Best wins ever by guys with less than 10 fights
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Gotta say my Asian knowledge is terrible
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Joe Joyce beating 3 previous title challengers, in Jennings, Stiverne and Ustinov within ten fights is pretty decent.
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Nightmare Roy
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Loma must top the list surly
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Hardly counts in today's era of boxing. Talent pool is so small these days.
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I know.. remember Charles Martin was a world champion too. Bloody hell. He, just like Stiverne we’re just transitional champions.coghaugen11 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2020, 07:31Hardly counts in today's era of boxing. Talent pool is so small these days.
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Transitional is an overstatement.
He walked the earth like a God, though.
He walked the earth like a God, though.
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Old bones Ian
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Omar Amaya, one fight knocked out Alexis Arguello. Then never fought again.
I always imagine these type of guys years later sat in a bar boasting about knocking out a famous boxer and no one believing it.
I always imagine these type of guys years later sat in a bar boasting about knocking out a famous boxer and no one believing it.
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Complaining about fouls isn't exactly a good skill to pick up.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Aug 2020, 13:12 He complains about fouls all the time now. Didn't bat an eye at all the low blows vs Salido. I guess he learned to complain
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Lol yeah can you imagine!Old bones Ian wrote: ↑12 Aug 2020, 12:25 Omar Amaya, one fight knocked out Alexis Arguello. Then never fought again.
I always imagine these type of guys years later sat in a bar boasting about knocking out a famous boxer and no one believing it.
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Jeff Fenech 6th fight over Satoshi Shingaki and then in the rematch again!
(as a side joke in some Latin countries, the last name Shingaki, the way its pronounced in Spanish would mean screw here!, "chinga aqui!")
Davey Moore over Mijara, who was 24-0.
Leon Spinks beating a surely faded but still fairly, in 1978, usable Muhammad Ali in Spinks' 7th bout!
(as a side joke in some Latin countries, the last name Shingaki, the way its pronounced in Spanish would mean screw here!, "chinga aqui!")
Davey Moore over Mijara, who was 24-0.
Leon Spinks beating a surely faded but still fairly, in 1978, usable Muhammad Ali in Spinks' 7th bout!
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Boxing Prospect
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Shingaki is a super unique fighter in Japanese boxing history.AntonioMartin wrote: ↑12 Aug 2020, 12:46 Jeff Fenech 6th fight over Satoshi Shingaki and then in the rematch again!
(as a side joke in some Latin countries, the last name Shingaki, the way its pronounced in Spanish would mean screw here!, "chinga aqui!")
Davey Moore over Mijara, who was 24-0.
Leon Spinks beating a surely faded but still fairly, in 1978, usable Muhammad Ali in Spinks' 7th bout!
He was their first IBF champion for something like 30 years as the IBF weren't recognised by the JBC. He's the only fighter to have won a world title under the old IBF Japan (super obscure IBF rival to the JBC), hence why almost all of his bouts have the "Unsanctioned" icon next to them on boxrec. He was a very decent amateur but should never have been fast tracked like he was.
His title win came against a very limited Filipino, he came close to losing in his first defense then got beat twice by Fenech.
On paper Fenech's win over his look good, but they say more about the early days of the IBF, and the fall out of Shingaki with the JBC. Shingaki is very interesting, but certainly not a fighter on par with some of the others mentioned.
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It's in Chinese. Change the "cn" in your link to "en" and it'll sort it out :)Shhhh wrote: ↑12 Aug 2020, 13:15 Paul Brown kod Joe Bugner in his 5th fight. He never won again
https://boxrec.com/cn/proboxer/24227
Ps don’t know why it’s in Japanese
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There is a fighter who required no fights at all to secure a shot at a world title. Rafael Lovera lost in his pro debut to Venezuelan great Luis Estaba for the WBC light-flyweight title.
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If boxrec records are complete (big if) there have been 8 fighters to fight for a world title on their debut:
Pete Rademacher
Rafael Lovera
Joko Arter*
Joves De La Puz* (who lost a split decision to Satoshi Shingaki - who was mentioned earlier for his losses to Jeff Fenech)
Masaharu Kawakami (he is listed as having had fighter on the TV graphic for the the bout, and did fight an bout that was later declared an exhibition)
Domingus Siwalette*
Arturo Mayan
and Hyun Mi Choi
*I would suspect these 3 probably weren't having their debuts and simply don't have prior bouts in the boxrec database
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One worthy of mentioning going forward (maybe) Kamshybek Kunkabayev will debut on August 23rd against Issa Akberbayev (20-1, 15)
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Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑13 Aug 2020, 07:27If boxrec records are complete (big if) there have been 8 fighters to fight for a world title on their debut:
Pete Rademacher
Rafael Lovera
Joko Arter*
Joves De La Puz* (who lost a split decision to Satoshi Shingaki - who was mentioned earlier for his losses to Jeff Fenech)
Masaharu Kawakami (he is listed as having had fighter on the TV graphic for the the bout, and did fight an bout that was later declared an exhibition)
Domingus Siwalette*
Arturo Mayan
and Hyun Mi Choi
*I would suspect these 3 probably weren't having their debuts and simply don't have prior bouts in the boxrec database
Cheers, Mr Yalen.
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Fury vs The 22-3 Highlander seemed impressive at the time. All of Fury's early fights after the debut were decent. On paper anyway - lot of padded records obviously.
Good thread, got me watching Patterson vs Rademacher on YT. Pete didn't win of course, but he was 20-17 after R2 and that deserves an honoUrable mention.
Imagine Yoka vs Wlad in Autumn 2016 !![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Good thread, got me watching Patterson vs Rademacher on YT. Pete didn't win of course, but he was 20-17 after R2 and that deserves an honoUrable mention.
Imagine Yoka vs Wlad in Autumn 2016 !
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Canadian heavyweight Jean Claude Roy, who fought from 1964-70 and retired with a record of 9-10, made his pro debut on Dec. 6, 1964 with a 10-round decision over former British Commonwealth light heavyweight champ and world title challenger Yvon Durelle -- aka 'The Fighting Fisherman' -- who was 88-28-2 at the time.
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writehooks wrote: ↑16 Aug 2020, 16:45 Canadian heavyweight Jean Claude Roy, who fought from 1964-70 and retired with a record of 9-10, made his pro debut on Dec. 6, 1964 with a 10-round decision over former British Commonwealth light heavyweight champ and world title challenger Yvon Durelle -- aka 'The Fighting Fisherman' -- who was 88-28-2 at the time.
This reminds me of Kenya's John Odhiambho, who turned pro with a points win over Bunny Johnson in Denmark in 1980. Bunny was 53-14-1 (31) and the reigning British light-heavyweight champion.
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On a similar note -
Ki Soo Kim and Ryota Murata beat the reigning OPBF champions
Faded to beats Leon Spinks was beaten by the debuting John Carlo
Again beyond shot but the once brilliant Lorenzo Parra has been beaten by Arsenii Garibian and Jorge Guedes, who were both making their debuts
Ki Soo Kim and Ryota Murata beat the reigning OPBF champions
Faded to beats Leon Spinks was beaten by the debuting John Carlo
Again beyond shot but the once brilliant Lorenzo Parra has been beaten by Arsenii Garibian and Jorge Guedes, who were both making their debuts