Chauncey Welliver scaled 378 lb !!

[funso banjo baby]

yesturdays 'fight' with Cassius Chaney


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[watsupdoc87]

Where's kronk

[chinarich]

yesturdays 'fight' with Cassius Chaney


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Yikes. I thought the fight against Billy Wright where their combined weight was around 700lbs was bad enough...

[Fray Bentos]

He's a good fighter though, 378lbs? That's like 28 stone, maybe more.

[H8Usernames]

Poor fellow. Obesity is no joke. My own path to recovery is proving to be a dificult one 308 pounds but today I did something I havent done for forever. 3 rounds of shadowboxing/punch pattern. Such a simple exercize can do it anywhere with just the help of the round timer in my cellphone, why havent I been doing this every day?

[chinarich]

Poor fellow. Obesity is no joke. My own path to recovery is proving to be a dificult one 308 pounds but today I did something I havent done for forever. 3 rounds of shadowboxing/punch pattern. Such a simple exercize can do it anywhere with just the help of the round timer in my cellphone, why havent I been doing this every day?

I know Chauncy posts on here from time to time, I would never make fun of any fighter but it’s interesting to know his thought process turning up so out of shape. What’s to be gained from it?

[H8Usernames]

Poor fellow. Obesity is no joke. My own path to recovery is proving to be a dificult one 308 pounds but today I did something I havent done for forever. 3 rounds of shadowboxing/punch pattern. Such a simple exercize can do it anywhere with just the help of the round timer in my cellphone, why havent I been doing this every day?

I know Chauncy posts on here from time to time, I would never make fun of any fighter but it’s interesting to know his thought process turning up so out of shape. What’s to be gained from it?

I would say that its life. Fellow probably does some work besides boxing and cant train as much as he might want to and then he might be dealing with a bit of depression and voila just like magic the kilos pile up.

[chinarich]

Poor fellow. Obesity is no joke. My own path to recovery is proving to be a dificult one 308 pounds but today I did something I havent done for forever. 3 rounds of shadowboxing/punch pattern. Such a simple exercize can do it anywhere with just the help of the round timer in my cellphone, why havent I been doing this every day?

I know Chauncy posts on here from time to time, I would never make fun of any fighter but it’s interesting to know his thought process turning up so out of shape. What’s to be gained from it?

I would say that its life. Fellow probably does some work besides boxing and cant train as much as he might want to and then he might be dealing with a bit of depression and voila just like magic the kilos pile up.

Sure, that’s true. From what I’ve read online he’s an incredibly decent chap, hope he works out whatever issues are causing that because it’s not healthy

[GalenBadBoyBrown]

I personally know Chauncy he is a great fighter and I have fought him twice and he is always gonna battle weight as I have and do but he is one of the nicest guys and from the looks you would think he would get tired but the guy is a great fighter with surprising stamina but he has to get his weight under control to live a long life best of luck to him in future but it might be time to pass the torch before he gets damaged best of luck in future for what he might do

[punchoutsb]

I really hope for the sake of his health that Welliver can lose some weight. While I've never met the man, literally everyone I've known/spoken to has said he is a great person.It does look like weight's always been a struggle, but he weighed 232 briefly less than 10 years ago. The older he gets the harder it will be to come off. It would be a shame to see him cut years off of his life, or have a decrease in quality of life because of this extreme amount of weight. I know he posts here, and I mean absolutely no disrespect. I just hope he is able to lose the weight and keep it off for the sake of himself and his loved ones.

[margaret thatcher]

Poor fellow. Obesity is no joke. My own path to recovery is proving to be a dificult one 308 pounds but today I did something I havent done for forever. 3 rounds of shadowboxing/punch pattern. Such a simple exercize can do it anywhere with just the help of the round timer in my cellphone, why havent I been doing this every day?

I know Chauncy posts on here from time to time, I would never make fun of any fighter but it’s interesting to know his thought process turning up so out of shape. What’s to be gained from it?

A pay cheque is to be gained from it, if a guy is just turning up for the money probably doesn't give a flying f@ck if he's out of shape

[margaret thatcher]

Btw Cassius Chaney is poo

[Tony1244]

Good, he's slimmed down.

