecast
either live or pre-recorded on kinescope?
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Brutu wrote:Possibly Marciano vs LaStarza( I) had aired on the Dumont Network boxing show
which aired live on Friday Nights from September 1949 to July 1950.
(*I had heard or read somewhere a few years ago that it was on DuMont,
but it looks like NBC also had a boxing show
"The Cavalcade of Sports" which also aired live on Friday Nights from MSG in 1950 too).Or did NBC just carry the Dumont feed nationally?
Here is a link to some history on early television boxing shows.

http://www.skypoint.com/members/schutz19/boxing.htm
Interesting site. I wonder what the oldest TV boxing broadcast still around (as in, available on the collector's market?) is? The oldest I can think of is the last two rounds of Charles-Walcott I from 1949.
If that is correct, what is the oldest full fight (with commercials intact)?
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Part of the kinescope of the Joe Louis vrs Billy Conn NBC-TV broadcast of 1946 exists in an NBC documentery
from 1949.It was on youtube a couple of years back,but since has been removed.
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I just watched the LaStarza - Rocky Jones 2 match from Eastern Parkway Arena and I believe that LaStarza was the most benign heavyweight contender I ever saw. Too much emphasis on LaStarza is given to the 1st Marciano fight. Are we forgetting that this was Rocky's first fight back after the traumatic events of the Vingo fight which shook Rocky to the point where he pondered quitting boxing.
Of course Rocky would be somewhat gun shy and less aggressive. Roland in his 37 previous fights was carefully matched (Brion being the only fringe contender) before they took a gamble with what his board of directors thought would be a timid Marciano. After that fight Roland avoided and refused matches that were offered to him against Charles, Clarence Henry, Baker, Coley Wallace, and Bivins, when a victory over any one of these would establish Roland as a live contender. His win over faded Rex Layne and dull return bout victory over lightheavy Jones and a decent win on Bucceroni, after losing their first match, should never have made him eligible for the title match but Weill knew that Rocky would destroy him and the fight would draw good money in New York so the bout was made.
Rocky Jones was a close friend of mine, and he told me before his second fight with LaStarza he was approached by Jimmy (Amato) White, a contact man for the IBC and managers guild, and was told "We don't want any of that stuff you pulled in Akron."
After the second round Rocky was told in his corner to "ease up." Roland won a very careful, play safe decision. LaStarza's career post Marciano II could be best described as "hapless."
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Here are a two brief excerpts from the 1949 RKO short documentary
THE PRIZE FIGHTER,released November.11.1949.
(original running time,8 minutes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef7OU89IWHo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p89oZr0FYBk
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Check out this rare footage of The Rock training.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fsGIq0t6YY
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What is the primary source that lists Marciano vrs LaStarza I as having been broadcast on network television?
Were there some people that remember it having been aired?
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Brutu wrote:Rocky Marciano's picture should be in the dictionary next to word WILL POWER.
Well said!!! :bag: :bag: :bag:
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well here is some film of their second fight for the Heavyweight Championship anyway.
broadcast on closed-circuit in 44 theaters in 33 cities across the U.S.A
September.24.1953
(but this looks like 35 mm film for oversea's viewing,has anyonw seen the kinescope of the closed-circuit bout ?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qccyxaTeK0
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Caractacus wrote: 27 Jul 2015, 14:28 What is the primary source that lists Marciano vrs LaStarza I as having been broadcast on network television?
Were there some people that remember it having been aired?
Answering this five years later... but ...

A look through the TV listings on the Boston Globe archives indicate that this was televised - WBZ-TV was the NBC-TV affiliate in Boston - and Friday night was NBC's night to televise "Gillette Cavalcade of Sports" in 1949-50 (Brooks/Marsh book) - it almost certainly was televised over the NBC TV network. DuMont is listed as carrying amateur boxing at the same time slot.

I did not see it - because, I had not yet been born.
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HaverhillTough wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 21:47
Caractacus wrote: 27 Jul 2015, 14:28 What is the primary source that lists Marciano vrs LaStarza I as having been broadcast on network television?
Were there some people that remember it having been aired?
Answering this five years later... but ...

A look through the TV listings on the Boston Globe archives indicate that this was televised - WBZ-TV was the NBC-TV affiliate in Boston - and Friday night was NBC's night to televise "Gillette Cavalcade of Sports" in 1949-50 (Brooks/Marsh book) - it almost certainly was televised over the NBC TV network. DuMont is listed as carrying amateur boxing at the same time slot.

I did not see it - because, I had not yet been born.
Good work
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