Boxing myths
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Also Dempsey having plaster of paris wraps vs Willard.
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Tyson Fury schooled Wladimir Klitschko. Or that he even won clearly.
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handsofstone
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Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑01 Jul 2020, 09:31 Contrary to popular belief, Tony Bellew’s nickname isn’t actually a reference to the Manchester Arena bombing after an Ariana Grande concert.
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Railway spike, if you read pacheco’s book.
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Furys gloves against wilder
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A year or so ago I got fed up with the lies about that fight and had to go and make sure I wasn’t misremembering. I don’t know why on earth I did, but I watched it again. 115-113 is fair I think and 116-112 would be ok. Someone on this forum always posts that after the final bell, Wlad was favourite on in-play betting.
It was dire though, I think Martin vs Glazkov was worse but it’s bottom 3. They put it on the Sly Sports YouTube channel during lockdown next to Inoue Donaire and Froch Groves for fornicate sake
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It was an awful fight, but Haye - Valuev has got to be even worse. Haye won throwing 12 shots a round, less than half the punches that Fury threw (and about 100 less than Klitschko did). Valuev lumbered forward missing with arm punches all night.
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It was said that in order to get a draw against the home fighter in Italy or Germany you needed to knock him out.
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I could imagine that being true I remember seeing a clip from years ago of some fight in Italy where the home fighter got KO'd and it took the ref about a minute to count to 10.
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margaret thatcher
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Haye - Valuev and Fury-Chis 2 were both worse than Fury-Wlad, there is a bit of a tendency to exaggerate how bad every wlad fight was
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jamesmcdonnell
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Probably the worst heavyweight title fight ever.
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TheLeprechaun
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He really shouldn't have got away with that. I know it was down to his sheer ineptitude but still offensive.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑01 Jul 2020, 09:31 Contrary to popular belief, Tony Bellew’s nickname isn’t actually a reference to the Manchester Arena bombing after an Ariana Grande concert.
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margaret thatcher
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I mean, tbf, surely everyone who saw Bellew's trunks with bomber on them must've thought he was paying tribute to an Islamist terrorist suicide bombing child killer, surely it was on all our minds and it wasn't Smith who brought it out of nowhere
Remember, Tony did have a beard too, so the connection was there
Remember, Tony did have a beard too, so the connection was there
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The night Haye won the world title and lost all his credibility. After telling anyone who'd listen he was totally going to flatten the giant, he throws four shots a minute and runs almost every second.
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John Ruiz' fights for the title are among the worst HW championship bouts and worse than the mentioned for sure.
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Terminator666
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Alvarez produced a positive test by eating contaminated beef
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jamesmcdonnell
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I invited loads of people round to watch it on a projector, I literally apologised to people after the fight.
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margaret thatcher
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Kev Mitchell (not the cock feeder) thought it was a 12-0 Haye masterclass, he really had a boner for Haye
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Don’t understand what people think Haye should’ve/could’ve done differently against Valuev, it was quite an unbelievable job he had on his hands unlike anything anyone had seen before especially since he was just a plumped up cruiser, I thought Haye did what was necessary and did it well, I for one couldn’t take my eyes off the screen.
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margaret thatcher
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Unbelievable job? Chagaev did it better tbh and he was even shorter!
I didn't think there was the need to be so tentative. Valuev was huge but not a big puncher at all and fairly easy to hit. Haye could've won much more convinving if he'd let his hands go more and not been so flighty. The last round showed he could hurt him too, could've perhaps scored a highlight reel timber but instead averaged like 10 punches and 20 laps a round and never put a clear stamp on it. Not sure what is so great about that.
I didn't think there was the need to be so tentative. Valuev was huge but not a big puncher at all and fairly easy to hit. Haye could've won much more convinving if he'd let his hands go more and not been so flighty. The last round showed he could hurt him too, could've perhaps scored a highlight reel timber but instead averaged like 10 punches and 20 laps a round and never put a clear stamp on it. Not sure what is so great about that.
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Don’t blame him at all, Haye didn’t exactly have a granite chin, it was a very tough job for him and he did what was needed he’s not bloody superman!margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Jul 2020, 17:39 Unbelievable job? Chagaev did it better tbh
I didn't think there was the need to be so tentative. Valuev was huge but not a big puncher at all and fairly easy to hit. Haye could've won much more convinving if he'd let his hands go more and not been so flighty.
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margaret thatcher
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Sure, he did the minimum to win an md, not sure what's so unbelievable or great about that. He could've won a lot more convincingly , he had it in him
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polecateddy
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Valuev was passed his peak and riddled with chronic injuries, which is why he retired immediately.
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That Arturo Gatti is worth HOF. RIP tho.