The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time

[elmersalsa]

Your thoughts about this great Mexican fighter, Erik "El Terrible" Morales.

[Onetimeonly]

Maidana was a defining fight. Canelo is a 4 division 'champion'. So is Marquez.

[gilgamesh]

Your thoughts about this great Mexican fighter, Erik "El Terrible" Morales.

I absolutely adore Morales. When I first started watching the sport, he was one of the guys that immediately jumped out at me as "Holy sh*t, never a dull fight with this guy, and he takes on everybody"

The fights with Barrera, his win over Pac, some solid wins at 130.

I enjoyed his career a lot, what I caught of it. In fact I owe it to myself to watch more of his fights from prior to my days as a fan.

And yes his fight with Maidana was a great achievement for him even though he came up on the losing end. He gave a tremendous effort, and further enhanced his legacy with that performance.

Sometimes even a loss can be a highlight like that, when your best qualities are still shown even in defeat.

I was genuinely upset at the way he was beaten in the 3rd Pac fight. I had a hard time watching that one.

I've cared about few fighters the way I cared about Morales. One of my favorites for sure. A Legend.

[gilgamesh]

Maidana was a defining fight. Canelo is a 4 division 'champion'. So is Marquez.

What would you say are his key performances I should catch Pre-2001?

That's the year I started following Boxing ya see. I saw the Injin Chi fight from that year, and of course Barrera 1 from 2000, but I don't think I've seen many others, and I'm sure that was probably Morales at his finest.

[elmersalsa]

Maidana was a defining fight. Canelo is a 4 division 'champion'. So is Marquez.

El Terrible was the first from Mexico to ever done it.

[Onetimeonly]

Maidana was a defining fight. Canelo is a 4 division 'champion'. So is Marquez.

El Terrible was the first from Mexico to ever done it.

You said first and only.

[gilgamesh]

Maidana was a defining fight. Canelo is a 4 division 'champion'. So is Marquez.

El Terrible was the first from Mexico to ever done it.

What was his 4th weight class where he won a title?

I don't recall a 4th.

[Onetimeonly]

Maidana was a defining fight. Canelo is a 4 division 'champion'. So is Marquez.

El Terrible was the first from Mexico to ever done it.

What was his 4th weight class where he won a title?

I don't recall a 4th.

He was gifted one vs cano.

[gilgamesh]

El Terrible was the first from Mexico to ever done it.

What was his 4th weight class where he won a title?

I don't recall a 4th.

He was gifted one vs cano.

Ahh right. I didn't even remember a title being on the line there. Was it interim or an actual World title belt?

Either way it was clearly just something where they wanted him to have it so made an excuse to give him one.

[Onetimeonly]

What was his 4th weight class where he won a title?

I don't recall a 4th.

He was gifted one vs cano.

Ahh right. I didn't even remember a title being on the line there. Was it interim or an actual World title belt?

Either way it was clearly just something where they wanted him to have it so made an excuse to give him one.

I stopped tracking them long before that. Only reason I didn't question this is because I remember Erik losing it on the scales against Danny.

[Jaywheel]

Still. 4 weight classes is a lot. Only two less than the great Golden Boy.

[cfang]

Your thoughts about this great Mexican fighter, Erik "El Terrible" Morales.

I absolutely adore Morales. When I first started watching the sport, he was one of the guys that immediately jumped out at me as "Holy sh*t, never a dull fight with this guy, and he takes on everybody"

The fights with Barrera, his win over Pac, some solid wins at 130.

I enjoyed his career a lot, what I caught of it. In fact I owe it to myself to watch more of his fights from prior to my days as a fan.

And yes his fight with Maidana was a great achievement for him even though he came up on the losing end. He gave a tremendous effort, and further enhanced his legacy with that performance.

Sometimes even a loss can be a highlight like that, when your best qualities are still shown even in defeat.

I was genuinely upset at the way he was beaten in the 3rd Pac fight. I had a hard time watching that one.

I've cared about few fighters the way I cared about Morales. One of my favorites for sure. A Legend.

Ditto this. Morales one of my favourite fighters.

[elmersalsa]

On the undercard of Julio Cesar Chavez first fight with Oscar De La Hoya, there was this upcoming teenager and rising star out of Tijuana, Mexico named Erik "El Terrible" Morales.

