David Benavidez vs. Roamer Alexis Angulo - August 15, 2020

[lazboy]

Fight stopped. Corner stops it.

[AntonioMartin]

Angulo, tough but limited, we will prob be seeing him a lot more as an opponent.

An ESPN2 type fighter???

[margaret thatcher]

Back in the Friday Night Fight days a guy like him would get appearances matched more at his level. That series was actually pretty lit, constantly having evenly matched fights.

But now I'd expect to see him regularly as a 'test' or perhaps even an outclassed title challenger again. I mean I guess is this is already the 3rd time, so maybe that's already happening lol

[jujigatame]

It's obviously not just a win or lose thing, you have to consider the level of who they fought and then also how they performed whether it was a loss or not. Take a rough top 50 and look how sh!tty it gets, there are guys there or near there who haven't even fought 1 half relevant opponent, so giving the clear top man a hard night should be worth a lot

And I find it a bit ironic that you're a guy who constantly complains about fighters fighting poor opponents, but then when they actually have a good showing vs the top guy in the world you don't think it's worth anything either and still complain on the guy for gettiing air time. Like come on man lol. I thought we'd agree that it means a hell of a lot more than just building up wins over 4th tier guys who themselves havent beat anyone

That's the problem with just going on win or loss, it completely disregards a good showing vs a top guy for some handpicked wins at much lower levels. I think the first has a lot more value to it.

I mean, to be specific, what type of top 50 would you have if Wallin doesn't cut it?

That's an odd reading. Just because I hate mismatches means I should give outsized credit to any underdog who manages to take a few rounds? I don't really follow that logic.

I'm not going purely on win/loss. I'm going on context. I think Fury was probably a bit undertrained and undermotivated, and that the cut (which tend to be chance events, not some sort of repeatable skill) changed the fight significantly. I don't think he is definitively in or out of the top 50 based on that performance, and in terms of his wins, they've been 100% against scrubs.

That's not my reading at all. You bitch all the time about mismatches but then when a guy fights the top f@cking guy in the division and gives him one of his toughest nights you still give pretty much credit for a guy who had some success in a fight at the absolute highest level. I just thought you'd have more respect for someone who went up to the highest possible level and had his moments.

Do you know how sh!tty the depth of the division is? How many of these other 'boarderline' guys have done something like that lately?

Seriously bruh, the division gets awful that low down, how about actually naming these dudes who would push Wallin out? I just don't see it

Again I don't see the connection. I don't like mismatches, and I don't heap outsized praise on someone for taking a few rounds from a world-class fighter in a flukey losing effort. There's no contradiction there.

I can't name you 50 definitively better HWs, but I never said he wasn't top 50 to begin with.

[margaret thatcher]

No you don't, you don't like when guys fight overmatched opponents, whereas Wallin actually went all the way to the top and from his perspective couldnt have taken a fight that was any more the opposite of facing some mismatched scrub. I thought you--hater of dudes taking the easy route---would give more credit to a guy who took a big challenge, and actually did pretty well, ripping up the #1's face , hurting him, and winning rounds.

How many of these other boarderline guys did that lately to the world #1? Most likely they haven't, and they'll just have a bunch of wins you'll sh!t on anyway

I'm just curious now, what would your top 50 without him look like? You said he's boarderline so presumably you'd actually have these names who could feasibly be ahead, but going through the rankings that low I just can't get there unless I start plugging in guys who havent faced anyone at all that's half decent, let alone troubling the top guy

[jujigatame]

I think you're conflating different issues here. The fundamental reason I dislike mismatches is because they're not interesting. There is little drama in a fight where one fighter has a 99% chance of winning, and it's not much fun watching a fight where the outcome is a foregone conclusion.

That is a separate question from what we're discussing here, which is how much information can be gleaned from Wallin's loss to Fury. Personally, I think the answer to that is "not a huge amount".

