Sonny Liston (1963) vs. current HWs ?

[oogiebe]

At what sport?

Question is to EO.

[Enlightened-One]

Who wins in your opinion

Sonny liston 1963 version vs prime david price?

Answer this question and then I'll show you the same courtesy by answering yours.

• Is size irrelevant when evaluating how well the 1963 version of Sonny Liston would fare against current heavyweights, especially considering the fact Tyson Fury is a few years younger than he was back then, coupled with being eight inches taller and roughly sixty pounds heavier?

This is the twelfth time I've asked people to comment on the size difference between Liston & Fury (via the same set of questions pretty much written word-for-word) and every single person has flatly-refused to answer it.

No one has been brave enough, so far, to even recognise the fact I posed such a question, despite the fact it’s on-topic (i.e. Liston vs. the current top heavyweight)!

Even you have previously behaved cowardly, by refusing to answer this rather simple question! So you clearly don’t deserve to possess any sense of entitlement for me to adhere to your demands!

[margaret thatcher]

There was a Liston vs Fury thread in the mythical fights section, that's where we saw the birth of Slick Cleveland Williams, who was supposedly an elusive defensive master when Sonny fought him

[Onetimeonly]

There was a Liston vs Fury thread in the mythical fights section, that's where we saw the birth of Slick Cleveland Williams, who was supposedly an elusive defensive master when Sonny fought him

Hey, nobody ever defended better with a gun shot in them.

[Tony1244]

Who wins in your opinion

Sonny liston 1963 version vs prime david price?

Answer this question and then I'll show you the same courtesy by answering yours.

Jeff, ah, no he won't.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Who wins in your opinion

Sonny liston 1963 version vs prime david price?

Answer this question and then I'll show you the same courtesy by answering yours.

• Is size irrelevant when evaluating how well the 1963 version of Sonny Liston would fare against current heavyweights, especially considering the fact Tyson Fury is a few years younger than he was back then, coupled with being eight inches taller and roughly sixty pounds heavier?

This is the twelfth time I've asked people to comment on the size difference between Liston & Fury (via the same set of questions pretty much written word-for-word) and every single person has flatly-refused to answer it.

No one has been brave enough, so far, to even recognise the fact I posed such a question, despite the fact it’s on-topic (i.e. Liston vs. the current top heavyweight)!

Even you have previously behaved cowardly, by refusing to answer this rather simple question! So you clearly don’t deserve to possess any sense of entitlement for me to adhere to your demands!

Tyson fury is very skilled. A skilled bigger fighter beats the skilled smaller fighter

Most people feel that way since liston is by no means in first in this poll.

I addressed all your statements quoted in an earlier post on this thread

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

So who wins liston or prime david price?

[oogiebe]

Answer this question and then I'll show you the same courtesy by answering yours.

• Is size irrelevant when evaluating how well the 1963 version of Sonny Liston would fare against current heavyweights, especially considering the fact Tyson Fury is a few years younger than he was back then, coupled with being eight inches taller and roughly sixty pounds heavier?

This is the twelfth time I've asked people to comment on the size difference between Liston & Fury (via the same set of questions pretty much written word-for-word) and every single person has flatly-refused to answer it.

No one has been brave enough, so far, to even recognise the fact I posed such a question, despite the fact it’s on-topic (i.e. Liston vs. the current top heavyweight)!

Even you have previously behaved cowardly, by refusing to answer this rather simple question! So you clearly don’t deserve to possess any sense of entitlement for me to adhere to your demands!

Tyson fury is very skilled. A skilled bigger fighter beats the skilled smaller fighter

Most people feel that way since liston is by no means in first in this poll.

I addressed all your statements quoted in an earlier post on this thread

Many of us have said they'd favor Fury over Liston. EO is well, EO.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Of course size is relevant ant thats why a fighter like valuev poached a belt. But it isnt all that matters which has been demonstrated numerous times by various fighters.

[Tony1244]

So who wins liston or prime david price?

He won't answer you, but he will give you a creative response as to why he won't answer you. Hint: It will have something to do with EO seeing a perceived failure in you.

[Ambling Alp II]

Answer this question and then I'll show you the same courtesy by answering yours.

• Is size irrelevant when evaluating how well the 1963 version of Sonny Liston would fare against current heavyweights, especially considering the fact Tyson Fury is a few years younger than he was back then, coupled with being eight inches taller and roughly sixty pounds heavier?

This is the twelfth time I've asked people to comment on the size difference between Liston & Fury (via the same set of questions pretty much written word-for-word) and every single person has flatly-refused to answer it.

No one has been brave enough, so far, to even recognise the fact I posed such a question, despite the fact it’s on-topic (i.e. Liston vs. the current top heavyweight)!

Even you have previously behaved cowardly, by refusing to answer this rather simple question! So you clearly don’t deserve to possess any sense of entitlement for me to adhere to your demands!

