Which fight would you prefer?

margaret thatcher · Post by **margaret thatcher** » 23 Aug 2020, 22:41

Josh vs Fury undisputed

Wilder vs Fury 4 (assuming Wilder wins the 3rd)

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 23 Aug 2020, 22:47

Deja vu

margaret thatcher · Post by **margaret thatcher** » 23 Aug 2020, 22:48

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 22:47Deja vu

Only for us hardcore bruhs who frequent both sections though

I wanna see if there is much difference

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 23 Aug 2020, 23:14

Should have just changed the 4 to a 3 on the subject title MG.
Anyways I know what you meant.

Gotta be Fury v Joshua innit.

margaret thatcher · Post by **margaret thatcher** » 23 Aug 2020, 23:24

I say 4th because that seems like it could be the path if Wilder wins next, whereas we'll get Fury-AJ quite possibly if Fury beats Wilder again

These are the 2 big routes that can come out of the Fury-Wilder 3 rresult it seems

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 24 Aug 2020, 00:55

Not many opportunities like this come up at least in Fury's case, he's in a position to LEGITIMATELY claim to be the Heavyweight Champion of the World with no arguments should he beat Joshua clean.
Should Joshua win there's still obstacles in front of him, however a victory significantly strengthens his claim.
Wilder apparently has the option of a rematch with Fury and I could understand why he would exercise that right, but in terms of who's the man he should step aside for now it just makes more sense.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 24 Aug 2020, 01:04

Evander wrote: ↑24 Aug 2020, 00:55 Not many opportunities like this come up at least in Fury's case, he's in a position to LEGITIMATELY claim to be the Heavyweight Champion of the World with no arguments should he beat Joshua clean.
Should Joshua win there's still obstacles in front of him, however a victory significantly strengthens his claim.
Wilder apparently has the option of a rematch with Fury and I could understand why he would exercise that right, but in terms of who's the man he should step aside for now it just makes more sense.

Wilder has no reason to step aside. Would be bad business decision for him.

TheBeast · Post by **TheBeast** » 24 Aug 2020, 01:29

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 22:41 Josh vs Fury undisputed

Wilder vs Fury 4 (assuming Wilder wins the 3rd)

Fury IMO won 1 and 2... don't see how WIlder wins... If he does, id def want to see a 4th fight if the 3rd wasn't a robbery...

Otherwise I'd def select joshua vs Fury

In the end all of these don't matter. IMO Usyk cleans the division

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 24 Aug 2020, 02:03

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Aug 2020, 01:04
Evander wrote: ↑24 Aug 2020, 00:55 Not many opportunities like this come up at least in Fury's case, he's in a position to LEGITIMATELY claim to be the Heavyweight Champion of the World with no arguments should he beat Joshua clean.
Should Joshua win there's still obstacles in front of him, however a victory significantly strengthens his claim.
Wilder apparently has the option of a rematch with Fury and I could understand why he would exercise that right, but in terms of who's the man he should step aside for now it just makes more sense.
Wilder has no reason to step aside. Would be bad business decision for him.

You're right he doesn't.
Bad business decision is another conversation altogether depending on Deontay's career trajectory as he sees it.

candyslim · Post by **candyslim** » 24 Aug 2020, 03:18

No he doesn't. His career is on the home stretch and he needs to grab his opportunities asap before age catches up with him.

I have no great desire to see Fury v Wilder III, it's just another impediment to the fight for undisputed. So was Fury v Whyte had Whyte got past Povetkin, but both Deontay and Dillian have to put their careers before any consideration of what might be best for the sport, or what the fans might want, obviously.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 24 Aug 2020, 03:23

I'm hoping for Fury/Joshua; the fight is long overdue.

I think a trilogy of fights is enough between Fury and Wilder.

Wilder has failed to beat Fury twice, once when Fury wasn't even truly ready when he got away with a disputed draw.

Even if he somehow wins the rubber match, I have no interest in number 4 just yet because the two of them could ending fighting each other annually until they're in their 70s.

Fury has rightly earned the right to face Joshua now, never mind a third Wilder fight.

Enlightened-One · Post by **Enlightened-One** » 24 Aug 2020, 03:34

No one (apart from conspiracy theorist die hard Bronze Bomber fans) wants to see Wilder-Fury III, let alone a fourth bout.

Wilder was out-boxed by Fury during their first bout and was then bulldozed in the rematch.

And apart from scoring a Povetkin style lottery-winning type one-punch KO (against the run of play), it’s clear that Deontay can’t beat Tyson.

