Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread
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It was Joshua who turned down the $50m.
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News of the fight being received positively by Irish government! :-)
From today’s Irish Independent ....
TAOISEACH leo Varadkar has said he was "taken aback" to see international crime boss Daniel Kinahan name-checked by world champion boxer Tyson Fury.
He made the remarks in the Dáil as the government was asked to contact the United Arab Emirates (UAE) about Mr Kinahan who is based in the country.
Mr Fury thanked Kinahan for brokering a fight with Anthony Joshua in a video posted on social media in recent days.
Labour Party leader Alan Kelly raised the issue with Mr Varadkar in the Dáil.
He said: "There’s an individual from our country who has according to the High Court is a very senior figure in organised crime on a global scale and according to CAB has controlled and managed operations of Kinahan organised crime group for some time.
"He’s now rebranded himself in the Middle East as a boxing promoter and one of the most famous individuals involved in that has described him as a smart, able and honest man. "Taoiseach our country has to intervene here.
"We have to through the Department of Foreign Affairs intervene with the UAE in relation to this individual.
"We owe it to the victims of such a cartel.
"Our country needs to do this and needs to do it today."
And,,,,
Boxing to Daniel Kinahan is what football was to Pablo Escobar - and it's choking the sport in Ireland
Anger over boxing champion Fury's video tribute to gang boss Kinahan
Tyson Fury praises mob boss Daniel Kinahan for organising 'biggest fight in British boxing history'
Mr Kelly added: "We also need to communicate very strongly to certain sports broadcasters and other companies involved in this."
He said: "I would ask you through the Department of Foreign Affairs... to highlight how important this is for us because of the parasitical criminal activities of this individual and all associated with him."
Mr Varadkar said: "Thanks for raising that matter – I don’t want to say too much about it but I have to say I was rather taken aback to see Tyson Fury and his video the other day and just dropping in that name that you mentioned as if this was not somebody who has a quite a chequered history in this State and elsewhere.
"While I can’t comment on any particular Garda operation I can certainly assure you there has been contact between the Department of Foreign Affairs and the authorities in the United Arab Emirates about that matter."
From today’s Irish Independent ....
TAOISEACH leo Varadkar has said he was "taken aback" to see international crime boss Daniel Kinahan name-checked by world champion boxer Tyson Fury.
He made the remarks in the Dáil as the government was asked to contact the United Arab Emirates (UAE) about Mr Kinahan who is based in the country.
Mr Fury thanked Kinahan for brokering a fight with Anthony Joshua in a video posted on social media in recent days.
Labour Party leader Alan Kelly raised the issue with Mr Varadkar in the Dáil.
He said: "There’s an individual from our country who has according to the High Court is a very senior figure in organised crime on a global scale and according to CAB has controlled and managed operations of Kinahan organised crime group for some time.
"He’s now rebranded himself in the Middle East as a boxing promoter and one of the most famous individuals involved in that has described him as a smart, able and honest man. "Taoiseach our country has to intervene here.
"We have to through the Department of Foreign Affairs intervene with the UAE in relation to this individual.
"We owe it to the victims of such a cartel.
"Our country needs to do this and needs to do it today."
And,,,,
Boxing to Daniel Kinahan is what football was to Pablo Escobar - and it's choking the sport in Ireland
Anger over boxing champion Fury's video tribute to gang boss Kinahan
Tyson Fury praises mob boss Daniel Kinahan for organising 'biggest fight in British boxing history'
Mr Kelly added: "We also need to communicate very strongly to certain sports broadcasters and other companies involved in this."
He said: "I would ask you through the Department of Foreign Affairs... to highlight how important this is for us because of the parasitical criminal activities of this individual and all associated with him."
Mr Varadkar said: "Thanks for raising that matter – I don’t want to say too much about it but I have to say I was rather taken aback to see Tyson Fury and his video the other day and just dropping in that name that you mentioned as if this was not somebody who has a quite a chequered history in this State and elsewhere.
"While I can’t comment on any particular Garda operation I can certainly assure you there has been contact between the Department of Foreign Affairs and the authorities in the United Arab Emirates about that matter."
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john2345 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2020, 09:46
And,,,,
Boxing to Daniel Kinahan is what football was to Pablo Escobar - and it's choking the sport in Ireland
Anger over boxing champion Fury's video tribute to gang boss Kinahan
Tyson Fury praises mob boss Daniel Kinahan for organising 'biggest fight in British boxing history'
Mr Kelly added: "We also need to communicate very strongly to certain sports broadcasters and other companies involved in this."
