Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
What a shame. Whyte was more than capable of winning this. Had all the tools.
Sadly for all the skill he built up, for all the tools he honed, he’s not been consistent. The ballooning, the steroids controversies, the flat performances that followed the razor sharp ones. The horrible fights with Allen, Helenius, Wach; the tremendous ones with Chisora, Parker, Rivas.
He does get clipped - even in his best performances, so this was something that could happen vs a good “punch picking veteran” like Povetkin: the Russian’s best chance of winning. But so sad to see Dillian Whyte get taken out like David Price.
I do think he’s Britain’s best heavyweight below the Lewis/Fitzsimmons/Fury/Joshua bracket. Was so refreshing to see him take on contender after contender. Unlike Bruno who was protected between title shots, for example.
But you know, I think he will be back in with contenders, eager to prove himself. Meaning, more terrific fights. Guys like Hunter, perhaps. But can he reclaim his edge and get back to contendership, or will he become more of a Chisora “gatekeeper”, with great fights just below the top level?
I am gutted as Dillian has achieved considerably without freakish size or strength advantages, and built up solid skills and worked hard to beat good fighters in punishing distance fights. Anyway, another highly dramatic heavyweight contest.
Sadly for all the skill he built up, for all the tools he honed, he’s not been consistent. The ballooning, the steroids controversies, the flat performances that followed the razor sharp ones. The horrible fights with Allen, Helenius, Wach; the tremendous ones with Chisora, Parker, Rivas.
He does get clipped - even in his best performances, so this was something that could happen vs a good “punch picking veteran” like Povetkin: the Russian’s best chance of winning. But so sad to see Dillian Whyte get taken out like David Price.
I do think he’s Britain’s best heavyweight below the Lewis/Fitzsimmons/Fury/Joshua bracket. Was so refreshing to see him take on contender after contender. Unlike Bruno who was protected between title shots, for example.
But you know, I think he will be back in with contenders, eager to prove himself. Meaning, more terrific fights. Guys like Hunter, perhaps. But can he reclaim his edge and get back to contendership, or will he become more of a Chisora “gatekeeper”, with great fights just below the top level?
I am gutted as Dillian has achieved considerably without freakish size or strength advantages, and built up solid skills and worked hard to beat good fighters in punishing distance fights. Anyway, another highly dramatic heavyweight contest.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
Well as long as it’s not a headline PPV again.. it should be on a AJ PPV undercard tbh.. but I’m guessing cuz it was a blow out and of course entertaining.. they gonna have a rematch as a headline act on PPV. Sky need to catch up on their PPV’s this year.DrDuke wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 19:53Well, sometimes there can be a point in it, maybe even here, if to dig deeper, but the other outcome isn't just likely with everything we know about these two guys.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 19:51When it’s a clean win by KO, why do a rematch? He got cleaned out. Doesn’t matter what the cards say before a KO if you get KTFO.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
Wow, glad there’s talk of a rematch. Whyte has an opportunity to get it right.
Obviously when you go in for the kill you’re wide open yourself.
Let’s see if Dillian can learn from this. Obviously better than him have; Lewis, Joshua.
I do like blue chip heavyweights in consistently good fights. I remember all the awful fights between Audley, Williams, Skelton and Spott. So I’m grateful for hardnosed heavyweight veterans like Dillian Whyte.
People do like to be negative and he’s given them fuel: steroid controversies, whining about the industry, splitting with his trainer who was doing great work - and then getting KO’d.
Right now Tibbs rightly has people on his side. Don’t forget he took some flak for cheering when Benn was getting pummelled by McClellan in the first, Just after Benn had split with Tibbs’ dad. It’s always target practice for anyone in the spotlight, especially with the Internet & in particular with ungrateful British fans who overthink everything.
Obviously when you go in for the kill you’re wide open yourself.
Let’s see if Dillian can learn from this. Obviously better than him have; Lewis, Joshua.
I do like blue chip heavyweights in consistently good fights. I remember all the awful fights between Audley, Williams, Skelton and Spott. So I’m grateful for hardnosed heavyweight veterans like Dillian Whyte.
