Bettr Fighter Duran or Pacquaio

[world ranked]

Both are ATG's. Pretty simple who's the better fighter

[margaret thatcher]

Berto

[Onetimeonly]

Duran

[margaret thatcher]

Duran basically had everything, possibly the pinnacle of the 'complete fighter'

Pac is obviously great as well but defo had more areas where he wasnt as developed, and even in pac's strongest areas Berto was plenty strong too

[Enlightened-One]

Duran.

[The Gratest]

This one's simple.

Duran lost to Joppy, who lost to Trinidad, who lost to Wright, who lost to Williams, who lost to Quintana, who lost to Cotto, who lost to Manny Pac.

[Boxtune]

Another post for boxing fans who is on the edge of life ... LOL

[world ranked]

Another post for boxing fans who is on the edge of life ... LOL

Nah not really this post was merely made because I thought there's a discussion that Duran and Pacquaio as fighters wasn't that far off. But from the votes I was slearly wrong and Duran is considered to be the fighter no edge of life just needed that clear up.

[margaret thatcher]

Another post for boxing fans who is on the edge of life ... LOL

Nah not really this post was merely made because I thought there's a discussion that Duran and Pacquaio as fighters wasn't that far off. But from the votes I was slearly wrong and Duran is considered to be the fighter no edge of life just needed that clear up.

f@ck it bruh, just cause people say it don't make it so, go with your own view

[world ranked]

Nah not really this post was merely made because I thought there's a discussion that Duran and Pacquaio as fighters wasn't that far off. But from the votes I was clearly wrong and Duran is considered to be the fighter no edge of life just needed that clear up.

f@ck it bruh, just cause people say it don't make it so, go with your own view

My only view was it wasn't a slam dunk for Duran. My opinion didn't matter I though public opinion was more split that's all.

[NateJR]

I think it's close, but it's clear Duran was superior IMO.

[gilgamesh]

Let's go category by category.

Speed - Pacquiao
Power - Duran
Chin - I'd say this is pretty much even. Both can be knocked out, but neither is glass jawed either.
Defense - Duran
Combinations - Pacquiao
Inside skills - Duran
Foot movement - Pacquiao

So they each have their areas of superiority. What puts Duran over the top for me, is he just has a more complete arsenal, and was able to do a little bit of everything. I'd say he was the better body puncher, and he had the better jab and uppercuts and just an all around more refined game.

Pacquiao I think was a more explosive athlete. Duran was a better fighter.

[Enlightened-One]

Chin - I'd say this is pretty much even. Both can be knocked out, but neither is glass jawed either.

Roberto Duran made his pro debut at 119lbs, faced men as big as 174lbs and the only time he was legitimately KO’d was against Thomas Hearns at 154lbs, with the Hitman classed amongst the top-twenty biggest punchers in history.

The Panamanian legend competed in thirty bouts weighing more than 160lbs (i.e. five times at light-heavy, with the other twenty-five at super-middleweight).

He also fought 119 times in total, during a career spanning thirty years, retiring at the age of fifty.

And no, the Joppy stoppage defeat doesn’t count, since Duran was 47½ years of age and completely shot.

Manny Pacquiao made his pro debut weighing 106lbs, was KO’d by two 112lbs flyweights and also starched by Juan Manuel Marquez at 147lbs, with the Mexican not considered a particularly big puncher.

I believe the Filipino was also floored by the likes of Yeshmagambetov, Hussein, Sangsurat, Torrecampo, Barrera etc.

The 150lbs weight-drained Antonio Margarito was Manny’s biggest opponent and all the fighters he’s faced over the last decade were welterweights.

So that’s the reason why I feel Duran had a better chin than Pacquiao.

[world ranked]

Chin - I'd say this is pretty much even. Both can be knocked out, but neither is glass jawed either.

Roberto Duran made his pro debut at 119lbs, faced men as big as 174lbs and the only time he was legitimately KO’d was against Thomas Hearns at 154lbs, with the Hitman classed amongst the top-twenty biggest punchers in history.

The Panamanian legend competed in thirty bouts weighing more than 160lbs (i.e. five times at light-heavy, with the other twenty-five at super-middleweight).

He also fought 119 times in total, during a career spanning thirty years, retiring at the age of fifty.

And no, the Joppy stoppage defeat doesn’t count, since Duran was 47½ years of age and completely shot.

