Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Teofimo Lopez - October 17, 2020

[margaret thatcher]

lol what a guy

[lazboy]

These boxers need to sign up/consent to a independent dispute resolution service whom has the final say regarding finances, as this nonsense is ruining the sport.

[Thomastearns]

These boxers need to sign up/consent to a independent dispute resolution service whom has the final say regarding finances, as this nonsense is ruining the sport.

Yes, it is.

The business/legal side of boxing which used to be kept mainly hidden (like in the movie and music business) is now threatening to entirely swallow the sporting side, if it hasn't already done so.

The structure of boxing is collapsing into a farce where we might soon have 200+ belt holding champions. The 'sanctioning' bodies are clearly only interested in the business side, and the boxers are following suit.

Sportstars worldwide are far more business minded than their predecessors, but they are seriously risking alienating their increasingly knowledgeable paying fans.

Some kind of structure like the Super Six or the more recent World Boxing Super Series is one way back out of this mess. They guarantee a winner, a true champion, and those who won't sign cannot claim any legit right to a title.

Despite what they might want to believe, and despite a few privileges here and there, no boxer is bigger than the sport.

Nor should they be.

[Ruthless-RKO]

It’s all out in the open now, I think a big factor of it is social media. Everyone is on it. Heck even promoters and managers release information.

[lazboy]

These boxers need to sign up/consent to a independent dispute resolution service whom has the final say regarding finances, as this nonsense is ruining the sport.

Yes, it is.

The business/legal side of boxing which used to be kept mainly hidden (like in the movie and music business) is now threatening to entirely swallow the sporting side, if it hasn't already done so.

The structure of boxing is collapsing into a farce where we might soon have 200+ belt holding champions. The 'sanctioning' bodies are clearly only interested in the business side, and the boxers are following suit.

Sportstars worldwide are far more business minded than their predecessors, but they are seriously risking alienating their increasingly knowledgeable paying fans.

Some kind of structure like the Super Six or the more recent World Boxing Super Series is one way back out of this mess. They guarantee a winner, a true champion, and those who won't sign cannot claim any legit right to a title.

Despite what they might want to believe, and despite a few privileges here and there, no boxer is bigger than the sport.

Nor should they be.

Well said sir.

[lazboy]

It’s all out in the open now, I think a big factor of it is social media. Everyone is on it. Heck even promoters and managers release information.

Definitely agree social media has had a big impact but I don’t agree that it is all out there. Only information the managerS and promoters, etc want to reveal is out there. This is then used to fuel various arguments among fans about who should be fighting who and for what and who deserves what. This arguments, based on a lack of information and mostly speculative take away from the real issue...the real issue is that consumers should be demanding the best fight the best and not delving into the politics of why this isn’t happening, the people who are being paid the big money should be making it happen. Without much research and regardless of Canelo huge contract, which is now in doubt, I feel the sport is shrinking and in time, if interest isn’t piqued, boxing will falter.

[margaret thatcher]

Teo's dad is a bit of a nut, wouldnt surprised me if they are estranged in a couple years

[Cent0089]

What do you guys think? Is Lopez more dangerous oponent than Gervonta Davis?

[margaret thatcher]

If Tank is on, I think he's the best at 135 (or 130). I saw him play with Teo in sparring, albeit it's sparring. Both dudes can box and punch though, both very good fighters.

[lazboy]

We’ve hardly seen much of Lopez. It’s early days to gauge him whereas we have seen more of Tank and he’s a serious puncher and talent. Tanks performance v the one legged Gamboa was very strange though.

[gregregegg]

We’ve hardly seen much of Lopez. It’s early days to gauge him whereas we have seen more of Tank and he’s a serious puncher and talent. Tanks performance v the one legged Gamboa was very strange though.

Geeze have we seen more from tank? Last real opponent was 3 years ago. Been belting bantam weights and the elderly.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I read that Loma gave $800 of his purse to Teo..

[Ruthless-RKO]

Loma has always said he doesn't really care about money.

[Cent0089]

50 - 50 fight. I think IT will be close fight and Lomachenko will catch Teo when he going to be careless. Byť i would not bet a single cent on this fight, very unpredictable. I am curious about size difference.

[DrDuke]

I'd say, it's the case, when a prospect gets a bit overrated. I'm pretty sure, Loma will deal with Lopez confidently. Lopez had a very impressive last performance, that's a big factor. People think, he can deliver, while Loma showed some vulnerabilities. However, Loma's lowlights, like getting knocked down by Linares, are more based on his attitude than on abilities or lack of them. For Lopez Lomachenko will be prepared well and concentrated.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Ruthless-RKO]

Even better, the fight is lined up for ESPN and not ESPN+ or pay-per-view, so this is one of the best and highest profile boxing matches you could make and it’s on cable television.

[margaret thatcher]

I read that Loma gave $800 of his purse to Teo..

Lol very generous, is that gas money or something

[Thomastearns]

Great way for Lomachenko to seize the advantage going in.

Lopez now facing the boxing lesson of his life.

Just how do you prepare for Lomachenko?

Textbook boxing, like Luke Campbell?

Well that's not exactly Teofimo Lopez, is it?

[margaret thatcher]

Campbell has an amateur style that basically means he was getting into a point scoring contest with an ATG amateur, Lopez is a boxer puncher made for the pro game, will bring a whole nother level of challenger

[Ruthless-RKO]

I read that Loma gave $800 of his purse to Teo..

Lol very generous, is that gas money or something

Missed out the K

[NateJR]

According to reports Lomachenko isn't/was never going to give up any of his purse and the fight has been finalized for October.

By the sounds it was completely false that Lomachenko was giving up part of his purse to make the fight. It's hilarious that reporters were falsely saying this nonsense when it was never going to happen. Lopez said in a interview he's too proud for that and would never allow it to happen (Lomachenko giving up part of his purse). Lopez knew the fight was going to be made, there were just a few road blocks in the contract that didn't match up with what was originally negotiated.

[margaret thatcher]

Well then f@ck you Loma you dickhead

[oogiebe]

Well then f@ck you Loma you dickhead

[Ruthless-RKO]

According to reports Lomachenko isn't/was never going to give up any of his purse and the fight has been finalized for October.

By the sounds it was completely false that Lomachenko was giving up part of his purse to make the fight. It's hilarious that reporters were falsely saying this nonsense when it was never going to happen. Lopez said in a interview he's too proud for that and would never allow it to happen (Lomachenko giving up part of his purse). Lopez knew the fight was going to be made, there were just a few road blocks in the contract that didn't match up with what was originally negotiated.

Which reports? Can’t say all that and not provide anything along with it?