People do like to be negative and he’s given them fuel: steroid controversies, whining about the industry, splitting with his trainer who was doing great work - and then getting KO’d.
Right now Tibbs rightly has people on his side. Don’t forget he took some flak for cheering when Benn was getting pummelled by McClellan in the first, Just after Benn had split with Tibbs’ dad. It’s always target practice for anyone in the spotlight, especially with the Internet & in particular with ungrateful British fans who overthink everything.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
A rematch is coming.
Fury has Wilder then AJ, AJ has Pulev before that fight.
What other fights are out there? Rematch, revenge or death! It will be PPV again, a fight Whyte should prob win, but people will pay, Eddie makes money, the boxers make money, fun fight to watch, and eventually one will get a shot at the title!
Fury has Wilder then AJ, AJ has Pulev before that fight.
What other fights are out there? Rematch, revenge or death! It will be PPV again, a fight Whyte should prob win, but people will pay, Eddie makes money, the boxers make money, fun fight to watch, and eventually one will get a shot at the title!
Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
X2
Whyte was conned into leaving himself open, he was looking to deflect a body shot.
Whyte was conned into leaving himself open, he was looking to deflect a body shot.
Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
Whyte has earned like a championknockout wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 18:42 Thanks for update guys
Just saw the finish ! That was Razor Ruddock style left uppercut / left hook hybrid !!
Heavyweight boxing for you
A fair amount of extreme views on the board
Whyte isn’t a bum or hype job , he just got caught with a great shot
Neither is Pov a fraud because he had close ones with Hunter / Huck.
Styles make fights.
Feel sorry for Whyte In some respects, but he rode his luck against Rivas , Chisora and most of all Parker.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
Hahaha, go on Andy
Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
A few further random thoughts:
- Either Povetkin's legs have gone with age or they weren't there on the night. He was squatting just before rounds 3 - 5 seemingly just to get some life in them. Didn't look half as solid as against AJ and Hunter.
- Povetkin eats quick straight lead rights like nobody's business. The reflexes may have gone with the legs.
- That said, round 4 aside, Povetkin had plenty of moments in the fight and you could argue for him taking 2 of the first 3. Landed a lot of good body work and forced Whyte back at times.
- Not often you see all the definitive punches in a fight be left uppercuts. (I never really learned to throw one properly so I'm always amazed when the top boys can flatten people with them.)
- Been said already, but Whyte has developed an excellent jab, very tight guard, and a mean low blow. He has nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of in that performance. Just undone by a piece of magic he may or may not have ever been able to prepare for.
- Povetkin is an absolute model of gentlemanly behaviour. Touches gloves before and after each round, restrained celebration when it was clear Whyte was out (or perhaps he was just knackered), checked on him afterwards etc. Adam Smith probably has him on his toilet cubicle wall for those "There's the respect" moments
- Either Povetkin's legs have gone with age or they weren't there on the night. He was squatting just before rounds 3 - 5 seemingly just to get some life in them. Didn't look half as solid as against AJ and Hunter.
- Povetkin eats quick straight lead rights like nobody's business. The reflexes may have gone with the legs.
- That said, round 4 aside, Povetkin had plenty of moments in the fight and you could argue for him taking 2 of the first 3. Landed a lot of good body work and forced Whyte back at times.
- Not often you see all the definitive punches in a fight be left uppercuts. (I never really learned to throw one properly so I'm always amazed when the top boys can flatten people with them.)
- Been said already, but Whyte has developed an excellent jab, very tight guard, and a mean low blow. He has nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of in that performance. Just undone by a piece of magic he may or may not have ever been able to prepare for.