[Kronkpride]

Well I watched the fight on youtube. Add another 4 rounds to the LONGEST CURRENT HW ROUND STREAK WITHOUT GOING DOWN. 442 straight HW rounds now. He has passed Oliver McCall and only trails the 501 rounds of George Chuvalo for the all time HW rounds without going down streak. Even when he is huge his chin is always a very top of the line tool in the boxing tool box. Definitely one of the best of all times.

He's too big there though. At 300 pounds we could do something. I want to toss him into the red white and blue trunks. I then want to place a bounty on him of 10 grand. Then I want to tour him as King of The 4 Rounders. Chauncy "The Bounty Hunted" Welliver. 10 grand to any man who can put him on the canvas. 60 more rounds to the all time HW round streak without going down record. 15 or more 4 rounders run. That could be a fun and profitable run if marketed right even out of small and mid sized venues. I Am Iron Man!

The ref has waved him off. He's been stopped on cuts and a couple times with arm injuries. No legit knock downs have ever been taken though. If he needs to make some money there are better angles than taking on undefeated prospects so out of shape. He can win and make money while taking sole possession of the HW round streak record.

[Tony1244]

Really stupid comparison as Chuvalo and McCall fought the best. Welliver? Not so much. It's also likely bullish!t as old time fighters probably went many more rounds on their feet against club fighters.

[Verdi]

Well I watched the fight on youtube. Add another 4 rounds to the LONGEST CURRENT HW ROUND STREAK WITHOUT GOING DOWN. 442 straight HW rounds now. He has passed Oliver McCall and only trails the 501 rounds of George Chuvalo for the all time HW rounds without going down streak. Even when he is huge his chin is always a very top of the line tool in the boxing tool box. Definitely one of the best of all times.

He's too big there though. At 300 pounds we could do something. I want to toss him into the red white and blue trunks. I then want to place a bounty on him of 10 grand. Then I want to tour him as King of The 4 Rounders. Chauncy "The Bounty Hunted" Welliver. 10 grand to any man who can put him on the canvas. 60 more rounds to the all time HW round streak without going down record. 15 or more 4 rounders run. That could be a fun and profitable run if marketed right even out of small and mid sized venues. I Am Iron Man!

The ref has waved him off. He's been stopped on cuts and a couple times with arm injuries. No legit knock downs have ever been taken though. If he needs to make some money there are better angles than taking on undefeated prospects so out of shape. He can win and make money while taking sole possession of the HW round streak record.

that's a pretty cool statistic.

[Tony1244]

Well I watched the fight on youtube. Add another 4 rounds to the LONGEST CURRENT HW ROUND STREAK WITHOUT GOING DOWN. 442 straight HW rounds now. He has passed Oliver McCall and only trails the 501 rounds of George Chuvalo for the all time HW rounds without going down streak. Even when he is huge his chin is always a very top of the line tool in the boxing tool box. Definitely one of the best of all times.

He's too big there though. At 300 pounds we could do something. I want to toss him into the red white and blue trunks. I then want to place a bounty on him of 10 grand. Then I want to tour him as King of The 4 Rounders. Chauncy "The Bounty Hunted" Welliver. 10 grand to any man who can put him on the canvas. 60 more rounds to the all time HW round streak without going down record. 15 or more 4 rounders run. That could be a fun and profitable run if marketed right even out of small and mid sized venues. I Am Iron Man!

The ref has waved him off. He's been stopped on cuts and a couple times with arm injuries. No legit knock downs have ever been taken though. If he needs to make some money there are better angles than taking on undefeated prospects so out of shape. He can win and make money while taking sole possession of the HW round streak record.

that's a pretty cool statistic.

I respect anyone for even getting into the ring. Welliver should be very proud of being a fighter, winning more times than losing, and for being one of the most durable heavyweights of his era, or of any era frankly. If you thought a but was coming, you're right.

But if you looked at every HW since the dawn of Queensbury, I am far from certain he has the record Kronk claims.

I have all the respect in the world for Welliver's record as a HW. But no real boxing fan ever thought he was in the top 10 in the division, the very crooked alphabets notwithstanding.

His weight problems are obviously severe.

[Kronkpride]

Really stupid comparison as Chuvalo and McCall fought the best. Welliver? Not so much. It's also likely bullish!t as old time fighters probably went many more rounds on their feet against club fighters.

