Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

Who wins?

Poll ended at 26 Sep 2020, 11:51

Charlo - Decision
12
35%
Charlo - T/KO
4
12%
DRAW
2
6%
Derevyanchenko - T/KO
8
24%
Derevyanchenko - Decision
8
24%
 
Total votes: 34

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Re: Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

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Gotta go with Derevyanchenko here. Charlo wasn't convincing against Korobov, who was far more faded. Charlo will rely mostly on his punch in this bout. The judges will also be on Charlo's side, but I think, Derevyanchenko can do enough for a clear lead.
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Thomastearns wrote: 12 Sep 2020, 07:45
jujigatame wrote: 11 Sep 2020, 18:09 The price is ludicrous. None of these fights is a proper PPV main event. They could have just split this up into 2 cards to put on Fox/Showtime. PBC must be desperate for cash putting this on PPV.

More evidence that boxing needs to wake up and realise that the world has changed. There's been some strong evidence recently that the message is still not sinking in.

Post Covid 19 it's living in dreamland charging $75 for this.

For that kind of money they will now need to put on Wilder v AJ, GGG v Alvarez and Inoue v Casimero - all on the same bill.
I just read that TR is putting Lomachenko vs. Lopez on ESPN rather than PPV. PBC is really looking bad here.
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Haven't decided yet. 6 fight card, but college football, NBA & a big UFC fight means unlikely. I'd rather the ppv than uncompetitive affordable fights.
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Re: Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

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jujigatame wrote: 13 Sep 2020, 00:08
Thomastearns wrote: 12 Sep 2020, 07:45
jujigatame wrote: 11 Sep 2020, 18:09 The price is ludicrous. None of these fights is a proper PPV main event. They could have just split this up into 2 cards to put on Fox/Showtime. PBC must be desperate for cash putting this on PPV.

More evidence that boxing needs to wake up and realise that the world has changed. There's been some strong evidence recently that the message is still not sinking in.

Post Covid 19 it's living in dreamland charging $75 for this.

For that kind of money they will now need to put on Wilder v AJ, GGG v Alvarez and Inoue v Casimero - all on the same bill.
I just read that TR is putting Lomachenko vs. Lopez on ESPN rather than PPV. PBC is really looking bad here.
Yh it’s not even on the ESPN+, just plain old ESPN.

Gonna be missing out on PPV revenue and gate.
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Re: Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

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Not real good with computers but I think this is a link to open workouts for the Charlos that will occur on 9/14/2020.
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Re: Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

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I will not pay. 50 was my price point

75 is too much

Remember half of ppv revenue goes to tv carriers so...

They probably need at least 100k to breakeven. Im assuming the charlos are each making 1mm. Maybe they get it
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Re: Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

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Pbc cant generate ad revenues like espn can. Showtime has a budget and pbc pays their fighters more than they are worth.

The good news is if this completely flops this along with dazn going under will finally reset boxers salaries to reality. That is what needed to happen for big fights to happen again

For example hypothetically f spence can only make 2mm for garcia but 10mm for Crawford maybe fights like that get made
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Yea shit like Danny Garcia getting paid $1m to beat up Ivan Redkach is a problem. If you can get paid that much to fight no-hopers what is the point in making tough fights happen with regularity?
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Boxing has zero originality
In hopes boxing people actually still read message boards:

Better idea is to have a fight like gervonta vs leo. ONLY have that fight on ppv. Use showtime as lead in for undercard and charge 25 bucks for the main event.

Id bet sales of 300k or so. You get more viewers and more likely to get repeat ppv customers for long term fan growth
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When a ppv breaks even, does that mean the guys who put it on just avoided a loss but didnt actually make anything?
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margaret thatcher wrote: 14 Sep 2020, 14:09 When a ppv breaks even, does that mean the guys who put it on just avoided a loss but didnt actually make anything?
That’s what break even means.. :TU:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 14 Sep 2020, 14:09 When a ppv breaks even, does that mean the guys who put it on just avoided a loss but didnt actually make anything?
It means pbc didnt lose money. Obviously the point of any business is to turn a profit but i terms of actual operations pbc hasnt done that.
They have survived first on mayweathers purses, then waddell and reed and now fox sports underwriting losses. Even when they had a sure fire money maker like wilder v fury 2 they blew it by guaranteeing wilder 20mm
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Re: Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

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Jermall Charlo: I'm Running The Show At Middleweight

Jermall Charlo patiently sat back and listened to idle chatter suggesting he didn’t want any part of the top middleweights.