He was stepping up in class when he risked his 23-0 record versus former super bantamweight champion Hector Acero-Sanchez of Dominican Republic, but raised in Brooklyn, NY. Acero-Sanchez was a defensive wizard with an outstanding record of 33-3-3.

The fight was mostly one-sided. Acero-Sanchez was a dissapointment. He was gun shy and didn't win a single round in my view. How could you win a round if you ain't throwing any punches. He just ate leather from El Terrible. I imagine the compubox tally. It would be surprising how many punches were thrown. Morales did all the fighting and the nineteen-year old improve his skills and record to 24-0. It was Morales 4th defense of his NABF Super Bantamweight crown.

Then Morales defended his NABF crown against Pedro Javier Torres of Argentina. It was a quick work in the second round when Morales stopped the young man with 3 vicious left hooks to the body. Morales was reminiscing us as a great fighter like Alexis Arguello. He is Tall and rangy for a super bantamweight class. About 5'8" in height to be exact.

Morales improves to 25-0.

[Jaywheel]

On the main card, Oscarito had to top a night where the great Butterbean, the great Cheato Corrales, Johnny Tapia and Erik Morales had already fought and won. At 21-0, Oscarito did not have the experience of Chavez. But he did something that  David Kamau, Craig Houk, Giovanni Parisi, Tony Lopez, Meldrick Taylor, Andy Holligan, Mike Powell, Pernell Whitaker, Terrence Alli, Silvio Walter Rojas, Greg Haugen, Marty Jakubowski, Bruce Pearson, Héctor Camacho, Frankie Mitchell, Angel Hernandez, Juan Soberanes Ramos, Ignacio Perdomo,Jorge Alberto Melian, Lonnie Smith, Tommy Small, John Duplessis, Kyung-Duk Ahn, Jaime Balboa, Russell Mosley, Akwei Addo, Meldrick Taylor, Alberto de las Mercedes Cortes, Sammy Fuentes, Ramon Aramburu, Rodolfo Batta, Kenny Vice, Roger Mayweather, José Luis Ramírez, Vernon Buchanan, Rafael Limón, Rodolfo Aguilar, Nicky Perez, Edwin Rosario, Danilo Cabrera, Francisco Tomas Da Cruz, Juan Laporte, Rocky Lockridge, Refugio Rojas, Faustino Martires Barrios, Roberto Collins Lindo, Jeff Bumpus, Dwight Pratchett, Roger Mayweather, Ruben Castillo, Manuel Hernandez, Mario Martínez, Delfino Mendoza, Ramon Avitia, Armando Flores, Adriano Arreola, Benjamin Abarca, Romero Sandoval, Javier Fragoso, Ernesto Herrera, Othoniel Lopezm, Jerry Lewis, Jerry Lewis, Jose Resendez, Santos Rodriguez, Gustavo Salgado, Juan Carlos Alvarado, Benny Abarca, Johnny Jensen, Carlos Bryant, Ramon Peraza, Jesús García, Ramon Luque, Manuel Vasquez, Jose Angel Medina, Jorge Ramirez, Daniel Felizardo, Jesus Cuate Lara, Daniel Martinez, Bobby Fernandez, Fidel Navarro, Victor Gamez, Eduardo Lalo Acosta, Miguel Ruiz, Julio Gaxiola, Roberto Flores, Andres Felix, Jesus Martinez, Jesus Cuate Lara, Miguel Cebrero, Tito Geraldo, Roberto Garcia, Ramon Flores, Fidencio Cebreros and Andres Felix couldn't do before him. With one less fight then Morales, he wasn't stepping up in class to fight an Acero-Sanchez, he was taking a giant leap in KNOCKING OUT Chavez!!!