He said: "I would ask you through the Department of Foreign Affairs... to highlight how important this is for us because of the parasitical criminal activities of this individual and all associated with him."
Mr Varadkar said: "Thanks for raising that matter – I don’t want to say too much about it but I have to say I was rather taken aback to see Tyson Fury and his video the other day and just dropping in that name that you mentioned as if this was not somebody who has a quite a chequered history in this State and elsewhere.
"While I can’t comment on any particular Garda operation I can certainly assure you there has been contact between the Department of Foreign Affairs and the authorities in the United Arab Emirates about that matter."
I stopped reading after I saw who write the article. Wouldn't read any articles from that gobshíté ewan mckenna.
Loves to be controversial but can't take anything that gets thrown back at him.
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Bob Arum saying it's a non-story and the splits were obvious and were verbally agreed 4 weeks ago.
Hearn announcing it just after Joshua's comments at the protest will surely make everyone forget them
Hearn announcing it just after Joshua's comments at the protest will surely make everyone forget them
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Eddie Hearn gives more info on Fury vs Joshua agreement and roadblocks to get past
It’s shaping up as a huge fight, no question. But as Tyson Fury did on ESPN on Thursday night, Matchroom promoter Eddie Hearn warns that there is still a lot of ground to cover.
“There’s still work to do, but the good news is we have a deal in place in principle, in terms of the financial end of the deal. Mostly in all these major fights, that is the principal problem in getting the deal over the line. That’s been agreed,” Hearn said in a YouTube interview.
“There are obstacles to overcome — some broadcast issues, venue, of course, has to be decided as well, and the small matter of a couple of fights in between. Dillian Whyte’s mandatory (against Fury), as well, which we have to push for with the WBC. So still a long way to go, but everyone confident that we’re moving toward the biggest fight in boxing in 2021.”
The broadcast issues would be both the United States and United Kingdom, one figures. In the U.S., Joshua has fought exclusively on DAZN since its launch in the States, and Fury has his deal with Top Rank and ESPN.
And this, obviously, is a pay-per-view quality fight. To take it off of traditional PPV, DAZN would likely have to cough up an absolutely enormous rights fee to replace the PPV that would come in. That simply might not be possible, and in all reality, it’s probably a bad idea. DAZN may be better served simply offering this, alongside ESPN+, as a PPV fight on their service, as we saw ESPN and FOX do with their streaming platforms for Wilder-Fury 2, with an old school cable and satellite TV option also available.
As for venue, Hearn knows British boxing fans would love to see it at Wembley Stadium or another of the big venues in the United Kingdom, but says it’s not that simple.
“Everyone will talk about this fight taking place in the U.K. because it’s between two Brits, and that’s, in an ideal world, definitely something that we’d look at and look favorably upon,” he began. “I keep saying to people — I had a little argument on the radio, they said, ‘Just do it in England! Just do it in England!’ It doesn’t work like that. We have to go back to report to these peoples teams, we have to report the offers that are coming in.
“It’s a fight between two guys. As I said to Nicky Campbell, you can sit in the studio in your comfy chair [and say] ‘Just do it here!’ These guys are going in to have a fight in a 20-by-20-foot ring with 10-ounce gloves on, and it’s a dangerous, dangerous sport. So let them make their money.
“If we can do the fight in the U.K., that’s fantastic. We know that Saudi Arabia would love to have this fight, and we had a wonderful experience there last time with the Andy Ruiz there. Tyson Fury’s also performed there in WWE. We’ve had offers from China, we’ve had offers from around the world.
“This is the biggest fight in boxing. It doesn’t get any bigger. There’s not going to be any country that stages major events that won’t want this fight, and that’s something to be dealt with during the next month or so.”
As Hearn is saying — and he goes into more in the video up top — there are lots of hurdles to leap still. Fury has Deontay Wilder and maybe Dillian Whyte. Joshua has Kubrat Pulev and maybe Oleksandr Usyk. And any loss by Fury or Joshua sinks this agreement.
There’s a lot of road to cover. It’s encouraging news, but it’s no guarantee.
It’s shaping up as a huge fight, no question. But as Tyson Fury did on ESPN on Thursday night, Matchroom promoter Eddie Hearn warns that there is still a lot of ground to cover.
“There’s still work to do, but the good news is we have a deal in place in principle, in terms of the financial end of the deal. Mostly in all these major fights, that is the principal problem in getting the deal over the line. That’s been agreed,” Hearn said in a YouTube interview.