That said, his upcoming title defense versus Sergiy Derevyanchenko (13-2, 10KOs) was never about silencing his critics, but simply taking that first step toward his goal of middleweight supremacy.

“I’m smart, real strong, athletic… everything else you want to learn about me will come on September 26,” Charlo told Premier Boxing Champions’ Ray Flores during a virtual open workout in Houston ahead of his Showtime Pay-Per-View co-headliner at Mohegan Sun Casino in Uncasville, Connecticut. “For the fans who don’t give a sh*t about me, it’s on to the next one.”

Charlo’s competition level has come into question ever since moving up from junior middleweight, where he established himself as a top player. A title reign at 154 pounds including a decision win over former champ Austin Trout and a 5th round knockout of Julian Williams, who would later go on to become a unified titlist.

Five fights into his middleweight run, Charlo (30-0, 22KOs) hasn’t quite moved the needle. While perfect at the weight (5-0, 3KOs), the level of competition pales in comparison to where he once was at in his career. Even his title reign came under circumstances beyond his control, being handed a belt after his desired target, lineal middleweight champion Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez (53-1-2, 36KOs) turned in his WBC belt in exchange for the sanctioning body’s “Franchise” title status.

Two defenses have followed, including a 7th round stoppage of Dennis Hogan last December in Brooklyn, New York. At the time, Charlo was being groomed for a showdown with second-generation contender Chris Eubank Jr. When that didn’t pan out, the mandate to his handlers was to secure the toughest available challenge.

Ukraine’s Derevyanchenko has only lost on the title stage, dropping close decisions to Daniel Jacobs and Gennadiy Golovkin in separate title bids. The third time will not be the charm, insists Charlo who plans to send a message to the rest of the division.

“Buckle yo seatbelt. Yeah, buckle yo seatbelt. It’s liftoff,” promises Charlo. “Everyone that was doubting me, everyone who was thinking they wouldn’t get a turn, you’ll get yo chance. You just hold tight. I’m running the show (at middleweight). I’m driving the boat. I got the big boat, so y’all stay locked. The spaceship gonna take off. You better be on it. If not, you gonna get skipped over.

“We got too much going on to be playing with y’all. Where the rest of the belts at? Where are the rest of the belts at?”
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Charlo Brothers – ‘The Journey’ to SHO PPV

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Re: Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

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Im going in this one with Derevyanchenko. For Charlo, this is a stepping stone, but for Derevo this is last chance to do something big in boxing. Charlo is obviously a favorite, his power jab and accurate counterpunching can be real danger for coming forward volume punching boxer like Derevyanchenko. Still rooting for Sergey in this one.
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Fight Week! :box:
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Fight Picks: Jermall Charlo-Sergiy Derevyanchenko

The hard-hitting Jermall Charlo will put his WBC middleweight title on the line against what is arguably his most dangerous opponent to date, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, at the Mohegan Sun Casino in Uncasville, Connecticut on Saturday.

The highly anticipated showdown, along with twin brother Jermell Charlo’s 154-pound world title bout against Jeison Rosario, will be broadcast on Showtime pay-per-view, starting at 7:00 p.m. ET/ 4:00 p.m. PT.

Charlo, who is rated No. 3 by The Ring at 160 pounds, impressively ripped the IBF junior middleweight title from Cornelius Bundrage in three rounds in 2015. He made three defenses, including an impressive knockout of the previously unbeaten Julian Williams, before moving up to middleweight. The 30-year-old claimed the WBC interim belt before being upgraded to full titleholder when Canelo Alvarez was given the designation of “franchise champion” by that organization. (Editor’s Note: The Ring does not recognize the WBC franchise title.)