[elmersalsa]

On the main card, Oscarito had to top a night where the great Butterbean, the great Cheato Corrales, Johnny Tapia and Erik Morales had already fought and won. At 21-0, Oscarito did not have the experience of Chavez. But he did something that  David Kamau, Craig Houk, Giovanni Parisi, Tony Lopez, Meldrick Taylor, Andy Holligan, Mike Powell, Pernell Whitaker, Terrence Alli, Silvio Walter Rojas, Greg Haugen, Marty Jakubowski, Bruce Pearson, Héctor Camacho, Frankie Mitchell, Angel Hernandez, Juan Soberanes Ramos, Ignacio Perdomo,Jorge Alberto Melian, Lonnie Smith, Tommy Small, John Duplessis, Kyung-Duk Ahn, Jaime Balboa, Russell Mosley, Akwei Addo, Meldrick Taylor, Alberto de las Mercedes Cortes, Sammy Fuentes, Ramon Aramburu, Rodolfo Batta, Kenny Vice, Roger Mayweather, José Luis Ramírez, Vernon Buchanan, Rafael Limón, Rodolfo Aguilar, Nicky Perez, Edwin Rosario, Danilo Cabrera, Francisco Tomas Da Cruz, Juan Laporte, Rocky Lockridge, Refugio Rojas, Faustino Martires Barrios, Roberto Collins Lindo, Jeff Bumpus, Dwight Pratchett, Roger Mayweather, Ruben Castillo, Manuel Hernandez, Mario Martínez, Delfino Mendoza, Ramon Avitia, Armando Flores, Adriano Arreola, Benjamin Abarca, Romero Sandoval, Javier Fragoso, Ernesto Herrera, Othoniel Lopezm, Jerry Lewis, Jerry Lewis, Jose Resendez, Santos Rodriguez, Gustavo Salgado, Juan Carlos Alvarado, Benny Abarca, Johnny Jensen, Carlos Bryant, Ramon Peraza, Jesús García, Ramon Luque, Manuel Vasquez, Jose Angel Medina, Jorge Ramirez, Daniel Felizardo, Jesus Cuate Lara, Daniel Martinez, Bobby Fernandez, Fidel Navarro, Victor Gamez, Eduardo Lalo Acosta, Miguel Ruiz, Julio Gaxiola, Roberto Flores, Andres Felix, Jesus Martinez, Jesus Cuate Lara, Miguel Cebrero, Tito Geraldo, Roberto Garcia, Ramon Flores, Fidencio Cebreros and Andres Felix couldn't do before him. With one less fight then Morales, he wasn't stepping up in class to fight an Acero-Sanchez, he was taking a giant leap in KNOCKING OUT Chavez!!!

Chavez was already washed up. That is not stepping up in class.

[Jaywheel]

Why don't you tell that to Willie Wise and Larry Lacoursiere.

[elmersalsa]

Why don't you tell that to Willie Wise and Larry Lacoursiere.

Chavez was superwashed up then

[elmersalsa]

Erik "El Terrible" Morales wins his 25th straight bout since turning pro in 1993 when he defeated Robbie "Machine Gun" Lovato of Santa Fe, NM.

It was a total mismatch from the start. The referee had to stop the fight twice for the ring doctor to examine a cut on Lovato's eye. Morales threw everything at Machine Gun in which I did not see in him nothing about a machine gun or uzi about, but a great chin. Lovato only had 10 fights up to the point and was a former Golden Gloves winner of New Mexico.

In El Terrible next fight, it was a better opponent. It was a Mexican journeyman named Concepcion Velasquez. Velasquez had a pro record of 21-17 with 12KOs. He had a six-fight losing streak. This was surely a tune up for Morales in line for a title shot.

Velasquez at least gave battle. He at least was a little better than Lovato. But, he got stopped in 8 rounds.

At 26-0, with 21KOs, El Terrible was ready for the title shot that he deserves.

[Counter-puncher]

