Venues & Clubs of the Past

Alex · Post by **Alex** » 10 Apr 2005, 14:38

Some 1920's British Venues -

National Sporting Club (N.S.C.), 43 King Street, Covent Garden, London, WC2

Premierland, Back Church Lane, Commercial Road, Stepney, London, E1.

Stadium Club, 85 High Holborn, London, WC1.

Manor Hall, Kenmure Road, Mare Street, Hackney, London, E8.

Canning Town Central Hall, Barking Road, Canning Town, London, E16.

Drill Hall, Tredegar Road, Bow, London, E3.

Paddington Baths, Queen's Road, Paddington, London, W2. (Promotor: Fred Austin).

Drill Hall, Pound Lane, Willesden, London, NW10.

Palace Pavilion, Whitton Road, Hounslow, Middlesex.

Stadium, Pudsey Street, Liverpool. (Promotor in 1920 and 30s: Johnny Best)

White City Ballroom, Old Trafford, Manchester.

St. George's Market, May Street, Belfast, Northern Ireland.

Marathon Boxing Stadium, Frank Street, Preston. (Promoter: Frank Conway).

Palais de Danse Athletic Club, New Street, West Bromwich.

West Bromwich Rink Athletic Club, Paradise Street, West Bromwich.

Pavilion, Sarum Hill, Basingstoke.

Leeds National Sporting Club, Templar Street, Leeds.

Ilford Skating Rink, High Road, Ilford, Essex.

Blackpool Football Ground, Bloomfield Road, Blackpool.

Alex · Post by **Alex** » 10 Apr 2005, 14:47

Ric wrote:I plan to "scavenge" the material posted in this sticky thread, and put the data into BoxRec Encyclopedia pages. The BoxRec 'Pedia has a "Venues & Clubs" category. So, as a moderator here, I plan to delete this sticky topic in the near future, as being unnecessary now--unless I hear objections before then.

Just a suggestion Ric, but with the vast number of fight venues that were around in the old days, it might be an idea to keep this thread going, so contributors can add the venue details as and when they find them.

Maybe you could delete the various posts, as the venues are added to the Encyclopedia and put a note on here asking people to check the Encyclopedia first before posting venue details on this thread - so that time is not wasted on venues that are already listed.

robert.snell1 · Post by **robert.snell1** » 19 May 2005, 17:22

The Merseyside and Wirral Ex Boxers site i am working on will provide details and some photos of various venues. A book is also to be produced with regard to this.

I believe I may also be able to provide some interior photos of Liverpool stadium

will keep you posted

nazfan · Post by **nazfan** » 27 Jun 2005, 23:21

york hall in bethnal green has had plenty of domestic action over many years. some legends have fought there. i think the krays fought there.

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 16 Jul 2005, 04:28

In some boxrec records fighters are listed as having fought at the London Casino, as well as the Queensbury Club in Soho, London. These were actually the same venue. See this link:

http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/prince-edward-theatre.php (I'll copy/paste the info below in case the website disappears)

What should the catch-all be? "Queensbury Club, London Casino, Soho, London"?

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Prince Edward Theatre

Address: Old Compton Street, London, W1D 4HS

Designed by Edward Stone and with a capacity of more than sixteen hundred- the Prince Edward Theatre was opened in April 1930. The theatre was originally designed to be a multi purpose venue- hosting musicals, revue and movies. The building was chosen as the site for the London Casino which opened in 1936. The building was then converted to a cabaret restaurant- and gamblers and diners alike enjoyed spectacular stage shows.

During WWII the theatre became a club for servicemen and was renamed ‘The Queensbury All Services Club.’ After the war some of the musicals and revue shows returned to the Prince Edward- they stayed until to theatre was converted again in 1954 the show ‘Cinerama’ movies.

The Prince Edward Theatre recalled its name and former purpose in 1978 when the celebrated musical ‘Evita’ began an eight year run. Since then the Prince Edward has staged various musicals including ‘Chess’, ‘Anything Goes’ and ‘Some Like it Hot.’ The theatre underwent a massive refurbishment in 1992 and now boasts air conditioning, disabled access and a new sound system. There can be few Theatre venues in London that can claim such a varied and illustrious history.

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 16 Jul 2005, 11:33

Thanks, Manos. It has been added to the Wikipedia venues category:
http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/P ... rd_Theatre

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 16 Jul 2005, 12:56

Nice one, Ric. You do some awesome work on this site.

sharkeysboy · Post by **sharkeysboy** » 24 Aug 2005, 11:56

Perhaps I just missed it but shouldn't Shakey's Athletic Club be listed as a New York venue. I know of at least two notable fights held there - Gene Tunney's debut and Jim Barry's upset win over Sam Langford (an upset because Sam knocked Barry out in a couple of other fights.) Also, this is the settings for at least two of George Bellows famous paintings - "A Stag at Sharkeys" and "Both Members of the Club." The black fighter in "Both Members of the Club" is supposed to be none other than Joe Gans himself. Sharkey's was a real part of the New York fight scene for decades despite it being decribed in one source as a real dive and a dangerous fire trap. If Sharkey's is listed disregard this email and please direct me to where I can find it. If it's not listed, it should be.