Well it cannot be denied that Chuvalo and McCall did face better opposition. Welliver did not face a total walk in the park though. Lucas Browne won a version of the WBA strap and is a pretty big hitter. Odlanier Solis is an Olympic Gold Medalist. Alexander Ustinov was a world rated contender. David Bostice, John Seargent, Kyotaro Fujimoto, Tank Williams, Cassius Chaney, and Rob Calloway are all above solid HW tests. Every HW can hit though and Welliver has had his chin tested quite a bit by his whole list of opponents. His chin definitely has plenty of evidence for being legit as one of the best ever.

He got stopped against Solis when Solis was undefeated....on his feet without going down. He actually made Solis pretty embarrassed on the Vitali Klitschko comeback card with all the great HW champs there in attendance. That was a bad stoppage. He got stopped on cuts by Lucas Browne. The cut came from a head butt that was not called and he was pummeled while blinded a serious number of times before the stoppage and Browne could do nothing to him with all those free shots. The losses against Billy Wright and Cassius Chaney are the 2 arm injuries. Never once down to anybody.

Chuvalo has 501 rounds. Welliver has 442 rounds and McCall has 436 rounds. If he goes for the record a fight should be made with McCall to be part of the streak. Going the 4 round route could make the bouts really exciting and bringing in named heavy hitters to finish the streak would be the just route to go. Shannon Briggs comes to mind. Joseph Parker and Junior Fa could be nice opponents after each gets their next respective loss. Rematch with Browne would be nice. I'd match him with David Price in the UK. More up and coming undefeated prospects could also try to do the impossible and put him down. If you market it right and establish the cause of going for the streak then there are lots of good fights to be made. Chauncy has the skills to fight against the best and hold his own anytime he is around 300 pounds. Even right now being way over that I don't see anybody on Earth that can put him down in 4 rounds. Being lighter though is much better for him dishing out his own punishment and would make the pedal to the metal 4 rounders much more exciting with good 2 way action going on the whole way.

Somebody tell Eddie Hearn to get ahold of me. Welliver is ready to walk through anybody Matchroom can match him up with and anybody else Matchroom can sign up to try to break the streak. Welliver and the streak would be a nice novelty to add to the consistent line of shows he puts on. Establish the streak and the quest with the fans and put good opponents in the opposite corner and people will be interested. I can probably teach Eddie a few things about marketing fighters along the way as well.

[Kronkpride]

Well I watched the fight on youtube. Add another 4 rounds to the LONGEST CURRENT HW ROUND STREAK WITHOUT GOING DOWN. 442 straight HW rounds now. He has passed Oliver McCall and only trails the 501 rounds of George Chuvalo for the all time HW rounds without going down streak. Even when he is huge his chin is always a very top of the line tool in the boxing tool box. Definitely one of the best of all times.

He's too big there though. At 300 pounds we could do something. I want to toss him into the red white and blue trunks. I then want to place a bounty on him of 10 grand. Then I want to tour him as King of The 4 Rounders. Chauncy "The Bounty Hunted" Welliver. 10 grand to any man who can put him on the canvas. 60 more rounds to the all time HW round streak without going down record. 15 or more 4 rounders run. That could be a fun and profitable run if marketed right even out of small and mid sized venues. I Am Iron Man!

The ref has waved him off. He's been stopped on cuts and a couple times with arm injuries. No legit knock downs have ever been taken though. If he needs to make some money there are better angles than taking on undefeated prospects so out of shape. He can win and make money while taking sole possession of the HW round streak record.

that's a pretty cool statistic.

I respect anyone for even getting into the ring. Welliver should be very proud of being a fighter, winning more times than losing, and for being one of the most durable heavyweights of his era, or of any era frankly. If you thought a but was coming, you're right.

But if you looked at every HW since the dawn of Queensbury, I am far from certain he has the record Kronk claims.

I have all the respect in the world for Welliver's record as a HW. But no real boxing fan ever thought he was in the top 10 in the division, the very crooked alphabets notwithstanding.

His weight problems are obviously severe.

He 100% has the record I claim. THE LONGEST CURRENT HW ROUND STREAK WITHOUT GOING DOWN. 442 straight HW rounds. McCall last fought in May 2019. He is at 436 straight HW rounds. Nobody else active has anywhere near their rounds.

