Could Tim Tszyu teach Errol Spence the chicken dance?

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Could Tim Tszyu teach Errol Spence the chicken dance?

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I recall the bout when Zab Judah met up with Kostya Tszyu. At the time Zab was regarded as a future superstar, he had blown through many good jr ww champions and looked quite impressive, the boy had alot of natrual talent but then he most Kostya and boy did it cost him.

Comparing Errol to Zab well both are southpaws, one blew through good competition while looking impressive while the other one is a manufactured fraud thats been fighting cherry picked leftovers and simply blows.

Most predicted a Zab win over Kostya and yet the fight ended with a chicken dance. Could Tim teach Errol the lost art of chicken dancing?
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Tim may not be ripe yet for turning the likes of Spence into poultry. He looked like a bonafide killing machine against Horn, but my guess is so would Spence. This would be a great fight in the future. I like where you’re going.
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Gotta see more of Tszyu at the higher level. Horn was the gate there. Now we can only say, that he is worthy to compete there, but to predict the matchups against the very top opposition, it's necessary to see him against somebody else first.
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No. He isn't quite his father and Spence definitely looks to be shaping up to be better than Judah and 100% has shown a better chin and stamina.
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Tszyu would get a condensed Phillips style beatdown is more like it
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Not really
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Spence is better than his dad.
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This mostly just seems anti-Spence.
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squiggy wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 19:56 This mostly just seems anti-Spence.
I can’t blame anyone for thinking Errol is overrated.
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bobcatbox wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 20:32
squiggy wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 19:56 This mostly just seems anti-Spence.
I can’t blame anyone for thinking Errol is overrated.
Errol is overrated, because he is often picked over Crawford. But anyway he is a solid #2. Hopefully, their fight happens soon and no argument remains.
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DrDuke wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 10:18
bobcatbox wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 20:32
squiggy wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 19:56 This mostly just seems anti-Spence.
I can’t blame anyone for thinking Errol is overrated.
Errol is overrated, because he is often picked over Crawford. But anyway he is a solid #2. Hopefully, their fight happens soon and no argument remains.
Yes, please! In my opinion the welterweight division today is down in general from where we were in the late 2000s-2010s. The only fights that really, really excites me at 147 is Spence-Crawford, Old Pac vs either one, or Shawn Porter vs Crawford. And none of them look close to being made, right?
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bobcatbox wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 12:26
DrDuke wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 10:18
bobcatbox wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 20:32

I can’t blame anyone for thinking Errol is overrated.
Errol is overrated, because he is often picked over Crawford. But anyway he is a solid #2. Hopefully, their fight happens soon and no argument remains.
Yes, please! In my opinion the welterweight division today is down in general from where we were in the late 2000s-2010s. The only fights that really, really excites me at 147 is Spence-Crawford, Old Pac vs either one, or Shawn Porter vs Crawford. And none of them look close to being made, right?
Right, unfortunately.
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squiggy wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 19:56 This mostly just seems anti-Spence.
Guilty as charged. Put Tim in there to put an end to the fraud.
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bobcatbox wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 12:26
DrDuke wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 10:18
bobcatbox wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 20:32

I can’t blame anyone for thinking Errol is overrated.
Errol is overrated, because he is often picked over Crawford. But anyway he is a solid #2. Hopefully, their fight happens soon and no argument remains.
Yes, please! In my opinion the welterweight division today is down in general from where we were in the late 2000s-2010s. The only fights that really, really excites me at 147 is Spence-Crawford, Old Pac vs either one, or Shawn Porter vs Crawford. And none of them look close to being made, right?
There were better top level guys in that era so you saw alot of them fighting each other but in terms of the cream of the crop not fighting each other this era is no different than that era. We waited what 6 years for may-pac to happen? If Spence and Crawford fight in 2021 that will be a far less wait for the top 2 guys in this era at 147 to fight each other. But probably will be the same they wanna build it and wait til fans get frustrated to the point where they feel the fight will never happen and swear they won't buy the fight even if it does happen which is a lie.
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sykessta wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 02:41We waited what 6 years for may-pac to happen? If Spence and Crawford fight in 2021 that will be a far less wait for the top 2 guys in this era at 147 to fight each other. But probably will be the same they wanna build it and wait til fans get frustrated to the point where they feel the fight will never happen and swear they won't buy the fight even if it does happen which is a lie.
There’s no imminent possibility of Crawford facing Spence Jr. within the next six months.