Derevyanchenko, who is rated No. 6 by The Ring, was a highly decorated amateur who represented the Ukraine at the 2008 Olympics in Beijing and claimed world championship bronze. Since making the transition to the professional ranks he has scored wins over Sam Soliman, Tureano Johnson and Jack Culcay. Derevyanchenko is 0-2 in world title fights, however, losing razor-thin decisions to Daniel Jacobs and Gennadiy Golovkin.

Will the rangier Charlo (30-0, 22 knockouts) be able to use his six-inch reach advantage to keep Derevyanchenko honest? How will the American react if Derevyanchenko (13-2, 10 KOs) is able to get inside and use his physicality? The Ukrainian is a habitually slow starter, so will he be able to get out of the gate faster and become a world titleholder at the third time of asking? Will the pressure of being the lead fighter on a PPV broadcast become detrimental for Charlo?

Online gambling group William Hill lists Charlo as a 4-7 (-175) favorite, while Derevyanchenko is priced at 11-8 (+138); the draw is 18/1 (+1800).

Here’s how the experts see it:

THE RING MAGAZINE/ RINGTV.COM

TOM GRAY: CHARLO UD
“I was initially going to roll with Derevyanchenko, but I’ve changed my mind. Timing is everything in this game and Derevyanchenko gave so much of himself in losing efforts against Jacobs and Golovkin. I just don’t think he can get the best out of himself for this fight and it will come down to right time-right place for Charlo, who’s an excellent fighter with a lot of tools.”

ANSON WAINWRIGHT: CHARLO UD
“Currently we don’t know for sure who is the better of the twins. I suspect Jermall, but Derevyanchenko is his acid test. Derevyanchenko is a top middleweight and he gave Jacobs and Golovkin all they could handle and then some. He had to get off the canvas in the first round in both fights, and the slow start ultimately cost him. He can ill afford a similar setback in this fight. Charlo may catch Derevyanchenko early, he may score a knockdown or two along the way, but unless Derevyanchenko has left something in the ring in his two previous title challenges, I think it he goes the distance. Charlo will be a step ahead and edge an excellent fight on the scorecards.”

LEE GROVES: CHARLO SD 12
“This is a difficult fight to call, for Derevyanchenko is capable of setting a hard pace that Charlo would be hard-pressed to handle and he’ll likely be the man moving forward, but Charlo boasts enormous shot-for-shot power and he still has the confidence of an undefeated fighter. Two factors will sway the fight Charlo’s way: First, he’s the better defender and Derveyanchenko has tasted a concerning percentage of his opponents’ power shots as of late. Second, Charlo’s accuracy compensates for his lack of volume, and Derevyanchenko has been dropped in two of his last three fights. It won’t be easy, for Derevyanchenko is likely getting his final crack at world honors and will fight like it, but Charlo, I believe will emerge with the points victory.”

RON BORGES: DEREVYANCHENKO SD
“Third time is the charm for Derevyanchenko after losing close decisions in title fights vs. GGG and Jacobs, the latter a split decision. He was dropped in the first round of both of those fights and won’t make that mistake a third time. Winning a decision in Connecticut won’t be easy but this time the judges give him not only his due but the WBC middleweight title. But not by much.”

MARTY MULCAHEY: CHARLO KO
“While not impossible to tell them apart, inside the ropes Jermall is the harder hitting of the duo despite paying more attention to defense even in search of the knockout. This will serve Charlo well with an aging, but still dangerous, Derevyanchenko who displayed determination in two title shots he lost by slim margins. Bottom line, at 34 and only having had 15 total fights, Derevyanchenko does not have the reflexes or one punch power to stop Jermall from dictating the action. This time Derevyanchenko does not overcome a slow start to bravely rally and is taken out by Charlo in the sixth to eighth round.”

MICHAEL MONTERO: CHARLO TKO
“On paper, this is a true 50-50 matchup. But Derevyanchenko is coming off 36 tough, hard-fought rounds against Daniel Jacobs, Jack Culcay and Gennady Golovkin. The Ukrainian absorbed well over 500 punches and was dropped twice in those three bouts. What does he have left? Charlo had issues with Matvey Korobov a couple years ago, but he’s a decent-sized middleweight southpaw. Against Derevyanchenko, Charlo will have noticeable height, reach, speed and power advantages. I favor Charlo by mid-late rounds stoppage.”

