Joe Joyce stripped of WBA Gold title

[danundisputed]

Hi
Just seen the WBA Rankings and discovered that Robert Helenius is the new WBA Gold Champion.
How comes?
Was Joyce stripped of the WBA Gold title, when and why? Couldn't find any information online, please explain.
Helenius is now WBA Gold champ according to the rankings, I think his victory over Kownacki elevated him to Gold, correct.
Please bring some light into this strange title mess. Thx

[Enlightened-One]

The WBA's GOLD belt was vacant and Joyce wasn't rated in March's ratings and this was discussed on a separate thread, because no one understood why this was the case. As far as I'm concerned, there was no communication made by the WBA or Joe Joyce to explain what had happened.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Joyce must be devastated

[Enlightened-One]

Fres Oquendo is still rated by the WBA though.

[tiny_acres]

Fres Oquendo is still rated by the WBA though.

Fres will be listed in their ratings 2 years after his death

[bigjack]

Fres Oquendo is still rated by the WBA though.

Fres will be listed in their ratings 2 years after his death

there are loads of boxers who are described as 'inactive' on here probably because they are not alive

[bigjack]

Fres Oquendo is still rated by the WBA though.

Jesus he is,6 years after his last fight

[Ruthless-RKO]

Hi
Just seen the WBA Rankings and discovered that Robert Helenius is the new WBA Gold Champion.
How comes?
Was Joyce stripped of the WBA Gold title, when and why? Couldn't find any information online, please explain.
Helenius is now WBA Gold champ according to the rankings, I think his victory over Kownacki elevated him to Gold, correct.
Please bring some light into this strange title mess. Thx

Old news this.. God knows why it happened.. But when Helenius beat Kownacki, that fight was a WBA heavyweight title eliminator.. A few days after the fight, hr was declared the WBA Gold champion.

[Enlightened-One]

Fres Oquendo is still rated by the WBA though.

Jesus he is,6 years after his last fight

Fres Oquendo is 47½ years of age and his most recent victory came 6½ years ago.

The WBA created this situation, due to their handling of the situations related to RUSADA, Ruslan Chagaev, Jarrell Miller, Manuel Charr, Trevor Bryan, Lucas Browne, Shannon Briggs etc.

The thing is… the Big O’s previous five victories leading up to his most recent bout, which was the highly-controversial Chagaev defeat, came against journeyman that had (on average) tasted defeat in 39% of their contests (i.e. losing on average 17 bouts each), which is very dire!

What’s even more bizarre, is the fact that Fres Oquendo has never defeated a top-ten world-rated heavyweight opponent during a career spanning 23½ years, but yet he’s turned down world title shots and continues to be ranked by the WBA.

[SteveO]

Fres Oquendo is 47½ years of age and his most recent victory came 6½ years ago.

Surely the WBA could drop him from their rankings now due to his prolonged inactivity and refusal to participate in title fights offered to him.
He may not even qualify for a boxing license now!

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

He refused a fight with miller because of drug testing concerns... id say history proved that a smart move wouldn't you?

[margaret thatcher]

He refused a fight with miller because of drug testing concerns... id say history proved that a smart move wouldn't you?

Unless he never actually fights again

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Lol he has no intention of fighting. Hes actively suing them trying for lawsuit settlement money

[margaret thatcher]

dude could end up with nothing out of it

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

He has 325k in escrow for the charr fight that was canceled due to drug cheat charr testing positive. He sued charr and the wba saying he should get that money and be declared champ

He has a VERY good chance at getting that money or at least a settlement. Thats his game here. Wba cant drop him of they do it gives validity to his suit claims of damages

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

i just searched for an update:

This is more complicated than i thought

Oquendo is in bankruptcy and filed suit to collect that escrow money to pay debt

He filed a suit against his management, his promoter, and the german promoter to collect the escrow money

This is still being litigated as of april this year

His action against wba is a separate matter

[Perseus]

WBA gold????

How many titles does the WBA have?

Is it possible to list all the WBA titles without bogging down the server?

[margaret thatcher]

He has 325k in escrow for the charr fight that was canceled due to drug cheat charr testing positive. He sued charr and the wba saying he should get that money and be declared champ

He has a VERY good chance at getting that money or at least a settlement. Thats his game here. Wba cant drop him of they do it gives validity to his suit claims of damages

That must be 1 fat arse crow to fit 325k in

[Tony1244]

Fres Oquendo is still rated by the WBA though.

Fres will be listed in their ratings 2 years after his death

Getting stripped of something called WBA Gold is like being stripped when you're already naked.

[gilgamesh]

I had never even heard of the WBA Gold title until this thread.

[margaret thatcher]

I had never even heard of the WBA Gold title until this thread.

newb

[gilgamesh]

I had never even heard of the WBA Gold title until this thread.

newb

Ouch you got me

[danundisputed]

Thanks for the comments.
Does anybody have a photo of Helenius with the WBA Gold belt?
If so, please post a link, thx
I've seen after the Kownacki fight they gave him a WBA medal.

[margaret thatcher]

I read about him getting named gold champ like a month after he beat Kow, not right after beating him, not sure he ever had the wba gold belt with him

[margaret thatcher]

Btw what is this flag he has here? Does he not consider himself to be a finnish