Anthony Fowler & Chris Billam-Smith both won by Stoppage Friday

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Friday 7, August 2020
Matchroom Fight Camp, Brentwood, Essex, United Kingdom

cruiser
Chris Billam-Smith 10 1 0
vs
Nathan Thorley 14 0 0
Commonwealth (British Empire) Cruiser Title

super feather
Terri Harper 10 0 0
vs
Natasha Jonas 9 1 0
World Boxing Council World Female Super Feather Title
International Boxing Organization World Female Super Feather Title

super welter
Anthony Fowler 12 1 0
vs
Adam Harper 9 1 0

light
Aqib Fiaz 5 0 0
vs
Kane Baker 13 6 0

feather
Ivan 'Hopey' Price 2 0 0
vs
Jonny Phillips 5 4 0



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Chris Billam-Smith 10 1 0
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Nathan Thorley 14 0 0
Commonwealth (British Empire) Cruiser Title

Chris won by brutal KO







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They did not face impressive guys but Fowler, however, looked his usual good (I am more and more convinced that Fitzgerald win against him was a fluke). CBS is striking harder than ever, though.
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JxhDel. wrote: 07 Aug 2020, 17:49 They did not face impressive guys but Fowler, however, looked his usual good (I am more and more convinced that Fitzgerald win against him was a fluke). CBS is striking harder than ever, though.
fitz has good hands and power . i thought that boy could go on further , i knew he could be a folwer, just hoped he pushes on not sure now, what you see that is so good with folwer. not being an dick, i see folwer as a tough very strong pressurse fighter if let to be , you put a boxer in with him on his leavel see what happenes
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brilo33 wrote: 07 Aug 2020, 18:00
JxhDel. wrote: 07 Aug 2020, 17:49 They did not face impressive guys but Fowler, however, looked his usual good (I am more and more convinced that Fitzgerald win against him was a fluke). CBS is striking harder than ever, though.
fitz has good hands and power . i thought that boy could go on further , i knew he could be a folwer, just hoped he pushes on not sure now, what you see that is so good with folwer. not being an dick, i see folwer as a tough very strong pressurse fighter if let to be , you put a boxer in with him on his leavel see what happenes
Not that they are both some menace for 154 top guys.
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JxhDel. wrote: 07 Aug 2020, 17:49 They did not face impressive guys but Fowler, however, looked his usual good (I am more and more convinced that Fitzgerald win against him was a fluke). CBS is striking harder than ever, though.
What makes you think it was a fluke? Fowler destroyed low level guys before the fitz fight too, nothing new, some guys just front run vs lower level opponents but then can't step up so well
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margaret thatcher wrote: 07 Aug 2020, 19:40
JxhDel. wrote: 07 Aug 2020, 17:49 They did not face impressive guys but Fowler, however, looked his usual good (I am more and more convinced that Fitzgerald win against him was a fluke). CBS is striking harder than ever, though.
What makes you think it was a fluke? Fowler destroyed low level guys before the fitz fight too, nothing new, some guys just front run vs lower level opponents but then can't step up so well
Fitz seems to have personal issue. It's possible the first he was at his best and Fowler could have been over confident. I believe to be a fluke too. I'm not sure Fitz is mentally capable to put it together like the first he fought extremely well the first time and it was still close.
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Could be, would be nice if Ant did something other than lose to Fitz and beat up a bunch of third and fourth raters, which we'd already seen him do before his last win . If he could actually pull it off stepping up we'd get a better idea and more proof that he's actually above Fitz's level. He looks strong but also limited at times, bit of plodder who could struggle with skilled quick boxers, of which Fitz has more than his other opponents even with personal issues

There are just so so so many dudes out there who shined and looked mean and beastly at 1 level but then dropped off hard at the next level or two. Fellow Brit Olympian Dave Price had his moments of this didnt he

