Mike Tyson: Rounds Lost During "Prime"

[elmersalsa]

From 86-89 he lost 29 official rounds.,(all 3 judges)

That is not bad for a guy that lost for the first time in his 37th fight.

[Ghost Town Ghost]

From 86-89 he lost 29 official rounds.,(all 3 judges)

Thanks for looking that up. I counted roughly 104 rds in total, so roughly he lost a third of those. That's really good, but not as good as I'd thought.

[gilgamesh]

From 86-89 he lost 29 official rounds.,(all 3 judges)

I was sorta right then, although if you add in the years 90 and '91 which I was it'd easily be more like 50 or 55 rounds.

[Onetimeonly]

From 86-89 he lost 29 official rounds.,(all 3 judges)

I was sorta right then, although if you add in the years 90 and '91 which I was it'd easily be more like 50 or 55 rounds.

[bwu]

From 86-89 he lost 29 official rounds.,(all 3 judges)

Now I'm genuinely perplexed. Let me preface this by noting that while I acknowledge Tyson as an all-time great, I stopped rooting for him after the Jesse Ferguson fight. I still don't include him in my Top-10.

With that in mind, looking at his record on BoxRec for '86-'89 doesn't seem to show him losing 29 official rounds. In fact, I think it comes to only 14.

Gilgamesh was right about Tillis. He got four rounds. After that Green, Thomas and Tucker each earned two. Ribalta, Smith and Holmes get one apiece. Tubbs got the nod from one judge, with another calling their only completed round a draw. Just for the sake of argument, score it against Tyson.

I spent about ten minutes skimming the record. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the parameters. Maybe we're talking about every single time a judge counted a round against Tyson, even if the other two judges disagreed. However, that doesn't seem like it would be an official lost round. As an aside, I don't think the numbers change if you include 1985. I don't think he lost any rounds that year.

In any event, losing only 29 would be astounding enough, but what I'm seeing is even more impressive.

[gilgamesh]

From 86-89 he lost 29 official rounds.,(all 3 judges)

Now I'm genuinely perplexed. Let me preface this by noting that while I acknowledge Tyson as an all-time great, I stopped rooting for him after the Jesse Ferguson fight. I still don't include him in my Top-10.

With that in mind, looking at his record on BoxRec for '86-'89 doesn't seem to show him losing 29 official rounds. In fact, I think it comes to only 14.

Gilgamesh was right about Tillis. He got four rounds. After that Green, Thomas and Tucker each earned two. Ribalta, Smith and Holmes get one apiece. Tubbs got the nod from one judge, with another calling their only completed round a draw. Just for the sake of argument, score it against Tyson.

I spent about ten minutes skimming the record. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the parameters. Maybe we're talking about every single time a judge counted a round against Tyson, even if the other two judges disagreed. However, that doesn't seem like it would be an official lost round. As an aside, I don't think the numbers change if you include 1985. I don't think he lost any rounds that year.

In any event, losing only 29 would be astounding enough, but what I'm seeing is even more impressive.

Why'd you stop rooting for him after the Jesse Ferguson fight?

[bwu]

Well, if one really paid attention to the news at that time, you could find legitimate reports about the out-of-ring behavior and it wasn't good. I didn't like what I was hearing.

Second, and this is me being a contrarian, everybody was jumping on the bandwagon so I wanted off. There weren't that many hardcore boxing fans where I lived, so when the mainstream started noticing Tyson, everybody acted like they were experts. I, being a snotty little teenage prick, decided that I wasn't going to go along with the Johnny Come Latelys.

Finally, I thought the Ferguson ending was ridiculous. Granted, the fight needed to be stopped. But it should've been by disqualification (and I think the announcers even called it such when the fight was first ended). It was obvious that they didn't want Mike's knockout streak to end and they bent backward to call it a TKO. That just didn't set right with me.

Ironically, the streak was over two fights and less than three months later anyway.

[Onetimeonly]

From 86-89 he lost 29 official rounds.,(all 3 judges)

Now I'm genuinely perplexed. Let me preface this by noting that while I acknowledge Tyson as an all-time great, I stopped rooting for him after the Jesse Ferguson fight. I still don't include him in my Top-10.

With that in mind, looking at his record on BoxRec for '86-'89 doesn't seem to show him losing 29 official rounds. In fact, I think it comes to only 14.

Gilgamesh was right about Tillis. He got four rounds. After that Green, Thomas and Tucker each earned two. Ribalta, Smith and Holmes get one apiece. Tubbs got the nod from one judge, with another calling their only completed round a draw. Just for the sake of argument, score it against Tyson.

I spent about ten minutes skimming the record. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the parameters. Maybe we're talking about every single time a judge counted a round against Tyson, even if the other two judges disagreed. However, that doesn't seem like it would be an official lost round. As an aside, I don't think the numbers change if you include 1985. I don't think he lost any rounds that year.

In any event, losing only 29 would be astounding enough, but what I'm seeing is even more impressive.

It's from all 3 judges. He lost 10 against Tillis.

[AntonioMartin]

I scored the Tucker fight 116-112 so to me he lost 4 there.....

[IKSRTFO]

He lost a load of rounds to Douglas. And yes, that was his prime. He was only 24-25. It was not his peak but prime.

Prime and peak are two different things.

[Ambling Alp II]

Now I'm genuinely perplexed. Let me preface this by noting that while I acknowledge Tyson as an all-time great, I stopped rooting for him after the Jesse Ferguson fight. I still don't include him in my Top-10.

With that in mind, looking at his record on BoxRec for '86-'89 doesn't seem to show him losing 29 official rounds. In fact, I think it comes to only 14.

Gilgamesh was right about Tillis. He got four rounds. After that Green, Thomas and Tucker each earned two. Ribalta, Smith and Holmes get one apiece. Tubbs got the nod from one judge, with another calling their only completed round a draw. Just for the sake of argument, score it against Tyson.

I spent about ten minutes skimming the record. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the parameters. Maybe we're talking about every single time a judge counted a round against Tyson, even if the other two judges disagreed. However, that doesn't seem like it would be an official lost round. As an aside, I don't think the numbers change if you include 1985. I don't think he lost any rounds that year.

In any event, losing only 29 would be astounding enough, but what I'm seeing is even more impressive.

It's from all 3 judges. He lost 10 against Tillis.

To be fair, that is a little deceiving then. He didn't really lose 10 rounds in the Tillis fight or 29 during the 1985-1989 time period.

[Onetimeonly]

It's from all 3 judges. He lost 10 against Tillis.

To be fair, that is a little deceiving then. He didn't really lose 10 rounds in the Tillis fight or 29 during the 1985-1989 time period.

I just answered a question.