“There are obstacles to overcome — some broadcast issues, venue, of course, has to be decided as well, and the small matter of a couple of fights in between. Dillian Whyte’s mandatory (against Fury), as well, which we have to push for with the WBC. So still a long way to go, but everyone confident that we’re moving toward the biggest fight in boxing in 2021.”
The broadcast issues would be both the United States and United Kingdom, one figures. In the U.S., Joshua has fought exclusively on DAZN since its launch in the States, and Fury has his deal with Top Rank and ESPN.
And this, obviously, is a pay-per-view quality fight. To take it off of traditional PPV, DAZN would likely have to cough up an absolutely enormous rights fee to replace the PPV that would come in. That simply might not be possible, and in all reality, it’s probably a bad idea. DAZN may be better served simply offering this, alongside ESPN+, as a PPV fight on their service, as we saw ESPN and FOX do with their streaming platforms for Wilder-Fury 2, with an old school cable and satellite TV option also available.
As for venue, Hearn knows British boxing fans would love to see it at Wembley Stadium or another of the big venues in the United Kingdom, but says it’s not that simple.
“Everyone will talk about this fight taking place in the U.K. because it’s between two Brits, and that’s, in an ideal world, definitely something that we’d look at and look favorably upon,” he began. “I keep saying to people — I had a little argument on the radio, they said, ‘Just do it in England! Just do it in England!’ It doesn’t work like that. We have to go back to report to these peoples teams, we have to report the offers that are coming in.
“It’s a fight between two guys. As I said to Nicky Campbell, you can sit in the studio in your comfy chair [and say] ‘Just do it here!’ These guys are going in to have a fight in a 20-by-20-foot ring with 10-ounce gloves on, and it’s a dangerous, dangerous sport. So let them make their money.
“If we can do the fight in the U.K., that’s fantastic. We know that Saudi Arabia would love to have this fight, and we had a wonderful experience there last time with the Andy Ruiz there. Tyson Fury’s also performed there in WWE. We’ve had offers from China, we’ve had offers from around the world.
“This is the biggest fight in boxing. It doesn’t get any bigger. There’s not going to be any country that stages major events that won’t want this fight, and that’s something to be dealt with during the next month or so.”
As Hearn is saying — and he goes into more in the video up top — there are lots of hurdles to leap still. Fury has Deontay Wilder and maybe Dillian Whyte. Joshua has Kubrat Pulev and maybe Oleksandr Usyk. And any loss by Fury or Joshua sinks this agreement.
There’s a lot of road to cover. It’s encouraging news, but it’s no guarantee.
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BT Sport distance themselves from Tyson Fury vs Anthony Joshua talks
BT Sport has made a statement distancing themselves from negotiations to make an undisputed heavyweight title fight between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua a reality.
Following on from allegedly and Bob Arum confirming they have left discussions with Eddie Hearn and Fury’s advisor Daniel Kinahan, BT Sport has stated they will review any offer to broadcast the bout on their network.
Warren’s Queensberry Promotions had previously said: “We can confirm negotiations have taken place between Eddie Hearn and Tyson’s adviser Daniel Kinahan.
“Both Queensberry and Top Rank, as Tyson’s exclusive promoters, and MTK Global, his management team, agreed that this would be the best way forward due to the existing relationship between Eddie and Daniel.”
Since then, Irish Government figures have flagged the involvement of Kinahan, who is acting as the deal-broker for Tyson Fury.
Kinahan has been accused of being involved in high-profile crime by several media sources in his home country of Ireland.
TYSON FURY on BT SPORT
In what seems a direct reaction to the negative press, BT Sport said the following through a spokesperson.
“BT Sport is not currently involved in the Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua negotiations.
“Our broadcast agreement for the fights of Tyson Fury. It is exclusive with allegedly’s Queensberry Promotions.
“We have had no dealings with MTK or any of their representatives for this fight.
“BT reviews all sports rights and broadcast deals with the appropriate levels of responsibility and scrutiny before deciding on a course of action.
“We cannot comment further on a potential fight. Which to the best of our knowledge is not confirmed. And which has not been offered to us.”
BT Sport has made a statement distancing themselves from negotiations to make an undisputed heavyweight title fight between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua a reality.
Following on from allegedly and Bob Arum confirming they have left discussions with Eddie Hearn and Fury’s advisor Daniel Kinahan, BT Sport has stated they will review any offer to broadcast the bout on their network.
Warren’s Queensberry Promotions had previously said: “We can confirm negotiations have taken place between Eddie Hearn and Tyson’s adviser Daniel Kinahan.