Maybe they could make Fowler vs Sergio Garcia or something and he could prove that he's not 'that guy'. If Fowler is so good that a solid boxer like Fitz can only beat him by fluke, he shoulda have enough there to do it
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margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 21:02 Could be, would be nice if Ant did something other than lose to Fitz and beat up a bunch of third and fourth raters, which we'd already seen him do before his last win . If he could actually pull it off stepping up we'd get a better idea and more proof that he's actually above Fitz's level. He looks strong but also limited at times, bit of plodder who could struggle with skilled quick boxers, of which Fitz has more than his other opponents even with personal issues

There are just so so so many dudes out there who shined and looked mean and beastly at 1 level but then dropped off hard at the next level or two. Fellow Brit Olympian Dave Price had his moments of this didnt he

Maybe they could make Fowler vs Sergio Garcia or something and he could prove that he's not 'that guy'. If Fowler is so good that a solid boxer like Fitz can only beat him by fluke, he shoulda have enough there to do it
Yeah Fowler aint the guy. He may grab the EBU and fight for a world title but won't be top of the division.
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For a guy who lost his only fight at British level, a Euro title and world title challenge would be pretty good at this point
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margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 22:28 For a guy who lost his only fight at British level, a Euro title and world title challenge would be pretty good at this point
Well see. I think he wins the brittish title again or like Eddie said we skipping brittish level goibg for Garcia for EBU he said that after Fowler fight so he's european level chance is pretty close.
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Ya, and if they did that and he beat Garcia it would be really good for him. To just jump up to Euro level without winning at all at British, and to actually beat decent EBU champ like Garcia, would be nice for Ant. That's the type of thing that would show he brings more than the Fitz fight showed
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world ranked wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 20:59
margaret thatcher wrote: 07 Aug 2020, 19:40
JxhDel. wrote: 07 Aug 2020, 17:49 They did not face impressive guys but Fowler, however, looked his usual good (I am more and more convinced that Fitzgerald win against him was a fluke). CBS is striking harder than ever, though.
What makes you think it was a fluke? Fowler destroyed low level guys before the fitz fight too, nothing new, some guys just front run vs lower level opponents but then can't step up so well
Fitz seems to have personal issue. It's possible the first he was at his best and Fowler could have been over confident. I believe to be a fluke too. I'm not sure Fitz is mentally capable to put it together like the first he fought extremely well the first time and it was still close.
Mental issues what like 99%of the worlds population. Fitzgerald is a skilled natural boxer he creates angles controls the ring well. Will trade he was the best out trio of cheese folwer and himself. He would beat folwer 7/10
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margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 21:02 Could be, would be nice if Ant did something other than lose to Fitz and beat up a bunch of third and fourth raters, which we'd already seen him do before his last win . If he could actually pull it off stepping up we'd get a better idea and more proof that he's actually above Fitz's level. He looks strong but also limited at times, bit of plodder who could struggle with skilled quick boxers, of which Fitz has more than his other opponents even with personal issues

There are just so so so many dudes out there who shined and looked mean and beastly at 1 level but then dropped off hard at the next level or two. Fellow Brit Olympian Dave Price had his moments of this didnt he

Maybe they could make Fowler vs Sergio Garcia or something and he could prove that he's not 'that guy'. If Fowler is so good that a solid boxer like Fitz can only beat him by fluke, he shoulda have enough there to do it
Well said Maggie I agree
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margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 22:43 Ya, and if they did that and he beat Garcia it would be really good for him. To just jump up to Euro level without winning at all at British, and to actually beat decent EBU champ like Garcia, would be nice for Ant. That's the type of thing that would show he brings more than the Fitz fight showed
I know he has to prove it but anyone who has seen Fowler knows that he's better than the FItz fight.
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brilo33 wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 14:01
world ranked wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 20:59
margaret thatcher wrote: 07 Aug 2020, 19:40