The record you question is the one I say Chuvalo has. 501 straight HW rounds without going down. I say it is the all time record. That may be wrong but we are here on Boxrec where the most boxing record history in the world is held. Can any boxrec sleuths find anybody in history having more than the 501 straight HW rounds without going down of George Chuvalo?

I do concede that it is possible somebody else has done more. Boxing has a massively long history and things are more blurry the farther you go back. If we have to we can add the asterisk of going for the record as going for the MODERN HW RECORD OF MOST CONSECUTIVE ROUNDS WITHOUT GOING DOWN.

[margaret thatcher]

Chauncey obviously has a really good chin, does him more harm than good though

[margaret thatcher]

Hey Chaunce, if you see this, who hit you the hardest?

[Kronkpride]

Tony saying that nobody ever thought Welliver was Top 10 at HW and that the ABC rankings are a sham.

Chauncy was #5 WBC to Vitali Klitschko and #5 WBO to Wlad Klitschko at the same time. #5 to every belt in the world as those 2 brothers held all the titles.

Those organizations have ranking systems. They reward people for fighting for and defending their regional belts. So....IF YOU ARE A FAT GUY WITH A ROCK SOLID CHIN...and nobody wants to volunteer to fight you as they all look stupid for not being able to KO a fat guy then you have to hustle for opportunities. Or any other guy out there looking for a crack at the titles.

Chauncy won a bunch of their belts and defended them all over the world and got in line and waited. He was so close and always willing and able to fill in for injuries short term. He went after the champions. Put in more effort trying to fight them than any other of his time. He actually earned his #5 WBC and WBO rankings unlike many other people who have been ranked by them. That is how you climb your way into the game when you are locked out. Put your name in the hat and keep defending and winning until you get a call for an eliminator or title shot.

[oogiebe]

Tony saying that nobody ever thought Welliver was Top 10 at HW and that the ABC rankings are a sham.

Chauncy was #5 WBC to Vitali Klitschko and #5 WBO to Wlad Klitschko at the same time. #5 to every belt in the world as those 2 brothers held all the titles.

Those organizations have ranking systems. They reward people for fighting for and defending their regional belts. So....IF YOU ARE A FAT GUY WITH A ROCK SOLID CHIN...and nobody wants to volunteer to fight you as they all look stupid for not being able to KO a fat guy then you have to hustle for opportunities. Or any other guy out there looking for a crack at the titles.

Chauncy won a bunch of their belts and defended them all over the world and got in line and waited. He was so close and always willing and able to fill in for injuries short term. He went after the champions. Put in more effort trying to fight them than any other of his time. He actually earned his #5 WBC and WBO rankings unlike many other people who have been ranked by them. That is how you climb your way into the game when you are locked out. Put your name in the hat and keep defending and winning until you get a call for an eliminator or title shot.

Chauncy was never anything to talk about. Pure column fodder.

[Enlightened-One]

Tony saying that nobody ever thought Welliver was Top 10 at HW and that the ABC rankings are a sham.

Chauncy was #5 WBC to Vitali Klitschko and #5 WBO to Wlad Klitschko at the same time. #5 to every belt in the world as those 2 brothers held all the titles.

Those organizations have ranking systems.

Chauncey was never regarded as a top-ten world-rated heavyweight.

Pretending that he was, simply because the sports' governing bodies rated him, is like making the equivalent claim that Tom Schwarz is currently a top-ten heavyweight based purely on the IBF's ratings.

It's also the same as saying that Fres Oquendo is currently a top-fifteen heavyweight based on his WBA ranking, but in reality, he probably isn't even a top fifty fighter.

The same rule applies to Christopher Lovejoy.

[oogiebe]

Tony saying that nobody ever thought Welliver was Top 10 at HW and that the ABC rankings are a sham.

Chauncy was #5 WBC to Vitali Klitschko and #5 WBO to Wlad Klitschko at the same time. #5 to every belt in the world as those 2 brothers held all the titles.

Those organizations have ranking systems.

Chauncey was never regarded as a top-ten world-rated heavyweight.

Pretending that he was, simply because the sports' governing bodies rated him, is like making the equivalent claim that Tom Schwarz is currently a top-ten heavyweight based purely on the IBF's ratings.

It's also the same as saying that Fres Oquendo is currently a top-fifteen heavyweight based on his WBA ranking, but in reality, he probably isn't even a top fifty fighter.

The same rule applies to Christopher Lovejoy.

100%. Your best post!