The Best Fighter in Rematches

[AntonioMartin]

You have to wonder about the ability of some of these opponents that Pep and Monzon beat in rematches. It looks like sometimes they just needed a live body to beat.

Some of them had the ability to beat Pep and Monzon on their first fights!

[AntonioMartin]

So far, I think the great Muhammad Ali got the record of the most wins the second time around. The guys that he beat in rematches:
Henry Cooper
Sonny Liston
Floyd Patterson
George Chuvalo
Jerry Quarry
Joe Frazier
Ken Norton
Joe Bugner
Leon Spinks

That is 9-0 in rematches.

Actually both you and I were wrong...11-0, as he beat Frazier and Norton twice in rematches

[oogiebe]

You have to wonder about the ability of some of these opponents that Pep and Monzon beat in rematches. It looks like sometimes they just needed a live body to beat.

They had the ability to beat Pep and Monzon on their first fights!

MMMmmmm...check Monzon again, please.

[Ambling Alp II]

You have to wonder about the ability of some of these opponents that Pep and Monzon beat in rematches. It looks like sometimes they just needed a live body to beat.

They could only fight what was in front of them, Alp. Not all of them were thrash. Some of those opponents were very good. Like I have said in Pep's example. He beat 9 in rematches against opponents that were champions or top 10 contenders. He probably beat more top ten contenders than that. What your Ring Record Book says? That is a good reference!

Obviously Pep was a great fighter. Just find it interesting that fought 10 guys twice that weren't even ranked in the top 10. As I said, sometimes a guy just takes a fight against a live body. Back then, you sometimes just had to fight whoever happened to be available. Should not count against him when rating him. Or for him.

[Wee Tommy]

You have to wonder about the ability of some of these opponents that Pep and Monzon beat in rematches. It looks like sometimes they just needed a live body to beat.

They could only fight what was in front of them, Alp. Not all of them were thrash. Some of those opponents were very good. Like I have said in Pep's example. He beat 9 in rematches against opponents that were champions or top 10 contenders. He probably beat more top ten contenders than that. What your Ring Record Book says? That is a good reference!

Obviously Pep was a great fighter. Just find it interesting that fought 10 guys twice that weren't even ranked in the top 10. As I said, sometimes a guy just takes a fight against a live body. Back then, you sometimes just had to fight whoever happened to be available. Should not count against him when rating him. Or for him.

Crazy thinking. Fighters outside the top ten can still fight especially in Peps era.

[Ambling Alp II]

Not in the featherweight division. No way he was going to lose most of those fights even on an off night. Those fights were strictly to pick up a paycheck. Not criticizing Pep for doing it; just saying it was no big achievement.

[Wee Tommy]

Not in the featherweight division. No way he was going to lose most of those fights even on an off night. Those fights were strictly to pick up a paycheck. Not criticizing Pep for doing it; just saying it was no big achievement.

All professional fights are about a paycheck.