On the main card, Oscarito had to top a night where the great Butterbean, the great Cheato Corrales, Johnny Tapia and Erik Morales had already fought and won. At 21-0, Oscarito did not have the experience of Chavez. But he did something that  David Kamau, Craig Houk, Giovanni Parisi, Tony Lopez, Meldrick Taylor, Andy Holligan, Mike Powell, Pernell Whitaker, Terrence Alli, Silvio Walter Rojas, Greg Haugen, Marty Jakubowski, Bruce Pearson, Héctor Camacho, Frankie Mitchell, Angel Hernandez, Juan Soberanes Ramos, Ignacio Perdomo,Jorge Alberto Melian, Lonnie Smith, Tommy Small, John Duplessis, Kyung-Duk Ahn, Jaime Balboa, Russell Mosley, Akwei Addo, Meldrick Taylor, Alberto de las Mercedes Cortes, Sammy Fuentes, Ramon Aramburu, Rodolfo Batta, Kenny Vice, Roger Mayweather, José Luis Ramírez, Vernon Buchanan, Rafael Limón, Rodolfo Aguilar, Nicky Perez, Edwin Rosario, Danilo Cabrera, Francisco Tomas Da Cruz, Juan Laporte, Rocky Lockridge, Refugio Rojas, Faustino Martires Barrios, Roberto Collins Lindo, Jeff Bumpus, Dwight Pratchett, Roger Mayweather, Ruben Castillo, Manuel Hernandez, Mario Martínez, Delfino Mendoza, Ramon Avitia, Armando Flores, Adriano Arreola, Benjamin Abarca, Romero Sandoval, Javier Fragoso, Ernesto Herrera, Othoniel Lopezm, Jerry Lewis, Jerry Lewis, Jose Resendez, Santos Rodriguez, Gustavo Salgado, Juan Carlos Alvarado, Benny Abarca, Johnny Jensen, Carlos Bryant, Ramon Peraza, Jesús García, Ramon Luque, Manuel Vasquez, Jose Angel Medina, Jorge Ramirez, Daniel Felizardo, Jesus Cuate Lara, Daniel Martinez, Bobby Fernandez, Fidel Navarro, Victor Gamez, Eduardo Lalo Acosta, Miguel Ruiz, Julio Gaxiola, Roberto Flores, Andres Felix, Jesus Martinez, Jesus Cuate Lara, Miguel Cebrero, Tito Geraldo, Roberto Garcia, Ramon Flores, Fidencio Cebreros and Andres Felix couldn't do before him. With one less fight then Morales, he wasn't stepping up in class to fight an Acero-Sanchez, he was taking a giant leap in KNOCKING OUT Chavez!!!

[elmersalsa]

Erik "El Terrible" Morales of Tijuana, Mexico, is a world champion. He gets his first world title when he dethroned countryman and future hall of famer Daniel Zaragoza, who was also a 4-time world champion.

It was Zaragoza's last fight if he loses. He did, but not without a fight. The fight was even until the 10th round when El Terrible took control with a wicked shot to the stomach.

It was over in the 11th, when the 39-year old Zaragoza went down from a straight right hand from Morales to the chest. The referee counted until 10 and there was a new WBC World Super Bantamweight Champion. His name is 21-year old Erik "El Terrible" Morales! A legend is born!

From thence, Morales defends the crown 9 times without losing it in the ring and vacates the title.

[Joel Day Daitch]

Davey Day must have been really truly one of the greatest, and most fan fans of present, haven't got a clue how good he was! He had over 250 fights, amateur/pro and never suffered a cut. Armstrong refused to fight him in a rematch, as Davey cut Hank up severely in their first fight, and had to be carried out of the ring still wearing his crown. Lou Ambers, also wouldn't give Davey a rematch, as Lou nearly was knocked out in their non-title first fight, and was robbed in a split decision. I noticed that Zivic is mentioned, he to avoided Mr. Day, I guess he remembers when Mr. Day cut him thoroughly up in the 1931 AAU. National tournament in MSG. If you care learn more on the Golden Age of Boxing and what it was like to be shun by all of Mike Jacobs house champions, go to Google search and put in, Davey Day Nailing Lou Ambers. There is another lot listed, Davey Day, Armstrong, Ambers, Canzoneri, Jenkins, Zivic. check both out. If any questions you are welcome to let me know. Have a good Day.

[elmersalsa]

Erik "El Terrible" Morales' first title defense of his WBC World Super Bantamweight crown was an easy one, but really not that easy.

His opponent was a 31-year old foe from Ireland fighting out of Chicago with a record of 25-1 with 18 knockout wins. His name is John Lowey.

Lowey won his first 21 fights. He did not beat anybody of note to get a title shot. Who did he beat? Nobody in my opinion. How did he got the title shot? I don't know. Because when Lowey stepped on in class, he lost to American and former Olympic and pro world champion Kennedy McKinney by knockout in 8.