What makes you think it was a fluke? Fowler destroyed low level guys before the fitz fight too, nothing new, some guys just front run vs lower level opponents but then can't step up so well
Fitz seems to have personal issue. It's possible the first he was at his best and Fowler could have been over confident. I believe to be a fluke too. I'm not sure Fitz is mentally capable to put it together like the first he fought extremely well the first time and it was still close.
Mental issues what like 99%of the worlds population. Fitzgerald is a skilled natural boxer he creates angles controls the ring well. Will trade he was the best out trio of cheese folwer and himself. He would beat folwer 7/10
I disagree. I think Fitz loses his next fight if its Cheeseman, Fowler or Metcalf I personally think the Fowler fight was fluke. If he doesn't get stripped of the brittish which is also in play.
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world ranked wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 17:04
brilo33 wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 14:01
world ranked wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 20:59

Fitz seems to have personal issue. It's possible the first he was at his best and Fowler could have been over confident. I believe to be a fluke too. I'm not sure Fitz is mentally capable to put it together like the first he fought extremely well the first time and it was still close.
Mental issues what like 99%of the worlds population. Fitzgerald is a skilled natural boxer he creates angles controls the ring well. Will trade he was the best out trio of cheese folwer and himself. He would beat folwer 7/10
I disagree. I think Fitz loses his next fight if its Cheeseman, Fowler or Metcalf I personally think the Fowler fight was fluke. If he doesn't get stripped of the brittish which is also in play.
you dont fluke 2 fights that go the distance , i said it on here before both them fights i said fitz would win, that wasnt cause i am lucky , its cause i ve just seen a lot boxing , yea off cause he could lose to them there close fights against good fighters , yea id like to medcalf and folwer , but i still think fitz is the better boxer no fluke about it, watch him box he hasnt changed just got better, but who knows now not sure he is living the life
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brilo33 wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 17:34
world ranked wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 17:04
brilo33 wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 14:01

Mental issues what like 99%of the worlds population. Fitzgerald is a skilled natural boxer he creates angles controls the ring well. Will trade he was the best out trio of cheese folwer and himself. He would beat folwer 7/10
I disagree. I think Fitz loses his next fight if its Cheeseman, Fowler or Metcalf I personally think the Fowler fight was fluke. If he doesn't get stripped of the brittish which is also in play.
you dont fluke 2 fights that go the distance , i said it on here before both them fights i said fitz would win, that wasnt cause i am lucky , its cause i ve just seen a lot boxing , yea off cause he could lose to them there close fights against good fighters , yea id like to medcalf and folwer , but i still think fitz is the better boxer no fluke about it, watch him box he hasnt changed just got better, but who knows now not sure he is living the life
He won by a small margin its not like he dominated the fight or dominated anybody of note really. We will see I dont really rate him and expect Fowler to beat him if rematch.
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world ranked wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 17:02
margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 22:43 Ya, and if they did that and he beat Garcia it would be really good for him. To just jump up to Euro level without winning at all at British, and to actually beat decent EBU champ like Garcia, would be nice for Ant. That's the type of thing that would show he brings more than the Fitz fight showed
I know he has to prove it but anyone who has seen Fowler knows that he's better than the FItz fight.
Have seen plenty of him, it's the age old thing in boxing, dude looks much better fighting worse opposition. Needs to prove himself in the ring that he can take it to the higher levels
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I have never quite seen what other people saw in Fowler. Decent, but not particularly good, fighter.

I also find him quite grating during interviews and he is always piping up on twitter talking nonsense (when he isn't flogging snake oil that is).

However, on a British domestic level he has a shot against anyone and could well bag himself an EBU title or even a vacant regular strap of Eddie can work his magic.