[margaret thatcher]

I'd say fighting at the absolute highest level and giving the world #1 one of their toughest fights rates pretty highly when the context is the top 50 of a division lacking depth, and whether a dude makes that cut, I'd still like to see what type of guys are rounding that out if Wallin doesn't make the cut. You haven't exactly been making it clearer with actual names.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Ron C]

Anyone have any info on the preliminary bout that went to a no contest? Habib Ahmed? What happened!?

[Ruthless-RKO]

[jujigatame]

That was a really crap decision. Even a draw would have been a stretch.

[TheBeast]

super middle
David Benavidez 22 0 0
vs
Roamer Alexis Angulo 26 1 0
World Boxing Council World Super Middle Title

Angulo's corner RTD after 10



FULL CARD HIGHLIGHTS HERE:
https://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/vie ... 8&t=132655


ENJOY!!

[Ruthless-RKO]

Benavidez: I'm Definitely Staying At 168; Just Gotta Clean Up My Diet A Little Bit

“I’m definitely gonna give it one more try,” Benavidez said during a press conference following his stoppage of Alexis Angulo. “I’ve gotta clean myself up, clean my diet up a little bit more. You know, I thought my diet was already solid. You know what I mean? But we’re definitely gonna come a little bit more prepared next time. You know what I mean?

“People are judging me, you know, making it seem like I’m a super-undisciplined fighter, this and that, because I missed weight one time. You know what I mean? It’s not fair, but it is what it is. But I’m definitely coming back to 168.”

“Everything besides the weight, everything was perfect, man,” Benavidez said. “You know what I mean? When I usually lose weight, I follow a system. Two gallons [of water], you know, on Sunday, then two on Monday, then, you know, but I cut all that off. You know what I mean? Because I wasn’t really sure how this bubble was gonna work. We were only able to work out one [hour] out the day, for an hour [at the Mohegan Sun gym]. You know what I mean?

“And I didn’t have a sauna, and really the stuff I need to cut my weight. You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, I’m a man. You know, I missed weight, so you know, I’m not making any excuses. But I’m very disappointed about that. You know, stripped of my belt, paid a huge fine. You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, I’m still undefeated.”

[margaret thatcher]

Maybe he just wants to keep getting stripped so he can add '2x champ '3x champ' etc

You know what I mean?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Maybe he just wants to keep getting stripped so he can add '2x champ '3x champ' etc

You know what I mean?

That's a plan..

[Ruthless-RKO]

Benavidez-Angulo: Showtime's Tripleheader Peaked At 245K Viewers; Averaged 188K

Showtime’s viewership went up slightly Saturday night from the network’s previous “Showtime Championship Boxing” telecast.

Nielsen Media Research statistics released Tuesday indicated Showtime’s tripleheader drew a peak audience of 245,000 toward the end of the lightweight title bout between Rolando Romero and Jackson Marinez. The main event, David Benavidez’s victory over Alexis Angulo, drew an average of 188,000 viewers.

Nielsen’s numbers from Saturday’s show include viewers that watched it on television. Those that streamed the event on laptops or other devices aren’t included in those figures.

The main event of Showtime’s previous three-bout broadcast – Angelo Leo’s 12-round, unanimous-decision win against Tramaine Williams in a WBO junior featherweight title fight August 1 – attracted a peak audience of 209,000 and an average audience of 150,000. The show headlined by Leo-Williams was Showtime’s first live boxing broadcast since March 13 due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

The average viewership for the Romero-Ramirez match was 180,000. Las Vegas’ Romero (12-0, 10 KOs) recorded a controversial, unanimous-decision victory over the Dominican Republic’s Marinez (19-1, 7 KOs) to win the WBA interim lightweight title in the second of three fights Showtime televised from Mohegan Sun Arena in Uncasville, Connecticut.

The opener of Showtime’s broadcast Saturday night, heavyweight contender Otto Wallin’s fifth-round stoppage of Travis Kauffman, was watched by an average audience of 139,000.

[Enlightened-One]

The numbers aren't good (in comparison to historical audience figures and those achieved by rival networks), but then again the fight card is lacking marquee names.

So I guess they're decent enough figures that probably met expectations, especially considering the fact that Showtime stepped away from boxing for some time and probably need time to rebuild a loyal fanbase.