Which UFC lightweights could put up a better fight against Floyd?

[Wee Tommy]

Ford has no hands and Mercer was a boxer.

Mans a lunatic

[littlepug]

Doesn’t matter how good the MMA guys are at striking because boxing is a completely different skill set, the footwork and upper body movement are the foundation for everything in boxing and takes years to master, they cant compete and visa versa

mma guys are also training in boxing professionally, in fact, I would say boxing + grappling / takedown defenses are the most important 2 things in mma.

But I agree it's a different boxing because you need to watch out for kicks and takedowns while boxing in mma, but we've seen former professional mma fighters such as Ray Mercer, Ryan Ford, Fábio Maldonado turned out to be really good pro boxers as well, so I wouldn't talk certain.

They don’t train for hands only which completely changes your feet and general shape, look at McGregor v Floyd he didn’t have a clue how to stand and shift his weight to punch or for defence, that’s a boxers bread and butter

[Tevfik1907]

Doesn’t matter how good the MMA guys are at striking because boxing is a completely different skill set, the footwork and upper body movement are the foundation for everything in boxing and takes years to master, they cant compete and visa versa

mma guys are also training in boxing professionally, in fact, I would say boxing + grappling / takedown defenses are the most important 2 things in mma.

But I agree it's a different boxing because you need to watch out for kicks and takedowns while boxing in mma, but we've seen former professional mma fighters such as Ray Mercer, Ryan Ford, Fábio Maldonado turned out to be really good pro boxers as well, so I wouldn't talk certain.

They don’t train for hands only which completely changes your feet and general shape, look at McGregor v Floyd he didn’t have a clue how to stand and shift his weight to punch or for defence, that’s a boxers bread and butter

Conor's counter striking style with mma gloves is unorthodox boxing even for mma, so that's not the right example because he can't be equally effective striker with regular boxing gloves considering his one precise hit style with mma gloves, Conor doesn't have the stamina for long fights, Conor doesn't win his fights by tiring his opponent, and Conor doesn't win his fights with regular jabs and regular punches. Which is why I believe, the other mma fighters have the potential to put up a better fight than Conor. And comparing even a regular boxer's skill to Floyd's boxing skills wouldn't be fair. There are only few boxers with Floyd's skills, they don't need to be that skilled to be a good boxer.

[Tevfik1907]

Ford has no hands and Mercer was a boxer.

I have no idea what's that nonsense about Ford, he is a good boxer. Also dodging from Fábio now hater?

[Onetimeonly]

Dodging what from Fabio? He was a boxer that made the transition, he wasn't particularly good at either. Ford I don't remember, I was thinking of Ryan hall.

[detamour]

Justin is the only possible one. McGregor did better than most of the boxers he fought.

How about Tony Ferguson? That guy is incredibly tough, and he has a very long reach.

Also Khabib? Everyone underestimates his boxing, he almost KOed Conor in the second round with his right.



And Khabib is very tough too, he took this from Michael Johnson like its nothing. (Johnson is a southpaw)

So did 6ft 1 Tony pep and that helped right?

[nfc90210]

I would suspect that Khabib's boxing becomes a lot less effective when you remove the threat of the takedown.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I would suspect that Khabib's boxing becomes a lot less effective when you remove the threat of the takedown.

Think he boxed pretty well against McGregor. There was some points he just stood and traded.

[edsnowden]

Floyd has claimed he carried McGregor to keep MMA fans watching. Google it.

I don't think any of bouts with him are any good. Floyd is too technical.

[gilgamesh]

Floyd has claimed he carried McGregor to keep MMA fans watching. Google it.

I don't think any of bouts with him are any good. Floyd is too technical.

He definitely carried him. He didn't do it for MMA fans though. He did it because he hoped it if looked somewhat competitive people might actually be stupid enough to pay big money for a rematch.

[edsnowden]

Floyd has claimed he carried McGregor to keep MMA fans watching. Google it.

I don't think any of bouts with him are any good. Floyd is too technical.

He definitely carried him. He didn't do it for MMA fans though. He did it because he hoped it if looked somewhat competitive people might actually be stupid enough to pay big money for a rematch.

IMO Floyd is boring AF.

Awesome as a technician..... guy is supreme...... but dull. I always rooted against him.

[gilgamesh]

Floyd has claimed he carried McGregor to keep MMA fans watching. Google it.

I don't think any of bouts with him are any good. Floyd is too technical.

He definitely carried him. He didn't do it for MMA fans though. He did it because he hoped it if looked somewhat competitive people might actually be stupid enough to pay big money for a rematch.

IMO Floyd is boring AF.

Awesome as a technician..... guy is supreme...... but dull. I always rooted against him.

I've seen guys with more boring styles, but he's definitely probably the dullest Boxer to watch that ever got as famous as he got.

