Wilder, now 34, insisted Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield - who both beat Iron Mike - were the only two Half of Famers Tyson fought.
He said: "Everybody was scared of Mike Tyson, because of his aggressiveness and the things he would say and would do, people called him a psycho, he was nuts.
"But if you go back, and I want someone to answer this for me, how many Hall of Famers did Mike Tyson actually fight?
"And don't bring up no motherf***ing Michael Spinks, that came from light-heavyweight to heavyweight, and was f***ing terrified out of his motherf***ing boots.
"And don't bring up Larry Holmes, because we already know Larry was way past him prime."
After someone said Tyson had only fought two Hall of Famers, Wilder responded: "Thank you, only two.
"Only two, Holyfield beat him twice and Lennox beat him. Only two, so what the f*** you talking about?"
The video has resurfaced now Tyson, aged 53, announced plans to make a shock comeback 15 years after retiring to compete in exhibition bouts for charity.
And his former trainer Jeff Fenech claimed all the heavyweight legend would need is a month and a half of training before he would be able to KO Wilder in a round.
Hang on, if Larry Holmes doesn't count because Larry was past his prime, why do Holyfield and Lewis count, since Mike was past his prime? At least be consistent!
Doesn't matter. Tyson had an arsenal of punches and ripped through a slew of quality fighters. Wilder has one punch, looks stupid in the ring, and trails 40 year olds on points. He also gets destroyed by non-punchers like Fury, who seems to have beaten him into an even deeper level of mental retardation.
Wilder, now 34, insisted Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield - who both beat Iron Mike - were the only two Half of Famers Tyson fought.
He said: "Everybody was scared of Mike Tyson, because of his aggressiveness and the things he would say and would do, people called him a psycho, he was nuts.
"But if you go back, and I want someone to answer this for me, how many Hall of Famers did Mike Tyson actually fight?
"And don't bring up no motherf***ing Michael Spinks, that came from light-heavyweight to heavyweight, and was f***ing terrified out of his motherf***ing boots.
"And don't bring up Larry Holmes, because we already know Larry was way past him prime."
After someone said Tyson had only fought two Hall of Famers, Wilder responded: "Thank you, only two.
"Only two, Holyfield beat him twice and Lennox beat him. Only two, so what the f*** you talking about?"
The video has resurfaced now Tyson, aged 53, announced plans to make a shock comeback 15 years after retiring to compete in exhibition bouts for charity.
And his former trainer Jeff Fenech claimed all the heavyweight legend would need is a month and a half of training before he would be able to KO Wilder in a round.
What do you guys think?
The better question is how many potential hall of famers did Wilder beat? Zero
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑28 May 2020, 08:30
Tyson was closer to his prime than Holyfield was to his and Holyfield still beat him.
Having said that, Tyson beat several very good fighters in his career. He was better than Wilder and would have beaten him easily.
Agree re Holyfield; Tyson was still a force in 96, and opinion was divided as to whether he or Bowe was best in the world. So a great win for Holyfield, but Tyson was neglecting technique by that point. Anyway been done a million times. Back to the topic. The old Tyson who squashed Golota would KO Deontay Wilder in 1.
It seems premature to write Wilder off just because he lost to Tyson Fury. He might not beat Mike Tyson but its bizarre for people to make conclusions about how good he is based on one loss.
Cojimar 1946 wrote: ↑29 May 2020, 13:42
It seems premature to write Wilder off just because he lost to Tyson Fury. He might not beat Mike Tyson but its bizarre for people to make conclusions about how good he is based on one loss.
I know many folks don't take into account a fighter's psyche, but I believe it's of utmost importance. And once Cus died, and Tyson felt the deep shame of prison, he was simply never the same combatant. Though he had flashes of greatness, his invincible self confidence was gone and it changed him. And he became inconsistent.
A fighters mindset, is a part of his skill set. Though I have seen some on our forum downplay it's importance. Foolishly I might add.
I hope Tyson Fury has helped some doubters in a younger generation become more aware and confident of this aspect.
It's important to pursue a healthy and disciplined mind, and it is a prerequisite for what happens in a ring.
Fury's version of this which calls for a manifest daily inventory of thoughtfulness, discipline and honest pursuit of excellence, is (to me) a bit more refined, measurable and likely to produce results than Wilder's more imagination based approach. Though both approaches can surely be helpful.
The Buster Douglas's and James Braddock's of the world prove that even a single remarkable training camp experience composed of the most distilled mindful focus can produce miracles even over the best of combatants.
Anybody picking Wilder to turn this around? Hey it's not impossible....but then will there need to be a 4th or a 5th fight?
I think you make very good points . A fighters mental readiness is without question an absolute necessity in the walk to the ring. Michael Spinks probably had a great training camp in the lead up to his fight with Tyson. He was undefeated and he beat a hall of famer in Larry Holmes. He simply caved in that walk to the ring, probably wondering how he was going to diffuse the force in front of him, particularly over the first nine minutes of the fight. It was a question that , Im sure, haunted him through his training camp as well.
Deontay Wilder had similar concerns going into the second fight with Fury, I believe. He hit Fury clean and knocked him down......and Fury got up, shook it off and responded effectively. I like Wilder; I think he was good for the sport, a big presence, power and a great interview. Unfortunately, he has no boxing skills that warranted a long reign. To me, he resembled a baby giraffe learning to walk in the ring and only his power took him to the title and rescued him against the skills of his opponents. Aside from Ortiz, his competition was lacking, which is not his fault. Not since Lennox Lewis left the scene, has the division been all that exciting...and not since Holyfield, Bowe and Tyson, has their been a talented American heavyweight. Wilder's management is somewhat to blame for his absence of skills. They rode the train of his power, but eventually ran into Fury.
For his part, Fury is an anomaly. Throughout heavyweight history, the big men did not fare well against legitimate champions. They were often exposed as unskilled large men, who fell hard. Fury is the second largest champ ever, behind Carnera, I believe, but he has skills....considerable skills and doesnt waste energy. I believe he won the first fight and set up the second fight, by surviving Wilders power, put on weight and hunted Wilder down. Unless Wilder takes a crash course in boxing, there's really no need for a third fight. Only Fury will be able to beat Fury at this point.
Tyson vs Fury is a no lose situation for Tyson and a no win for Fury. Theyd both make money; itd do great with pay per view...but at 53, what can we truly expect from Iron Mike? He would have a small window to win and once that window closes, Fury would keep him at arms length and eventually strike at will.....Its a great idea, so many dream fights are, but so many failed to live up enormity of the names on the marquee.