“Both Queensberry and Top Rank, as Tyson’s exclusive promoters, and MTK Global, his management team, agreed that this would be the best way forward due to the existing relationship between Eddie and Daniel.”
Since then, Irish Government figures have flagged the involvement of Kinahan, who is acting as the deal-broker for Tyson Fury.
Kinahan has been accused of being involved in high-profile crime by several media sources in his home country of Ireland.
TYSON FURY on BT SPORT
In what seems a direct reaction to the negative press, BT Sport said the following through a spokesperson.
“BT Sport is not currently involved in the Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua negotiations.
“Our broadcast agreement for the fights of Tyson Fury. It is exclusive with allegedly’s Queensberry Promotions.
“We have had no dealings with MTK or any of their representatives for this fight.
“BT reviews all sports rights and broadcast deals with the appropriate levels of responsibility and scrutiny before deciding on a course of action.
“We cannot comment further on a potential fight. Which to the best of our knowledge is not confirmed. And which has not been offered to us.”
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Fury-Joshua Showdown Not Likely To Happen in UK, Says Hearn
"If we can do the fight in the UK, fantastic, (but) we know Saudi Arabia would love to have this fight. We had a wonderful experience last time with the Andy Ruiz fight. We've had offers from China, we've had offers from around the world. This is the biggest fight in boxing, it doesn't get any bigger," Hearn said.
"There's not going to be any country that stages major events that won't want this fight. Everyone will talk about this fight taking place in the UK but it doesn't work like that.
"We have to go back to report the offers to these people's teams. It's a dangerous sport so let them make their money. It's a two-fight deal so one will take place in an alternative venue to the other fight. If we can do the fight in the UK, fantastic."
Going to be looking at offers from Saudi Arabia and China. Casino’s in Las Vegas too.
UK venues, financially, can’t compete.
"If we can do the fight in the UK, fantastic, (but) we know Saudi Arabia would love to have this fight. We had a wonderful experience last time with the Andy Ruiz fight. We've had offers from China, we've had offers from around the world. This is the biggest fight in boxing, it doesn't get any bigger," Hearn said.
"There's not going to be any country that stages major events that won't want this fight. Everyone will talk about this fight taking place in the UK but it doesn't work like that.
"We have to go back to report the offers to these people's teams. It's a dangerous sport so let them make their money. It's a two-fight deal so one will take place in an alternative venue to the other fight. If we can do the fight in the UK, fantastic."
Going to be looking at offers from Saudi Arabia and China. Casino’s in Las Vegas too.
UK venues, financially, can’t compete.
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China! China! CHina!
Big dim sung fight night
Big dim sung fight night
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Perhaps the biggest fight in British history and it's not goingto be in England? That is completely wrong.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Jun 2020, 07:27 Fury-Joshua Showdown Not Likely To Happen in UK, Says Hearn
"If we can do the fight in the UK, fantastic, (but) we know Saudi Arabia would love to have this fight. We had a wonderful experience last time with the Andy Ruiz fight. We've had offers from China, we've had offers from around the world. This is the biggest fight in boxing, it doesn't get any bigger," Hearn said.
"There's not going to be any country that stages major events that won't want this fight. Everyone will talk about this fight taking place in the UK but it doesn't work like that.
"We have to go back to report the offers to these people's teams. It's a dangerous sport so let them make their money. It's a two-fight deal so one will take place in an alternative venue to the other fight. If we can do the fight in the UK, fantastic."
Going to be looking at offers from Saudi Arabia and China. Casino’s in Las Vegas too.
UK venues, financially, can’t compete.
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probably works in Fury's favour, his biggest enemy is himself getting complacent and out of shape. 2 fights to keep him focussed sounds good.Flump wrote: ↑10 Jun 2020, 11:35So I'm confused on the timeline. Fury has to beat the dangerous Wilder and Whyte, while all Joshua has to do is roll over the limited Pulev and the decks are clear?Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Jun 2020, 10:15 Now we just need to wait for Arum or Frank to come out and say Eddie is talking crap. bla bla..
They just want to announce things first.
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Whytes shot isnt ordered until 2021 and I thought unifications take precedence , not sure he matters
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Box office price no doubt will be 29.95
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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Jun 2020, 17:57 Whytes shot isnt ordered until 2021 and I thought unifications take precedence , not sure he matters
Yessirreee.
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There is a rumour that ppv price might be £49.95. Would that put anyone off?