Manny Pacquiao made his pro debut weighing 106lbs, was KO’d by two 112lbs flyweights and also starched by Juan Manuel Marquez at 147lbs, with the Mexican not considered a particularly big puncher.

I believe the Filipino was also floored by the likes of Yeshmagambetov, Hussein, Sangsurat, Torrecampo, Barrera etc.

The 150lbs weight-drained Antonio Margarito was Manny’s biggest opponent and all the fighters he’s faced over the last decade were welterweights.

So that’s the reason why I feel Duran had a better chin than Pacquiao.

I didn't who had the better was a debatable point.

[Enlightened-One]

I didn't who had the better was a debatable point.

I'm not sure what you mean.

I just think that Duran had a far better chin than Pacquiao. I can't see any logical reason for anyone to disagree with this point. They're not even similar.

The Filipino has been repeatedly decked and KO’d more frequently and by much smaller opponents than Duran did.

[brilo33]

i think duran would of beat pac man more times if they fought each other,

[world ranked]

I didn't who had the better was a debatable point.

I'm not sure what you mean.

I just think that Duran had a far better chin than Pacquiao. I can't see any logical reason for anyone to disagree with this point. They're not even similar.

The Filipino has been repeatedly decked and KO’d more frequently and by much smaller opponents than Duran did.

No I agree with you. I thought it was common knowledge Duran had the better chin.

[gilgamesh]

Chin - I'd say this is pretty much even. Both can be knocked out, but neither is glass jawed either.

Roberto Duran made his pro debut at 119lbs, faced men as big as 174lbs and the only time he was legitimately KO’d was against Thomas Hearns at 154lbs, with the Hitman classed amongst the top-twenty biggest punchers in history.

The Panamanian legend competed in thirty bouts weighing more than 160lbs (i.e. five times at light-heavy, with the other twenty-five at super-middleweight).

He also fought 119 times in total, during a career spanning thirty years, retiring at the age of fifty.

And no, the Joppy stoppage defeat doesn’t count, since Duran was 47½ years of age and completely shot.

Manny Pacquiao made his pro debut weighing 106lbs, was KO’d by two 112lbs flyweights and also starched by Juan Manuel Marquez at 147lbs, with the Mexican not considered a particularly big puncher.

I believe the Filipino was also floored by the likes of Yeshmagambetov, Hussein, Sangsurat, Torrecampo, Barrera etc.

The 150lbs weight-drained Antonio Margarito was Manny’s biggest opponent and all the fighters he’s faced over the last decade were welterweights.

So that’s the reason why I feel Duran had a better chin than Pacquiao.

Yeah I'll give it to you that Duran is probably the tougher of the two. Pac certainly isn't weak chinned by any means though.

I don't think the KO's early in his career are exactly a sign of a bad chin so much as they're an indication of how vastly he improved his all around game over the years. He was a lot more raw, and predictable of a fighter back then, as the years went on his skill increased exponentially.

But yeah Duran being the tougher of the two I can't disagree with. I'm quite sure Hearns would've sparked Pac in similar fashion.

[margaret thatcher]

Manny's chin was wonky back in the day, dont know if it was down to weight cutting or something, he nearly got KO'd by a jab and also pretty badly hurt and floored by another guy with a jab, these were not great opponents either

[gilgamesh]

Manny's chin was wonky back in the day, dont know if it was down to weight cutting or something, he nearly got KO'd by a jab and also pretty badly hurt and floored by another guy with a jab, these were not great opponents either

The weight cutting probably didn't help. Those things combined with just his general lesser skill lead to him getting tagged by more big shots back then.

[Bujia]

Pac was a malnourished teen when he started fighting as a Flyweight. Towards the end of his time there, he'd filled out noticeably from good eating and natural growth and was killing himself to continue making weight.

Look at the size disparity between he and Sasakul in his title winning effort. That's why he didn't last long as a champ and when he moved up shortly after, he skipped right past Super Fly AND Bantam to fight at Super Bantam. A 10 pound increase in 3 months. And he was huge there, too.

By the time he hit Featherweight he was more or less full grown and entering his prime as a man. Anything prior to that I wouldn't hold against him too much in the chin department. He proved to have a very solid beard throughout his prime. Not quite Duran level, but very solid.

[Nile4000]

Roberto Duran.

[Grant]

What a great question, it's almost criminal to have to choose but Roberto for me, because of the era he was in and the standard of fighters he went up against. I always like the guys who go up and don't give a crap about giving away one or two pounds or reach advantage. They are the ones always being tested.