Morales was making his first title defense in front of his hometown fans in Tijuana, Mexico. While he was on his knees for a prayer in his corner before the opening bell, when he just finished his prayers, Lowey came bumrushing like a hurricane to Terrible's corner. The Irishman did not come to fool around. Morales was a little eerie about the situation, but he settled down. Lowey, though, won the first round.

Morales won round 2. But, round 3 Morales suffered an accidental headbutt. In round 5, it happened again and Morales was way up in the scorecards. Lowey won round 6.

By round 7 El Terrible started throwing some wicked combinations to the body and clearly won the round. In round 8, Lowey could not answer the bell because he hurt his right hand. Morales wins by technical knockout.

Morales at 21, successfully defended his crown. It was easy, but not that easy against a rough and tough customer like Lowey that probably knew it was his only shot at the crown.

Morales improves to 28-0, with 22 knockouts.

[elmersalsa]

El Terrible successfully defended his crown again at the Auditorium of his hometown of Tijuana, Mexico. It seemed that he had to do it again because on his first defense against John Lowey of Ireland, the win was not as satisfying like the hometown crowd wanted. Too many cuts on Morales caused by headbutts and the ending was not that impressive due to Lowey quit on his stool.

This time, a challenger from Argentina came to Tijuana by the name of Remigio Daniel Molina. The fight was a total mismatch. But, I believe that that what the hometown crowd wanted. Molina received so many shots and he was overmatched in my view. El Terrible could have stopped him anytime. It was over in the 6th round. Too many punches to the face and the referee had to stop it. Morales successfully defended his crown by TKO.

On his third title defense, this time in Indio, CA, Morales successfully defended his crown against former Jr Bantamweight champion Jose Luis Bueno of Mexico City, Mexico. El Terrible looked impressive in stepping up in class and stopped Bueno in two rounds. The last punch was a terrifying right hook to the jaw. Bueno could have sleep there forever. He was not getting up.

Morales with these two wins, improved to 30-0 with 24KOs. Next for Morales? A title defense against dangerous and former world champion Junior Jones of Brooklyn, NY.

[elmersalsa]

Erik "El Terrible" Morales improves to 31-0 with 25 knockouts when he sank one of the BIG SHIPS of the 122lbs class in Junior Jones of Brooklyn, NY.

Jones, 29, was coming from a loss by knockout in the 4th from former world champion Kennedy McKinney of Memphis, TN. But, before losing to McKinney he scored one of the biggest upsets of the decade when he beat the great Marco Antonio Barrera of Mexico, not once, but twice!

Unbelievable how boxing could be. Fighter A beats fighter B and fighter C beats fighter A but loses to fighter B. McKinney beats Jones who beat Barrera twice and Barrera beats McKinney.

Then, later, Barrera wins the trilogy against El Terrible, but Jones beats Barrera twice and then El Terrible beats Jones twice. Is that an example of styles make fights? I don't believe that theory but also, it cannot be ignored.

Jones was 44-3 with 29KOs beforef facing Morales. And had a fantastic record of 34-0 with Mexican rivals?

Well, it was a great win for El Terrible and a step up in class for him. The fight was at the old Tijuana bullring. It was El Terrible's 5th straight win by knockout. The way he handled Jones, a big puncher himself, speaks a lot of volumes. Mexico is producing another super star of boxing in the making.

[elmersalsa]

El Terrible makes 2 more title defenses (6th overall) and has 8 straight wins by the way of knockout.

By this time, Morales is showing more versatility as a fighter. For example, in his last defense against fellow Mexican Juan Ramirez, he showed that he can box. It was not always trading shots with the opponents.

His way of throwing punches are not as wide as he used to do it. For example, on his 5th defense against Angel Chacon of Puerto Rico, Morales threw tight combinations and sent the Puerto Rican out of the ropes. He eliminated Chacon in only 2 rounds. Morales combinations were fast and on point. Accurate.

By this time, talks about a possible match with fellow countryman Marco Antonio Barrera was in the works.

Morales is undefeated at 33-0 with 27KOs.

The comparisons with the great Julio Cesar Chavez as Mexico's best ever began to surface.