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Pffft wilder turned down $100m from dazn! And actual, real offer, unlike the supposed $50m
He never wanted to fight any of the best guys in, or close to their prime. His record shows that. Love the irony that he thought fury was the path of least resistance
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I wonder if AJ will speak out against the horrible human rights in Saudi Arabia, especially of the minority workers there, or if he will leave all his rhetoric to nasty UK.
Or maybe he can promote the idea of fighting on Africa (for a much reduced payday?).
Or maybe he can promote the idea of fighting on Africa (for a much reduced payday?).
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UK dinner show could generate $17m
Anthony Joshua vs Kubrat Pulev could take place under dinner show condition with elevated prices, according to Top Rank boss Bob Arum.
Firstly, speaking as talks continue to find a way around the current coronavirus social distancing measures, Arum is hoping to find a way to do the show in the UK.
Alongside Matchroom promoter Eddie Hearn, Arum is looking into ways to have a crowd present for the IBF mandatory encounter.
Something like the recent shows laid on by Hearn in Monaco for the Principality. Ultimately turning Joshua vs Pulev into a black-tie event.
Targeting big-money clients and charging thousands to be in attendance, Joshua vs Pulev may well be the hottest and most lucrative card of the year.
“Eddie told me about the possibility of doing it at the Royal Albert Hall with 1,000 people,” Arum told Sky Sports. “Well-spaced. Also serving a meal and drinks. Getting a gate by making it a prestigious ticket to have.”
The fact only 1,000 would be able to attend with a silver service menu added into the boxing, there’s a potential for a decent heap of cash to be banked.
ANTHONY JOSHUA BIG BUSINESS
AJ is big business in the UK. He has plenty of celebrity friends. Punters who would be more than willing to pay tens of thousands of pounds for the privilege of being there.
As measures continue to be taken in order to keep the fight on British soil, opponent Pulev is working away in a bid to snatch away the titles – even in the UK.
“Kubrat is getting ready for him,” manager Ivalyo Gotsev also told Sky Sports. “The longer it takes, the bigger punishment.
“Kubrat is in beast mode. He is training. He is preparing with one focus, one thing in mind – AJ.
“We’re basically waiting for the UK and London to reopen. To start sports back. Ultimately that’s where this fight is heading. They said it repeatedly.
“I personally don’t think that they ever had any means to do anything, anywhere else.”
Charging £10,000 to a thousand attendees could generate a gate of £10,000,000 for Joshua vs Pulev.
Furthermore, exchange that currency for dollars and almost $17,000,000 would be secured.
Anthony Joshua vs Kubrat Pulev could take place under dinner show condition with elevated prices, according to Top Rank boss Bob Arum.
Firstly, speaking as talks continue to find a way around the current coronavirus social distancing measures, Arum is hoping to find a way to do the show in the UK.
Alongside Matchroom promoter Eddie Hearn, Arum is looking into ways to have a crowd present for the IBF mandatory encounter.
Something like the recent shows laid on by Hearn in Monaco for the Principality. Ultimately turning Joshua vs Pulev into a black-tie event.
Targeting big-money clients and charging thousands to be in attendance, Joshua vs Pulev may well be the hottest and most lucrative card of the year.
“Eddie told me about the possibility of doing it at the Royal Albert Hall with 1,000 people,” Arum told Sky Sports. “Well-spaced. Also serving a meal and drinks. Getting a gate by making it a prestigious ticket to have.”
The fact only 1,000 would be able to attend with a silver service menu added into the boxing, there’s a potential for a decent heap of cash to be banked.
ANTHONY JOSHUA BIG BUSINESS
AJ is big business in the UK. He has plenty of celebrity friends. Punters who would be more than willing to pay tens of thousands of pounds for the privilege of being there.
As measures continue to be taken in order to keep the fight on British soil, opponent Pulev is working away in a bid to snatch away the titles – even in the UK.
“Kubrat is getting ready for him,” manager Ivalyo Gotsev also told Sky Sports. “The longer it takes, the bigger punishment.
“Kubrat is in beast mode. He is training. He is preparing with one focus, one thing in mind – AJ.
“We’re basically waiting for the UK and London to reopen. To start sports back. Ultimately that’s where this fight is heading. They said it repeatedly.
“I personally don’t think that they ever had any means to do anything, anywhere else.”
Charging £10,000 to a thousand attendees could generate a gate of £10,000,000 for Joshua vs Pulev.
Furthermore, exchange that currency for dollars and almost $17,000,000 would be secured.