MICHAEL WOODS: CHARLO PTS
“It will seem like a bad dream for Derevyanchenko. He will win rounds against the favored A-side, as he did against Jacobs and Golovkin, but he will again see the other guy have his hand raised. Fight fans, decide now how good you think Derevyanchenko is, because Jermall won’t be pleased if he wins 7-5 or so, then sees people on social media saying, “Whatever, Derevyanchenko is almost 35 years old.’”

NORM FRAUENHEIM: DEREVYANCHENKO UD
“Derevyanchenko is called ‘The Technician’ for a reason. Many reasons. Jermall Charlo figures to see all of them in what looks to be a stylistic problem for the middleweight champion, who is unbeaten, yet has not faced anybody the caliber of Golovkin and Jacobs. Derevyanchenko has, losing debatable decisions to both. There’s a better argument that he beat GGG in 2019. GGG might be fading, but he still has power, more of it than Charlo. If the multi-skilled Derevyanchenko can elude and neutralize GGG’s feared power for 12 rounds, he’ll do the same against Charlo.”

Totals: Charlo 6 - 2
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Re: Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

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I’m so excited about this bout and it's interesting to see so many journalists from The RING siding with Charlo, in what is essentially a 50-50 fight.

That said, I will stick by the prediction I conveyed in another thread back in July:
Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Jul 2020, 04:07 Jermall Charlo’s handlers are obviously confident their man is capable of beating fellow Al Haymon stablemate Sergey Derevyanchenko, because this would only be a voluntary defence of his WBC title.

The Ukrainian is talented enough that neither Gennadiy Golovkin nor Danny Jacobs are eager to share the ring with him again.

Still, Derevyanchenko is on the cusp turning 35 years of age, and he’s had a few tough gruelling battles recently. And this may benefit the younger and fresher American.

Derevyanchenko might be quite a nervous fighter though because he was down in the first rounds of both of his razor-thin losses. His confidence seems to grow as fights progress.

And if he does that again with Charlo, he’ll be facing an uphill battle on the scorecards.

The American is a decent fighter, and a three-point swing round (due to Sergey suffering from a flash knockdown, despite owning the “winning” momentum) could have a significant impact on the outcome if the fight is incredibly competitive and difficult to score (as per the GGG & Jacobs bouts).
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Re: Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

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Charlo should win a close decision. Hes the house fighter so derevyanchenko would have to win handily or hurt him and I dont think he can do either
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Charlo-Derevyanchenko, Charlo-Rosario: Judges, Refs For Fights

UNCASVILLE, Connecticut – Veteran New Jersey judge Steve Weisfeld will work both title fights involving the Charlo twins in their pay-per-view debuts Saturday night.

Boxing Scene has been informed that Weisfeld, who is widely viewed as one of boxing’s best judges, has been assigned to score the Jermall Charlo-Sergiy Derevyanchenko middleweight title fight, as well as the 154-pound championship unification bout between Jermell Charlo and Jeison Rosario. Nevada’s Tim Cheatham and Oklahoma’s David Sutherland also have been assigned to judge Charlo-Derevyanchenko, a 12-round fight for Charlo’s WBC middleweight title.

Cheatham is generally regarded as a consistently accurate judge as well.

In the biggest fight Sutherland judged recently, he scored Mikey Garcia just a one-point winner over Jessie Vargas (114-113) in their 12-rounder February 29 in Frisco, Texas. The two other judges – Cathy Leonard and Steve Morrow – each scored that fight 116-111 for Garcia.

Sutherland has judged a fight apiece involving Derevyanchenko and Charlo, too.

He had Derevyanchenko ahead, 109-100, before he stopped Tureano Johnson in the 12th round in August 2017. Sutherland later scored Jermall Charlo a 119-109 victor versus Brandon Adams in June 2019.

Both of those scores were in line with how the other judges saw those fights.

New Jersey’s Harvey Dock, who also ranks as one of the sport’s top officials, will be the referee for the Charlo-Derevyanchenko and Charlo-Rosario bouts.