Thought CBS was unlucky against Riakpore, can see him picking up the EBU vs Mccarthy later in the year and defending it against Riakpore in a rematch and winning handily.
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Fowler looked good against a former area title holder making a comeback.
I think it's time for Fowler to step up again, he doesn't really have time on his side, and then if he can get through that he should be looking at a British Title shot.
Realistically a shot at the English title should be next.
It's vacant at mo and a matchup between him and his amateur rival Williamson or Sheeraz would be great fights and it would give us an indication of his level. Also Conway should be in that mix.
Then a rematch against Fitzgerald(if he is not in prison) or a great local derby against Shea Nearys boy for the Commonwealth.
There is a lot to do to climb to the top of the domestic tree! And of course don't forget Cheeseman and Eggington if we are talking top domestic level.
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What is going on with Fitz? Seems to have gone off the rails a bit, I quite like the guy but the British title should be active and if he isn't in a position to defend it then there are plenty of lads willing to fight for it.

If it does become vacant I like the idea of Cheese vs Metcalf for the vacant strap with Fowler vs Egg in an eliminator for the next mando slot.
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Fitz lost to Cheeseman imo. Fowler won't beat Garcia if that happens, no way.

I like Billam-Smith and I like the McCarthy fight for him.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 18:43
world ranked wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 17:02
margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 22:43 Ya, and if they did that and he beat Garcia it would be really good for him. To just jump up to Euro level without winning at all at British, and to actually beat decent EBU champ like Garcia, would be nice for Ant. That's the type of thing that would show he brings more than the Fitz fight showed
I know he has to prove it but anyone who has seen Fowler knows that he's better than the FItz fight.
Have seen plenty of him, it's the age old thing in boxing, dude looks much better fighting worse opposition. Needs to prove himself in the ring that he can take it to the higher levels
Doesn't need higher level to beat FItz. There first fight showed at worse there same level a 7-5 fight is a usually a same level
fight. I said earlier that to me Fowler ceiling is euro level. I just think the Fowler version of the first Fitz was overconfident against a motivated opponent. I don't think those same things apply in a rematch. I think Fowler will be a better version and good knows what version of Fitz we get but I dont think it the motivaved prove apoint one that was in the ifrst fight. Just my opinion hopefully we'll see.
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keirw wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 21:54 What is going on with Fitz? Seems to have gone off the rails a bit, I quite like the guy but the British title should be active and if he isn't in a position to defend it then there are plenty of lads willing to fight for it.

If it does become vacant I like the idea of Cheese vs Metcalf for the vacant strap with Fowler vs Egg in an eliminator for the next mando slot.
I think he is in jail at mo, he certainly has been on remand, accused of beating up his ex plus her new bf and friend apparently.

Some of his social media videos around that time inc one just after the incident suggest he was on drugs and if found guilty he is looking at a custodial sentence.

https://www.lep.co.uk/news/crime/presto ... ng-2915499
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world ranked wrote: 12 Aug 2020, 09:48
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 18:43
world ranked wrote: 11 Aug 2020, 17:02

I know he has to prove it but anyone who has seen Fowler knows that he's better than the FItz fight.
Have seen plenty of him, it's the age old thing in boxing, dude looks much better fighting worse opposition. Needs to prove himself in the ring that he can take it to the higher levels
Doesn't need higher level to beat FItz. There first fight showed at worse there same level a 7-5 fight is a usually a same level
fight. I said earlier that to me Fowler ceiling is euro level. I just think the Fowler version of the first Fitz was overconfident against a motivated opponent. I don't think those same things apply in a rematch. I think Fowler will be a better version and good knows what version of Fitz we get but I dont think it the motivaved prove apoint one that was in the ifrst fight. Just my opinion hopefully we'll see.
Dude lost to Fitz an got dropped on his butt, so he did need to bring something more

But you say ppl who've seen him know he's better than what he showed....that's where I say, nah, prove it by winning at a higher level. There are so many dudes who can look great beating up 4th rate opponents but then cant pull it off when they step up. This is especially true of offensive fighters who will be flattered by opponents they can hit easy--then it is just an offensive display. But when the opponent can box and move and land...it falls apart
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