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It has been clear for a while who the top 3 heavyweights in the world are. One of the three has managed to avoid the other two, and it's not Deontay Wilder.Jonny ninja wrote: ↑20 Jun 2020, 11:16Pffft wilder turned down $100m from dazn! And actual, real offer, unlike the supposed $50m
He never wanted to fight any of the best guys in, or close to their prime. His record shows that. Love the irony that he thought fury was the path of least resistance
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This fight won't go ahead. Joshua is scared of facing anyone who is a threat. Especially since Ruiz toyed with him.
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Tyson Fury reportedly drops Daniel Kinahan as negotiator
The crime boss will play no role in negotiating future bouts, according to promoter
Heavyweight boxing champion Tyson Fury has reportedly dropped Daniel Kinahan as his negotiator in the midst of mounting criticism of the Irish drug smuggler’s involvement in professional boxing.
Kinahan, who is believed to control a international criminal organisation worth around €1 billion has acted as an advisor to the British boxer for the last three years and has been instrumental in brokering a two fight deal with rival Anthony Joshua, one of the most anticipated bouts in boxing history.
If confirmed, the development is yet another blow to Kinahan’s recent efforts to whitewash his reputation on the international stage and distance himself from court findings in Ireland that he is a major figure in a gang feud which has caused 18 deaths.
Last week, KHK, a company owned by a Bahraini prince cut ties with Kinahan, a month after hiring him as an advisor to much publicity. Citing its “integrity and deep-rooted principles in the sports industry”, KHK said it “has discontinued engagement with Daniel Kinahan and he is no longer an adviser to KHK Sports”.
The parting of Fury and Kinahan was reported in the Daily Telegraph newspaper.
Fury’s boxing prompter Bob Arum told the newspaper he had discussed the matter with the boxer and they decided Arum and his company Top Rank will handle the negotiations for forthcoming fights.
“Over the weekend I’ve had a lot of conversations with Tyson Fury and what we both decided is that myself, Top Rank and Fury will do all negotiations for fights in the future.
“Whether it’s for Joshua or Wilder or anybody else. We’ve informed Eddie Hearn about that. He knows where to go for the negotiations. Tyson and I have had long negotiations about it. That’s the way it’s going to be.”
“This will eliminate a lot of confusion,” added Arum. “We’ve talked with Dan [Kinahan], who Tyson and I both love and admire and respect, and he understands that it’s best the negotiations on Tyson’s side be handled that way. Both Tyson and I have each discussed this with Dan and he is amenable and satisfied and wished us luck. He only wants the best for Tyson Fury."
Two weeks ago Fury thanked and effusively praised Kinahan for his role in arranging the fight, leading to a media and political backlash. Several Irish politicians, including Taoiseach Leo Varadkar expressed their discomfort with the news and it was revealed Irish official had been briefing their counterparts in the UAE, where Kinahan lives, about his criminal past.
One of the most vocal politicians was Fine Gael TD Neal Richmond who called the news “an extremely welcome development but far from the end of this saga.”
“We need to have full clarity that Daniel Kinahan will have no involvement at all in this fight and that real efforts are being made to exclude him from the world of boxing.
“Daniel Kinahan cannot continue to use boxing as a tool to rehabilitate his image and whitewash his very sinister criminal pasts as per the ruling of our special criminal court.
“We also need to see clarity from MTK of what exact role Daniel Kinahan has with them. It’s time other boxers like Billy Joe Saunders dropped Daniel Kinahan and distanced themselves from him.
“We have seen our brave journalists lead the charge in exposing Daniel Kinahan for who he is, there is much more work to be done though.”
The crime boss will play no role in negotiating future bouts, according to promoter
Heavyweight boxing champion Tyson Fury has reportedly dropped Daniel Kinahan as his negotiator in the midst of mounting criticism of the Irish drug smuggler’s involvement in professional boxing.
Kinahan, who is believed to control a international criminal organisation worth around €1 billion has acted as an advisor to the British boxer for the last three years and has been instrumental in brokering a two fight deal with rival Anthony Joshua, one of the most anticipated bouts in boxing history.
If confirmed, the development is yet another blow to Kinahan’s recent efforts to whitewash his reputation on the international stage and distance himself from court findings in Ireland that he is a major figure in a gang feud which has caused 18 deaths.
Last week, KHK, a company owned by a Bahraini prince cut ties with Kinahan, a month after hiring him as an advisor to much publicity. Citing its “integrity and deep-rooted principles in the sports industry”, KHK said it “has discontinued engagement with Daniel Kinahan and he is no longer an adviser to KHK Sports”.