Tyson fury is very skilled. A skilled bigger fighter beats the skilled smaller fighter

Most people feel that way since liston is by no means in first in this poll.

I addressed all your statements quoted in an earlier post on this thread

At a certain point, weight like experience, doesn't do anything more for you.

Liston is much more skilled than Fury. He was better in almost every department.

Fury got a draw against Wilder when he weighed less than Liston did in 1963.

Liston was much more skilled than Wilder.

[oogiebe]

Tyson fury is very skilled. A skilled bigger fighter beats the skilled smaller fighter

Most people feel that way since liston is by no means in first in this poll.

I addressed all your statements quoted in an earlier post on this thread

At a certain point, weight like experience, doesn't do anything more for you.

Liston is much more skilled than Fury. He was better in almost every department.

Fury got a draw against Wilder when he weighed less than Liston did in 1963.

Liston was much more skilled than Wilder.

I have Liston as an all time great, but to say that he was better skilled in almost every department is debatable at best. More power, yes. Better jab? Yes. Fury is the better mover and has better hand and foot speed amongst other things.

[Tony1244]

I favor Fury over Liston on account of size, speed, and can go orthodox or southpaw. I voted 2-5.

It's a tough pick. Picking Liston over Pulev, Ruiz, Miller, or Povetkin is not a tough pick.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Tyson fury is very skilled. A skilled bigger fighter beats the skilled smaller fighter

Most people feel that way since liston is by no means in first in this poll.

I addressed all your statements quoted in an earlier post on this thread

At a certain point, weight like experience, doesn't do anything more for you.

Liston is much more skilled than Fury. He was better in almost every department.

Fury got a draw against Wilder when he weighed less than Liston did in 1963.

Liston was much more skilled than Wilder.

Fury is very light on his feet for such a huge guy. I think hed confuse liston like he confuses everyone. Hes got a very effective style

[Bard of Boxrec]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen any troll humoured more than EO, so I guess he has accomplished something after all. I wouldn’t be surprised to see this thread go another 17 pages repeating the same shit.

By the way price wins because he’s bigger. Did I do good EO?

[oogiebe]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen any troll humoured more than EO, so I guess he has accomplished something after all. I wouldn’t be surprised to see this thread go another 17 pages repeating the same poo.

By the way price wins because he’s bigger. Did I do good EO?

[Bard of Boxrec]

Mythical Matchup:

Robert Pershing Wadlow vs Jimmy Wilde

[oogiebe]

Mythical Matchup:

Robert Pershing Wadlow vs Jimmy Wilde

[Ambling Alp II]

At a certain point, weight like experience, doesn't do anything more for you.

Liston is much more skilled than Fury. He was better in almost every department.

Fury got a draw against Wilder when he weighed less than Liston did in 1963.

Liston was much more skilled than Wilder.

Fury is very light on his feet for such a huge guy. I think hed confuse liston like he confuses everyone. Hes got a very effective style

Light on his feet for such a huge guy. Not that light on his feet compared to an average sized heavyweight. He's no Ali. He would be fighting someone who has at least twice the work rate of Wilder. Liston would get to him.

Fury doesn't have the firepower or the work rate to stop Liston. He isn't going to win a decision because Liston throws a lot more punches, has a better jab, and is more accurate.
How is Fury supposed to win this, by a foul?

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

I think fury dances around clowning, winning some exchanges, holding, confusing like always..... liston gets frustrated and quits as was known to do.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

I mean lets not pretend liston wasnt a quitter

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

At a certain point, weight like experience, doesn't do anything more for you.

Liston is much more skilled than Fury. He was better in almost every department.

Fury got a draw against Wilder when he weighed less than Liston did in 1963.

Liston was much more skilled than Wilder.

I have Liston as an all time great, but to say that he was better skilled in almost every department is debatable at best. More power, yes. Better jab? Yes. Fury is the better mover and has better hand and foot speed amongst other things.

Fury has more guts too. Getting up after that wilder knockdown took cojones liston never had

[Boxerbeetle]

C"mon boyo! He's hysterical. Same outline of arguing each and every time. You can guess 99% what comes next. So taken by himself. You can't help but laugh.

When you referred to him as EO I had no idea who you were talking about. His posts are far too long-winded for my attention span.

When I do read him, as I wrote, he comes across as an overly zealous parent who shouldn't have had kids.

Funny, I always think of him as the exact opposite of that - a nerdy ultra-serious kid trying to lecture adults because he’s read some stats, but who’s not actually had the accompanying life experience to really understand them.

[margaret thatcher]

An overzealous parent? Can you really imagine EO having laid some pipe?

[margaret thatcher]

Ya throw me on the Fury beats Liston group, omg the shock and horror Alp, we are all recent era worshippers and size fetishists who know nothing , you can lament it to the bh bois