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 17 Oct 2005, 19:04

is joe jeanettes gym still around? has it been renamed or replaced by another gym? anyone know

squeaky · Post by **squeaky** » 03 Nov 2005, 23:57

In Australia,

Brisbane, Festival Hall

Sydney, Sydney Stadium and Horden Pavilion

Melbourne, Melbourne Town Hall and Kooyong Stadium

muray · Post by **muray** » 04 Nov 2005, 20:38

Omitted from thew New York list was Canarsie Stadium in Brooklyn

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 04 Nov 2005, 20:58

muray wrote:Omitted from thew New York list was Canarsie Stadium in Brooklyn

Do you know the street address, and the years it was used as a boxing venue?

cultus · Post by **cultus** » 23 Jan 2006, 00:59

where could I get Dempsey's bouts or clips. Never seen him fight.

anything? I would be very thankfull

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 07 May 2006, 23:49

Got on this subject from another thread and I began wondering about the White City in West London. I've seen the capacity for the White City listed as high as 150.000 and it used to be a popular boxing venue. Does anyone know what some of the top attendence figures were here ? I have to believe they would have been some of the largest in the history of Great Britain.

jimglen · Post by **jimglen** » 25 Jun 2006, 06:36

Jock McAvoy vs Len Harvey made the Guiness Book of Records and stood for a very long time (if not still), I believe it was for attendance at a British show and/or first televised event (?).

I seem, however to remember the first televised boxing match was Eric Boon's title fight (?).

Mills vs Woodcock, were big sellers and Savold vs Woodcock at the Whitecity Stadium.

Goldthorpe · Post by **Goldthorpe** » 28 Dec 2006, 23:58

Some other New York venues, unsure of the locations:
Woodhaven (Queens) SC
Auditorium, Freeport, Long Island
Broadway Exhibition Assoc. NYC
Arena, Rockaway Beach
Palace Of Joy, Coney Island
Olympia A.C. NYC

Goldthorpe · Post by **Goldthorpe** » 29 Dec 2006, 13:56

I haven't been able to find it here, maybe it doesn't exist, a thread that has scanned photos of the venues. For example I have a scan of an ad showing the Cleveland Arena that I'd like to post somewhere. Anyone? Thanks.

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 29 Dec 2006, 18:39

Goldthorpe wrote:I haven't been able to find it here, maybe it doesn't exist, a thread that has scanned photos of the venues. For example I have a scan of an ad showing the Cleveland Arena that I'd like to post somewhere. Anyone? Thanks.

Those scans should go over to the BoxRec wikipedia.
http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/C ... _%26_Clubs

icejack · Post by **icejack** » 13 Mar 2007, 14:38

fantastic thread ,where can we see photos of these places ?

icejack · Post by **icejack** » 13 Mar 2007, 14:42

Seamus wrote:Got on this subject from another thread and I began wondering about the White City in West London. I've seen the capacity for the White City listed as high as 150.000 and it used to be a popular boxing venue. Does anyone know what some of the top attendence figures were here ? I have to believe they would have been some of the largest in the history of Great Britain.

Went there dog racing in the eigties ,lovely big old stadium.Broke my heart when they pulled it down,Cockell fought Valdes there in the fifties. Bloody big place with wooden stalls

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 13 Mar 2007, 19:59

icejack wrote:fantastic thread ,where can we see photos of these places ?

Here: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/C ... _%26_Clubs

icejack · Post by **icejack** » 14 Mar 2007, 05:43

thanks Ric!

by the way anyone know the capacity of The Ring in blackfriars?

Cap · Post by **Cap** » 23 May 2007, 10:05

I have a couple of pictures of old arenas, where and how would I post them?

Cap

knightbox · Post by **knightbox** » 01 Aug 2007, 23:38

The Sacramento Memorial Auditorium. Bobby Chancon and Pete Ranzany used to pack this old arena, the place would rock when these guys fought there. Now fights take place at Arco Arena. I am going on the 11th to watch the Daniel Ponce De Leon vs. Rey Bautista card.

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 01 Sep 2007, 20:12

The old Sydney Stadium has already been mentioned, but deserves more cover. It was a circular corrugated iron stadium built in 1908 for the Tommy Burns -v- Jack Johnson fight, the first time a black man became World Heavyweight Champion. It later had a roof put on it and was known affectionately (or otherwise) as the "Old Tin Shed." It was on New South Head Road, Rushcutters Bay near the White City Tennis Courts and Weigall Sportsground, across New South Head Road from Rushcutters Bay Park. As well as boxing it hosted visiting Rock and Roll performers such as Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis and The Beatles in the 1950s and 1960s

A philistine State Government pulled it down in the early 1970s to build a railway that still runs at a loss.

Venues & Clubs of the Past

Re: Topic/Sticky to be Deleted

merseyside and wirral venues

york hall, dont u forget!

Sharkey's athletic club

Old Time Fight Clubs

Re: Old Time Fight Clubs

Sacramento area