The parting of Fury and Kinahan was reported in the Daily Telegraph newspaper.
Fury’s boxing prompter Bob Arum told the newspaper he had discussed the matter with the boxer and they decided Arum and his company Top Rank will handle the negotiations for forthcoming fights.
“Over the weekend I’ve had a lot of conversations with Tyson Fury and what we both decided is that myself, Top Rank and Fury will do all negotiations for fights in the future.
“Whether it’s for Joshua or Wilder or anybody else. We’ve informed Eddie Hearn about that. He knows where to go for the negotiations. Tyson and I have had long negotiations about it. That’s the way it’s going to be.”
“This will eliminate a lot of confusion,” added Arum. “We’ve talked with Dan [Kinahan], who Tyson and I both love and admire and respect, and he understands that it’s best the negotiations on Tyson’s side be handled that way. Both Tyson and I have each discussed this with Dan and he is amenable and satisfied and wished us luck. He only wants the best for Tyson Fury."
Two weeks ago Fury thanked and effusively praised Kinahan for his role in arranging the fight, leading to a media and political backlash. Several Irish politicians, including Taoiseach Leo Varadkar expressed their discomfort with the news and it was revealed Irish official had been briefing their counterparts in the UAE, where Kinahan lives, about his criminal past.
One of the most vocal politicians was Fine Gael TD Neal Richmond who called the news “an extremely welcome development but far from the end of this saga.”
“We need to have full clarity that Daniel Kinahan will have no involvement at all in this fight and that real efforts are being made to exclude him from the world of boxing.
“Daniel Kinahan cannot continue to use boxing as a tool to rehabilitate his image and whitewash his very sinister criminal pasts as per the ruling of our special criminal court.
“We also need to see clarity from MTK of what exact role Daniel Kinahan has with them. It’s time other boxers like Billy Joe Saunders dropped Daniel Kinahan and distanced themselves from him.
“We have seen our brave journalists lead the charge in exposing Daniel Kinahan for who he is, there is much more work to be done though.”
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Joshua-Pulev Targeted For November, Fury Unification Talks Continue
Eddie Hearn believes he may be able to stage Anthony Joshua’s world heavyweight title defence against Kubrat Pulev in front of a decent-sized crowd in November.
Hearn says he is hopeful that he could be able to stage the fight at the O2 Arena, London, where he won his first world title from Charles Martin in 2016 or Manchester Arena, where he made his second title defence later that same year.
Even if social distancing measures are still in place, he hopes a crowd of around 5,000-10,000 could be allowed in the 20,000-capacity venues. And such a crowd could be doubled if it was staged at the Principality Stadium, Cardiff, which has a normal capacity of more than 70,000.
“I spoke to Bob Arum [who promotes Pulev] last night and November is the absolute focus for Pulev against Joshua,” Hearn said.
“The way things have moved in the last few weeks here, I’m really confident we can get a crowd here for Joshua against Pulev.”
Hearn has been looking at the possibility of staging the fight in front of a VIPs-only crowd of around 1,000 at the Royal Albert Hall paying four-figure ticket prices. The fight had initially been scheduled for the 60,000-capacity Tottenham Hotspur Stadium last weekend before the coronavirus lockdown put paid to that.
No sporting events at the moment are allowing spectators, although with lockdown measures easing, Hearn says he is hopeful that crowds will come back in some form in September.
“If we’re not allowed the Principality Stadium, we’ll happily go to Manchester Arena or The O2. It would be amazing to see Josh fight back there.
“I’m confident and we’re starting to talk to venues that aren’t open yet about the possibility of opening those venues up should they be allowed.”
Hearn also said that he expected talks for a Joshua-Tyson Fury fight to take a step forward soon, with Arum having taken over responsibility for negotiating the side of the WBC heavyweight champion from Daniel Kinahan, whose alleged connections to an organised crime group led to questions being asked in the Irish parliament.
“[Arum] is in charge of everything and that’s all right with me,” Hearn said.
“We had a really good chat last night, talking about Joshua-Fury, talking about the fact that, 'yes we know we’ve agreed the money and how the split’s going to work'. Now we need to move forward, particularly on where that fight will be staged, when it will be staged.
“Over the next month or so we’ll be putting the paperwork together for that and finalising it for 2021.”
Eddie Hearn believes he may be able to stage Anthony Joshua’s world heavyweight title defence against Kubrat Pulev in front of a decent-sized crowd in November.