- Povetkin is an absolute model of gentlemanly behaviour. Touches gloves before and after each round, restrained celebration when it was clear Whyte was out (or perhaps he was just knackered), checked on him afterwards etc. Adam Smith probably has him on his toilet cubicle wall for those "There's the respect" moments
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Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
None of them have an air of invinciblility though. They've all looked vulnerable. It seems more competitive than it did when the Klitschkos reigned.Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 19:42Thing is if you'e sooooo far beehind #3 and #3 is a mile behind #2 and '1 is regarded as far better than #2Cholo_cws wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 19:23Same here. He was #4 in the world in most people's eyes up to tonight.Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 19:08
IMO he's world class in a VERY VERY weak era at Heavyweight
Is this this a race worth fighting
Lets put into TV
BBC #1
BBC #2
ITV
CH4
CH5
Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
It was a good little fight, plenty of action and some good skill shown by both men.
I'm a Whyte fan, but I do love a well timed uppercut and Povetkin set it up beautifully.
A rematch will happen, and why not? Neither are getting a title shot any time soon, so why not have another fan friendly fight and make themselves a bit more money while they wait.
Another KO loss for Whyte is a possibility, but far from inevitable, let's not forget how close he looked to winning the round prior to the final punch.
I'm a Whyte fan, but I do love a well timed uppercut and Povetkin set it up beautifully.
A rematch will happen, and why not? Neither are getting a title shot any time soon, so why not have another fan friendly fight and make themselves a bit more money while they wait.
Another KO loss for Whyte is a possibility, but far from inevitable, let's not forget how close he looked to winning the round prior to the final punch.
Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
More importantly why wasn't Smith commentating? Holidays?
Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
I think Whyte ultimately is just too heavy. 252lbs is a Foreman model 2 weight, suitable for powerhouse types to whom everyone gives ground; not a circling, jabbing, counter-puncher, who surely needs to be light and lean, like Holmes and Holyfield were, in order to be quick and snappy. This is doubly the case if the chin is unreliable.
Bowe and Lewis, bigger men than Whyte, had nightmares when they came in at the 252lb range.
Bowe and Lewis, bigger men than Whyte, had nightmares when they came in at the 252lb range.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
Whytes pretty shite ain’t he? Pov is miles off his prime.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
None have sympathy for Ruiz after what he threw away by coming to the Joshua rematch in repellant shape.
But, definitely would love to see Whyte v Ruiz one day especially if both could lose a good stone and a half.
Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
Well said. He is way too big for his height. That thick belly does not help him.Onamastus wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 06:21 I think Whyte ultimately is just too heavy. 252lbs is a Foreman model 2 weight, suitable for powerhouse types to whom everyone gives ground; not a circling, jabbing, counter-puncher, who surely needs to be light and lean, like Holmes and Holyfield were, in order to be quick and snappy. This is doubly the case if the chin is unreliable.
Bowe and Lewis, bigger men than Whyte, had nightmares when they came in at the 252lb range.
Although Dillian complains and cries a lot, I think he’ll be hard on himself and hopefully this gives him motivation to be in better shape.
As he can’t afford to get slopp and get clipped one more time. The warning signs were always there, throughout Chisora 1, the KDs vs Parker and Rivas. Not forgetting the fight that made him, the KO by Joshua in their minor classic “domestic world title elim”.
Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
Wish more fighters would take a leaf out of his book .dookus wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 05:46
- Povetkin is an absolute model of gentlemanly behaviour. Touches gloves before and after each round, restrained celebration when it was clear Whyte was out (or perhaps he was just knackered), checked on him afterwards etc. Adam Smith probably has him on his toilet cubicle wall for those "There's the respect" moments
He offered his hand at the face off post weigh in and Whyte refused it .
I guess he has his respect now .
Re: Round-by-Round: Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 August 2020
Maybe , his hand was out for long enough , to be fair Whyte usually comes across as a decent bloke .Shhhh wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 07:52To be fair I don’t think Whyte saw it. He bumped fists laterrd350lc wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 07:49Wish more fighters would take a leaf out of his book .dookus wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 05:46
- Povetkin is an absolute model of gentlemanly behaviour. Touches gloves before and after each round, restrained celebration when it was clear Whyte was out (or perhaps he was just knackered), checked on him afterwards etc. Adam Smith probably has him on his toilet cubicle wall for those "There's the respect" moments
He offered his hand at the face off post weigh in and Whyte refused it .
I guess he has his respect now .