Goes to show how far getting so many people to want to see you lose can take you.

He's had some exciting fights here and there.

He was dazzling against Diego Corrales, Phillip Ndou and Arturo Gatti

His fights with Marcos Maidana (1st one), Castillo (1st one), Miguel Cotto, Zab Judah, Demarcus Corley were all good fights.

So he wasn't just all boring, all the time, but he's gotta be one of the most boring fighters ever to reach superstar status. He was damn good though so I didn't mind him more often than not.

I even enjoyed some of his boring fights, but that's because I was a Boxing junkie.

[p4p1]

It depends on what Floyd wants to do. Sure Conor snapped Mayweathers head back a few times when Floyd got lazy af and was in cruise control. It looked good but anyone who's fought or sparred against guys who are much worse than you has been caught off guard like Floyd was. On the flip side Floyd hit Conor whenever he wanted to at times hitting him with every pot shot he was throwing. Didn't bother training for the fight and took him out in the round that he bet on. If Floyd had have bet on a first round KO he likely would have gotten it. Conor's style was perfect for what Floyd wanted IMO. Conor wants to be on the outside where Floyd shines and doesn't have real one punch KO power. A guy who roughed him up on the inside and had limitless energy could potentially cause Floyd more problems but once Floyd realised he was in a fight he would just blast whoever it was out, like he did to Conor in the 10th.

[Tevfik1907]

Yeah, I accept your surrender

Also Poirier outboxed Gaethje, Gaethje only countered him with low kicks.

Poirier is solid. I truly believe he could put a better fight against Floyd due to having better cardio than Conor.

[p4p1]

Floyd has claimed he carried McGregor to keep MMA fans watching. Google it.

I don't think any of bouts with him are any good. Floyd is too technical.

He definitely carried him. He didn't do it for MMA fans though. He did it because he hoped it if looked somewhat competitive people might actually be stupid enough to pay big money for a rematch.

I got better odds betting on Floyd vs Conor than I got vs Berto. I added the Cotto vs Kamegai which was the same day to my bet and end up getting a +35-50% payout IIRC. From memory I bet everything I had on Floyd that weekend one way or another. All on the back of Conor's fans making the odds for a Floyd win exceptionally high. Can't blame Floyd for thinking about a rematch for that kind of money against a guy who isn't good enough to be a sparring partner. It was a one of chance for everybody but Conor fans to make money that weekend.

[gilgamesh]

Floyd has claimed he carried McGregor to keep MMA fans watching. Google it.

I don't think any of bouts with him are any good. Floyd is too technical.

He definitely carried him. He didn't do it for MMA fans though. He did it because he hoped it if looked somewhat competitive people might actually be stupid enough to pay big money for a rematch.

I got better odds betting on Floyd vs Conor than I got vs Berto. I added the Cotto vs Kamegai which was the same day to my bet and end up getting a +35-50% payout IIRC. From memory I bet everything I had on Floyd that weekend one way or another. All on the back of Conor's fans making the odds for a Floyd win exceptionally high. Can't blame Floyd for thinking about a rematch for that kind of money against a guy who isn't good enough to be a sparring partner. It was a one of chance for everybody but Conor fans to make money that weekend.

Smart bet. I would've done the same.

[Tevfik1907]

Floyd has claimed he carried McGregor to keep MMA fans watching. Google it.

I don't think any of bouts with him are any good. Floyd is too technical.

He definitely carried him. He didn't do it for MMA fans though. He did it because he hoped it if looked somewhat competitive people might actually be stupid enough to pay big money for a rematch.

Teddy Atlas recently said that Floyd didn't carry the Conor fight, and Conor legitimately won a couple of rounds, what do you think?

[gilgamesh]

Floyd has claimed he carried McGregor to keep MMA fans watching. Google it.

I don't think any of bouts with him are any good. Floyd is too technical.

He definitely carried him. He didn't do it for MMA fans though. He did it because he hoped it if looked somewhat competitive people might actually be stupid enough to pay big money for a rematch.

Teddy Atlas recently said that Floyd didn't carry the Conor fight, and Conor legitimately won a couple of rounds, what do you think?

You see the post you quoted. That's what I think.

[Wee Tommy]

Floyd has claimed he carried McGregor to keep MMA fans watching. Google it.

I don't think any of bouts with him are any good. Floyd is too technical.

He definitely carried him. He didn't do it for MMA fans though. He did it because he hoped it if looked somewhat competitive people might actually be stupid enough to pay big money for a rematch.

Teddy Atlas recently said that Floyd didn't carry the Conor fight, and Conor legitimately won a couple of rounds, what do you think?

Teddy won the Adirondacks golden gloves. Nuff said.

[Counter-puncher]