Hearn says he is hopeful that he could be able to stage the fight at the O2 Arena, London, where he won his first world title from Charles Martin in 2016 or Manchester Arena, where he made his second title defence later that same year.
Even if social distancing measures are still in place, he hopes a crowd of around 5,000-10,000 could be allowed in the 20,000-capacity venues. And such a crowd could be doubled if it was staged at the Principality Stadium, Cardiff, which has a normal capacity of more than 70,000.
“I spoke to Bob Arum [who promotes Pulev] last night and November is the absolute focus for Pulev against Joshua,” Hearn said.
“The way things have moved in the last few weeks here, I’m really confident we can get a crowd here for Joshua against Pulev.”
Hearn has been looking at the possibility of staging the fight in front of a VIPs-only crowd of around 1,000 at the Royal Albert Hall paying four-figure ticket prices. The fight had initially been scheduled for the 60,000-capacity Tottenham Hotspur Stadium last weekend before the coronavirus lockdown put paid to that.
No sporting events at the moment are allowing spectators, although with lockdown measures easing, Hearn says he is hopeful that crowds will come back in some form in September.
“If we’re not allowed the Principality Stadium, we’ll happily go to Manchester Arena or The O2. It would be amazing to see Josh fight back there.
“I’m confident and we’re starting to talk to venues that aren’t open yet about the possibility of opening those venues up should they be allowed.”
Hearn also said that he expected talks for a Joshua-Tyson Fury fight to take a step forward soon, with Arum having taken over responsibility for negotiating the side of the WBC heavyweight champion from Daniel Kinahan, whose alleged connections to an organised crime group led to questions being asked in the Irish parliament.
“[Arum] is in charge of everything and that’s all right with me,” Hearn said.
“We had a really good chat last night, talking about Joshua-Fury, talking about the fact that, 'yes we know we’ve agreed the money and how the split’s going to work'. Now we need to move forward, particularly on where that fight will be staged, when it will be staged.
“Over the next month or so we’ll be putting the paperwork together for that and finalising it for 2021.”
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Whyte Rejects Idea of Step-Aside Deal To Allow Fury-Joshua
Heavyweight contender Dillian Whyte has rejected the idea of a taking a step-aside deal to allow a full division unification between world champion Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua.
Whyte is the mandatory challenger to Fury's WBC heavyweight title.
Pursuant to a WBC order from 2019, Whyte has to receive his mandatory shot by February 2021.
Whyte returns on August 22 in Brentwood, against former WBA champion Alexander Povetkin.
Fury has to take part in a trilogy fight with Deontay Wilder on December 19, with Joshua defending his WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO world titles against mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev in the coming months.
The teams behind Fury and Joshua have had ongoing discussions to face each other in 2021, as part of a two-fight series. Some of the financial particulars have already been agreed upon.
But if the champions win their bouts and intend to move forward with a planned bout - Whyte will stand his ground in getting his WBC title shot beforehand, and he won't entertain any step-aside money, as he strongly feels that he's waited long enough to get his opportunity to fight for the full title.
"Nah, there's to be no step-aside. I’ve waited long enough," Whyte told The Telegraph.
"I’m not getting any younger, I’m getting older. I just want to be world champion and reign and unify.
"So the sooner I can get the world title the sooner I can go about that. So, no I’m not looking to step aside at all."
Heavyweight contender Dillian Whyte has rejected the idea of a taking a step-aside deal to allow a full division unification between world champion Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua.
Whyte is the mandatory challenger to Fury's WBC heavyweight title.
Pursuant to a WBC order from 2019, Whyte has to receive his mandatory shot by February 2021.
Whyte returns on August 22 in Brentwood, against former WBA champion Alexander Povetkin.
Fury has to take part in a trilogy fight with Deontay Wilder on December 19, with Joshua defending his WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO world titles against mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev in the coming months.
The teams behind Fury and Joshua have had ongoing discussions to face each other in 2021, as part of a two-fight series. Some of the financial particulars have already been agreed upon.
But if the champions win their bouts and intend to move forward with a planned bout - Whyte will stand his ground in getting his WBC title shot beforehand, and he won't entertain any step-aside money, as he strongly feels that he's waited long enough to get his opportunity to fight for the full title.
"Nah, there's to be no step-aside. I’ve waited long enough," Whyte told The Telegraph.
"I’m not getting any younger, I’m getting older. I just want to be world champion and reign and unify.
"So the sooner I can get the world title the sooner I can go about that. So, no I’m not looking to step aside at all."