Andy Ruiz appreciation

Tony1244
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Re: Andy Ruiz appreciation

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Shhhh wrote: 31 May 2020, 09:50
Tony1244 wrote: 31 May 2020, 09:29

Has AJ ever flunked a PED test?

I thought Ruiz deserved the nod against Parker. If you look at any decade, I think Ruiz would have a very good chance beating the 7,8,9, and 10 guys.
You are actually naive enough to to believe in testing?!!! Lol 🤣🤣😂 lance Armstrong never failed a test..... Tommy Morrison said he’s been juicing since 18 and never failed a test. Are you saying Joshua doesn’t juice? 🤣🤣😂😂😂
Ok then. You are actually naive enough to believe every bulked guy is juicing? What about bulked wrestlers and bulked bodybuilders from the 1950s? I'm agnostic on if AJ has juiced, just like I am on Holyfield.

So I should know AJ has juiced because Shhh believes so? Of course I understand people cheat on PED tests, like they cheat on all tests. Mike Tyson used a fake dick when they watched him pee someone else's urine.
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Re: Andy Ruiz appreciation

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Evan fields 100000 percent juiced. He had a damn heart condition caused by steroid usage!
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Re: Andy Ruiz appreciation

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Shhhh wrote: 31 May 2020, 12:17
Tony1244 wrote: 31 May 2020, 10:02

Ok then. You are actually naive enough to believe every bulked guy is juicing? What about bulked wrestlers and bulked bodybuilders from the 1950s? I'm agnostic on if AJ has juiced, just like I am on Holyfield.

So I should know AJ has juiced because Shhh believes so? Of course I understand people cheat on PED tests, like they cheat on all tests. Mike Tyson used a fake dick when they watched him pee someone else's urine.
Right. That’s how easy it is to cheat a test. It’s physiologically impossible to put on 13 lbs of muscle in 6 weeks like Joshua did - ask any bodybuilder. Also the weird bone growths on his hands and other bony parts (which he hilariously claimed were from teenage street fights even though they’ve changed and developed in last 10 years) are signs of heavy HGH use. Ask anyone involved in bodybuilding or who knows about PEDs. You also know joshua has a TUE which allows him to pump himself full of testosterone as well?

Let me end this by asking you - you win 1 million quid if you get the answer correct... has Joshua used performance enhancing drugs? Yes or no? What would you choose? I would bet my kids, everything I own, anything I can get my hands in that he has. Given the evidence there in NO OTHER choice. Would you choose no???!!!
I would say he probably has, and I would add that I don't give a sh*t if he and indeed every Professional Athlete the world over has also.
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Re: Andy Ruiz appreciation

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Shhhh wrote: 31 May 2020, 12:17
Tony1244 wrote: 31 May 2020, 10:02

Ok then. You are actually naive enough to believe every bulked guy is juicing? What about bulked wrestlers and bulked bodybuilders from the 1950s? I'm agnostic on if AJ has juiced, just like I am on Holyfield.

So I should know AJ has juiced because Shhh believes so? Of course I understand people cheat on PED tests, like they cheat on all tests. Mike Tyson used a fake dick when they watched him pee someone else's urine.
Right. That’s how easy it is to cheat a test. It’s physiologically impossible to put on 13 lbs of muscle in 6 weeks like Joshua did - ask any bodybuilder. Also the weird bone growths on his hands and other bony parts (which he hilariously claimed were from teenage street fights even though they’ve changed and developed in last 10 years) are signs of heavy HGH use. Ask anyone involved in bodybuilding or who knows about PEDs. You also know joshua has a TUE which allows him to pump himself full of testosterone as well?

Let me end this by asking you - you win 1 million quid if you get the answer correct... has Joshua used performance enhancing drugs? Yes or no? What would you choose? I would bet my kids, everything I own, anything I can get my hands in that he has. Given the evidence there in NO OTHER choice. Would you choose no???!!!
If the correct answer gets me a mil, I'd research it for at least 50 hours. After our back and forth, I gave it about 5 minutes. If I had to guess now? I'd guess yes, especially considering both frequent and infrequent usage is a "yes."

I basically agree with Gil. It's the end all with me. How do you know Ruiz hasn't? Toney doesn't look great and he has.
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Re: Andy Ruiz appreciation

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Syntax Error wrote: 08 May 2020, 08:25 When I saw the title of this thread, I thought it would be a thank you letter from the owner of his nearest takeaway.

His win over Joshua was tremendous and never be forgotten, but the way he lost the rematch should also never be forgotten.

He took the money and ran; he didn't care once he'd won the title.

It is a shame because Andy has a ton of ability and theoretically could be a force in the division if he took the fight game seriously.
That was the big disappointment, he has the tools physically but just either let himself down or doesn't have the extra level mentally to stay at the very top.

Whilst he wasn't up against the most naturally fluid of fighters, the Ruiz of the first Joshua fight showed he can handle the power (when Joshua knocked him down he just looked really annoyed) and has hand speed, fluidity and timing. He's got the skills to be competitive against all of the top 10. The fact he'd lose against Fury means nothing in his standing because we now have a clear indication all the others would. I'd give him at least evens against anyone outside Fury if he was vaguely in shape - the chances of that happening are the bigger question for me.
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Re: Andy Ruiz appreciation

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Ruiz has very likely juiced too.
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