Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

[asmund]

Sports develop over time. Look at the world cup in football from the 80s for example. Its painfully slow to watch compared to todays football.

Sure Ali is a HW-legend, same with Marciano, but they wouldnt stand a chance against the top heavyweight boxers today.

Are you serious ?

I see now that my example from football wasnt the best here

Training, nutrition etc. evolve over time. Ali was had very fast hands and footwork until he was 24-25, before his layoff.
He weighed around 210 pounds at most for his fights pre -67.

I have read his autobiography. Some strange theories there...

[oogiebe]

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Best post you've ever made!

[oogiebe]

Are you serious ?

I see now that my example from football wasnt the best here

Training, nutrition etc. evolve over time. Ali was had very fast hands and footwork until he was 24-25, before his layoff.
He weighed around 210 pounds at most for his fights pre -67.

I have read his autobiography. Some strange theories there...

We never saw true prime Ali. At 24-25 he hadn't yet had his man strength nor filled out.

[Bandog]

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Best post you've ever made!

[Tony1244]

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Best post you've ever made!

[DrDuke]

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Best post you've ever made!

[Duran1970]

8 out of 32.
25% think today's heavy s are better ?
Im losing faith in this site pretty quick.

[Tony1244]

8 out of 32.
25% think today's heavy s are better ?
Im losing faith in this site pretty quick.

Those 8 haven't watched any boxing from the 20th century.

[Ambling Alp II]

That seems like good theory.

[margaret thatcher]

They prob voted like that to trigger the touchey history bruhs, I mean sure, by far the biggest vote is for Ali in the top spot, but I guess this one must still be even more unbearable than Liston not getting 100 percent of the #1 votes

[Tony1244]

I could see Fury's size and style giving Ali a bit of trouble but eventually Ali would figure him out.

Ali beating AJ and Wilder is a no brainer.

[ValMar]

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Best post you've ever made!

10/10 !

[ValMar]

Are you serious ?

I see now that my example from football wasnt the best here

Training, nutrition etc. evolve over time. Ali was had very fast hands and footwork until he was 24-25, before his layoff.
He weighed around 210 pounds at most for his fights pre -67.

I have read his autobiography. Some strange theories there...

Angelo Dundee had claimed that the best Ali's years should had been 1967-1970. The stolen years.

[SteveO]

Angelo Dundee had claimed that the best Ali's years should had been 1967-1970. The stolen years.

So true and Ali would probably have put together another 10-12 successful title defenses in that time.

[ValMar]

Angelo Dundee had claimed that the best Ali's years should had been 1967-1970. The stolen years.

So true and Ali would probably have put together another 10-12 successful title defenses in that time.

Yes, and he would have retired on time (and healthy, too).................

[Onetimeonly]

Angelo Dundee had claimed that the best Ali's years should had been 1967-1970. The stolen years.

So true and Ali would probably have put together another 10-12 successful title defenses in that time.

He still would have lost to Frazier.

[Bard of Boxrec]

I guess EO finally found out that brevity is the soul of wit

[Winter king]

8 out of 32.
25% think today's heavy s are better ?
Im losing faith in this site pretty quick.

Those 8 haven't watched any boxing from the 20th century.

I did watch boxing matches from the 20th century and i still think Ali is not unbeatable by todays heavies. He was very skilled but or etc Ken Norton figuered him out in his prime. Do you really have such a low opinion about todays heavies that nobody reaches the level of Ken Norton? And the thing is size does play a bigger part today because yes there were 6'6 guys before but none of them were this skilled. Also Ali couldnt use his signiture style at 90% of the matches because he would have to fight like the much smaller and shorter guy.

[Onetimeonly]

I, for one, think Norton was better than any of today's heavyweights.

[Tony1244]

Those 8 haven't watched any boxing from the 20th century.

I did watch boxing matches from the 20th century and i still think Ali is not unbeatable by todays heavies. He was very skilled but or etc Ken Norton figuered him out in his prime. Do you really have such a low opinion about todays heavies that nobody reaches the level of Ken Norton? And the thing is size does play a bigger part today because yes there were 6'6 guys before but none of them were this skilled. Also Ali couldnt use his signiture style at 90% of the matches because he would have to fight like the much smaller and shorter guy.

Norton vs Fury would be a tough call. Norton or Frazier would beat AJ easily IMO.

[oogiebe]

Not sure if today's HW"s would hold up to the level of activity that 70's guys fought at.

[SteveO]

So true and Ali would probably have put together another 10-12 successful title defenses in that time.

He still would have lost to Frazier.

I sincerely doubt that

[oogiebe]

He still would have lost to Frazier.

I sincerely doubt that

Same.

[Duran1970]

So true and Ali would probably have put together another 10-12 successful title defenses in that time.

He still would have lost to Frazier.

X2

[DrDuke]

X3

Prime Frazier would deal with Ali even without that hiatus of Ali.