So the answer being posed by this thread seems a tad redundant to me.

A Fury-Joshua bout is a much bigger event than Fury-Wilder IV.

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 24 Aug 2020, 03:45

Tyson Fury
There's not a man born to his mother that can beat him.

candyslim · Post by **candyslim** » 24 Aug 2020, 03:48

You might want to think about stocking up with Pot-noodle before you take that thought to the bookies

DrDuke · Post by **DrDuke** » 24 Aug 2020, 05:20

TheBeast wrote: ↑24 Aug 2020, 01:29 Fury IMO won 1 and 2... don't see how WIlder wins... If he does, id def want to see a 4th fight if the 3rd wasn't a robbery...

Otherwise I'd def select joshua vs Fury

Right.

TheBeast wrote: ↑24 Aug 2020, 01:29 In the end all of these don't matter. IMO Usyk cleans the division

Wrong.

Evander wrote: ↑24 Aug 2020, 03:45 Tyson Fury
There's not a man born to his mother that can beat him.

Right.

Fightnight Scores · Post by **Fightnight Scores** » 24 Aug 2020, 09:41

IF Wilder manages to land a bomb and KO Fury number 4 is inevitable to settle the score.

Draw - Fury - Wilder - ??

Not totally out of the question but they will have been fighting each other for about 5 years once they get all that out of the way

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 24 Aug 2020, 09:46

I'd still love to see Wilder vs Joshua

Right now Fury vs Joshua is the biggest fight in Boxing, and you could make a strong case that it'd be the biggest fight in British Boxing history. At least for well over a century.

I know Max Kellerman is always harping on Crawford vs Spence to be the best fight in Boxing. Well best in a "Battle of P4P Elite" sense. Yes, he may be right.

But there's no doubt whatsoever, that the biggest and most lucrative possible fight right now is Fury vs Joshua.

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 24 Aug 2020, 09:57

I don't see much hope for wilder, but if he won the 4th fight is the call or wilder/Josh.

Enlightened-One · Post by **Enlightened-One** » 24 Aug 2020, 10:47

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Aug 2020, 09:46Right now Fury vs Joshua is the biggest fight in Boxing, and you could make a strong case that it'd be the biggest fight in British Boxing history. At least for well over a century.

From a commercial perspective, in terms of generating revenue and purse size, Joshua-Fury will probably be the biggest ever fight in British history.

However, in the context of audience figures, newspaper coverage and awareness of mainstream casuals (pre-internet, pre-satellite TV), the following fights will be bigger by far:
• Ali vs. Frazier
• McGuigan vs. Pedroza
• Eubank vs. Benn
• Benn vs. McClellan
• And many more.

The Ali-Frazier fight attracted nearly 30m viewers in the UK. And 18m+ often tuned into Barry McGuigan’s bouts, as well as 16m+ for Benn-Eubank.

The viewing figures and the interest from mainstream casuals for boxing in the UK today are dwarfed by anything that occurred before 2008.

The sport isn't as popular as it once was, despite the fact there's more money to be made nowadays.

Bandog · Post by **Bandog** » 24 Aug 2020, 11:50

Not sure. If Wilder/Fury has a 4th, good chance there may be a 5th, but hopefully not. Both guys are irritating af. I'd rather see guys fight someone they haven't fought before.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 24 Aug 2020, 17:17

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Aug 2020, 10:47
gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Aug 2020, 09:46Right now Fury vs Joshua is the biggest fight in Boxing, and you could make a strong case that it'd be the biggest fight in British Boxing history. At least for well over a century.
From a commercial perspective, in terms of generating revenue and purse size, Joshua-Fury will probably be the biggest ever fight in British history.

However, in the context of audience figures, newspaper coverage and awareness of mainstream casuals (pre-internet, pre-satellite TV), the following fights will be bigger by far:
• Ali vs. Frazier
• McGuigan vs. Pedroza
• Eubank vs. Benn
• Benn vs. McClellan
• And many more.

The Ali-Frazier fight attracted nearly 30m viewers in the UK. And 18m+ often tuned into Barry McGuigan’s bouts, as well as 16m+ for Benn-Eubank.

The viewing figures and the interest from mainstream casuals for boxing in the UK today are dwarfed by anything that occurred before 2008.

The sport isn't as popular as it once was, despite the fact there's more money to be made nowadays.

I didn't say it was the biggest fight of all time. Just the biggest fight of the here and now.