And Bob Arum has also kept promising to the media that he was planning to make the Crawford-Pacquiao bout since 2015, but by his own admission, he’s never submitted any offers.

Let’s not forget that Pacquiao was actually a fellow Top Rank stablemate of Crawford’s until the end of 2018 (less than two years ago), so there were no political hurdles preventing that bout from being made.

Times haven’t changed. Cross-promotional bouts are still notoriously difficult to make.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 03:58
sykessta wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 02:41We waited what 6 years for may-pac to happen? If Spence and Crawford fight in 2021 that will be a far less wait for the top 2 guys in this era at 147 to fight each other. But probably will be the same they wanna build it and wait til fans get frustrated to the point where they feel the fight will never happen and swear they won't buy the fight even if it does happen which is a lie.
There’s no imminent possibility of Crawford facing Spence Jr. within the next six months.

And Bob Arum has also kept promising to the media that he was planning to make the Crawford-Pacquiao bout since 2015, but by his own admission, he’s never submitted any offers.

Let’s not forget that Pacquiao was actually a fellow Top Rank stablemate of Crawford’s until the end of 2018 (less than two years ago), so there were no political hurdles preventing that bout from being made.

Times haven’t changed. Cross-promotional bouts are still notoriously difficult to make.
Yea that was Bob using Pac's name to keep Crawford relevant. He didn't want to use manny as a sacrifice that early to make Crawford a star since Manny still had the potential to make more money than Crawford. If Manny was still with TR to this day I doubt the fight would have been made until Manny had shown he had nothing left as far as world class level competition. Say he had lost to Thurman and was still with TR, then the fight may have been made but imo they would have kept milking Manny until he lost while using his and Errol's name to keep Crawford's name in the media while he fights lesser known competition then fight Manny as a farewell bout to catapult him into stardom. But yea I doubt Spence and Crawford fight until 2023-24 still not enough money to make between them.
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I don’t think tszyu looked particularly good against Horn.
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Back on topic. Just watched the highlights, Tsyzu didn't look that great but it's hard to tell with Horn's style. My god I forgot all about how he fights. Would be nice to see him knocked cold.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 17:39 Spence is better than his dad.
Spence better than Kostya? Are you for real?
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Riddick Blowe wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 17:10 I don’t think tszyu looked particularly good against Horn.
I like Tim and I think he will do well. But, Kostya had excellent speed early years and his power was off the scale.

I hope I’m wrong but I think Tim wont be as good as his dad.
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Loki wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 18:43
Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 17:39 Spence is better than his dad.
Spence better than Kostya? Are you for real?
What's so unreal about that?
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Loki wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 18:43
Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 17:39 Spence is better than his dad.
Spence better than Kostya? Are you for real?
I'm not for fake.
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Loki wrote: 01 Sep 2020, 18:43
Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 17:39 Spence is better than his dad.
Spence better than Kostya? Are you for real?
Very clearly better IMO. Tszyu Sr was good but pretty overrated.
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DrDuke wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 10:18
bobcatbox wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 20:32
squiggy wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 19:56 This mostly just seems anti-Spence.
I can’t blame anyone for thinking Errol is overrated.
Errol is overrated, because he is often picked over Crawford. But anyway he is a solid #2. Hopefully, their fight happens soon and no argument remains.
Until they fight, saying either Crawford or Spence is over-rated seems silly to me. Who do you think has the better resume at 147? Whoever you pick, call the other guy over-rated, like that really matters.
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Bandog wrote: 02 Sep 2020, 09:46
DrDuke wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 10:18
bobcatbox wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 20:32

I can’t blame anyone for thinking Errol is overrated.
Errol is overrated, because he is often picked over Crawford. But anyway he is a solid #2. Hopefully, their fight happens soon and no argument remains.
Until they fight, saying either Crawford or Spence is over-rated seems silly to me. Who do you think has the better resume at 147? Whoever you pick, call the other guy over-rated, like that really matters.
As if Crawford came from 126 and not from the nearby division. Crawford's game is much more ingenious. Spence is excellent in fundamental area and technique, while Crawford in addition to that stuff has superior boxing IQ, he is more elusive. There are always stakes and up to the date Crawford should be more favorable.
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