World Heavyweight Title Shambles!!!

[gilgamesh]

And you'd think fans that follow all of the goings on of World Titles and title organizations would en masse sh*t on a guy who was awarded a belt that was stripped of a World Champion for making a bigger fight than his mandatory.

How do you define "sh*t on a guy?" If someone was awarded a belt he didn't win, I would still watch him fight.

I don't mean the fighter himself deserves any disrespect, but he deserves to be universally acknowledged as a Contender, and nothing more.

[Tony1244]

How do you define "sh*t on a guy?" If someone was awarded a belt he didn't win, I would still watch him fight.

I don't mean the fighter himself deserves any disrespect, but he deserves to be universally acknowledged as a Contender, and nothing more.

How do you know when someone is a fake BS boxing fan? Could be a thread. Here's the start of a list.

1) Someone who is more concerned about a fake title than talent.

2) Anyone who wants more divisions, in particular anyone wanting a super HW division. To anyone who wants that, please never talk to me.

3) Anyone who thought Butterbean was a contender.

4) People who don't understand the concept of age. IE. people who took Duran or RJJ seriously towards the end of their careers.

[Paci]

Butterbean is more like a legend now then anything else.

[margaret thatcher]

I don't mean the fighter himself deserves any disrespect, but he deserves to be universally acknowledged as a Contender, and nothing more.

How do you know when someone is a fake BS boxing fan? Could be a thread. Here's the start of a list.

1) Someone who is more concerned about a fake title than talent.

2) Anyone who wants more divisions, in particular anyone wanting a super HW division. To anyone who wants that, please never talk to me.

3) Anyone who thought Butterbean was a contender.

4) People who don't understand the concept of age. IE. people who took Duran or RJJ seriously towards the end of their careers.

5) thinking a win over an unbeaten guy must be better than a win over a guy with losses

[Tony1244]

How do you know when someone is a fake BS boxing fan? Could be a thread. Here's the start of a list.

1) Someone who is more concerned about a fake title than talent.

2) Anyone who wants more divisions, in particular anyone wanting a super HW division. To anyone who wants that, please never talk to me.

3) Anyone who thought Butterbean was a contender.

4) People who don't understand the concept of age. IE. people who took Duran or RJJ seriously towards the end of their careers.

5) thinking a win over an unbeaten guy must be better than a win over a guy with losses

I never said "must." But I will now; must be a reference to the majority opinion that KOing Wilder was more impressive than decisioning Wlad in a zzz fest. But in this case, unlike wanting more divisions, it is reasonable to disagree.

[margaret thatcher]

Check your reasons though, I mean undefeated records aint worth sh!t on their own, 0 weight compared to actual quality of opposition beat, accomplishments, etc

[gilgamesh]

5) thinking a win over an unbeaten guy must be better than a win over a guy with losses

I never said "must." But I will now; must be a reference to the majority opinion that KOing Wilder was more impressive than decisioning Wlad in a zzz fest. But in this case, unlike wanting more divisions, it is reasonable to disagree.

Wladimir is the better fighter to hold a win over.

Wilder was the better win because it was 10 times as exciting of a fight.

The excitement of the fight plays a big part in how people remember it.

[Tony1244]

I never said "must." But I will now; must be a reference to the majority opinion that KOing Wilder was more impressive than decisioning Wlad in a zzz fest. But in this case, unlike wanting more divisions, it is reasonable to disagree.

Wladimir is the better fighter to hold a win over.

Wilder was the better win because it was 10 times as exciting of a fight.

The excitement of the fight plays a big part in how people remember it.

Yup. If Fury had zzz fest dec over Wilder and KO'd Wlad, I would have voted differently.

[Paci]

Lineal, then claimts who go from 1 to 4. Right now just 1 other guy right now. Unfication down the line. Fury vs Pulev!