Connecticut’s Glenn Feldman and New York’s John McKaie will join Weisfeld to comprise the judging panel for the Charlo-Rosario fight.

Like McKaie, Feldman is a respected judge, though he did score Rolando Romero a 116-112 winner against Jackson Marinez in their WBA interim lightweight title fight August 15 at Mohegan Sun Arena. Judges Frank Lombardi (118-110) and Don Trella (115-113) also scored that fight for Romero, whose 12-round, unanimous-decision victory caused controversy.

Houston’s Jermall Charlo (30-0, 22 KOs) and Ukraine’s Derevyanchenko (13-2, 10 KOs) will be the main event of Showtime Pay-Per-View’s first three-bout block Saturday night (7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT). Houston’s Jermell Charlo (33-1, 17 KOs) and the Dominican Republic’s Rosario (20-1-1, 14 KOs) will fight for Charlo’s WBC and Rosario’s IBF and WBA 154-pound championships in the main event of Showtime’s second three-fight card, which will begin following a 30-minute intermission after the Charlo-Derevyanchenko fight.

The entire six-fight event can be purchased for $74.95.
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Harvey Dock ref'ing both fights. I think that's good.

Good judges assigned as well.
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Top Fighters, Top Trainers Make Their Picks

The highly anticipated pay-per-view doubleheader is the talk of the boxing world and some of the game's finest minds are split on who will emerge victorious. Respondents leaned toward Jermall Charlo to retain his title over Derevyanchenko by a tally of 12 to 8 (with one draw pick) while predictions for Jermell Charlo vs. Jeison Rosario were even tighter, with Charlo edging it out by a total of 15 to 13. Here is what the fighters and trainers had to say:

JERMALL CHARLO VS. SERGEY DEREVYANCHENKO FIGHT PREDICTIONS

Shawn Porter, two-time welterweight champion
Charlo W 12: Jermall Charlo demonstrated in his fight with Matt Korobov that he has trouble with fighters who can move, box and think in the ring. So that's what he's up against with Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Derevyanchenko lost two close fights to Daniel Jacobs and Gennadiy Golovkin, and it looked like he may have even beaten Golovkin. But in the end, I have Jermall winning this fight by a close decision.

Oleksandr Usyk, former undisputed cruiserweight champion and current heavyweight contender
Derevyanchenko UD 12: Sergiy Derevyanchenko is our guy and has been waiting for a title opportunity like this for a long time. His experience gained against Daniel Jacobs and Gennadiy Golovkin have prepared him for victory over Jermall Charlo. Sergiy by unanimous decision.

Nonito Donaire, four-division world champion
Charlo W 12: Jermall Charlo gets in there and establishes that he is the ring general, which is key going into a fight with anybody. You put your feet in cement, and you claim the ring and make them adjust to what you're doing.

Sergiy Derevyanchenko will bring the pressure, but Charlo is a very crafty fighter, and when he smells blood, he goes in on him, knowing how to work a fighter along the ropes and at the same time using the ring. I see him winning by a decision if not by knockout.

Jarrett Hurd, former unified super welterweight champion
Derevyanchenko UD 12: Sergiy Derevyanchenko had a really good fight against Gennadiy Golovkin, and, in fact, I thought he won. I think that he'll carry that momentum into this fight with Jermall Charlo, winning a unanimous decision.

Erislandy Lara, WBA Super Welterweight Champion
Charlo UD 12: Sergiy Derevyanchenko likes to come forward and I think that plays into Jermall Charlo's hands, who has the power to keep him honest. I just think Jermall is the better fighter with the superior boxing skills and he will come out victorious. Jermall by unanimous decision in a very entertaining fight.

Tony Harrison, former super welterweight champion
Charlo SD 12: Jermall Charlo will win based on his size in a tough fight similar to how Danny Jacobs and Gennadiy Golovkin did. I know Sergiy Derevyanchenko comes to fight, and I think it's going to be Charlo's most difficult fight to date, but I see him winning close, maybe by a split-decision.

Adam Kownacki, heavyweight contender
Draw: This is a difficult fight to pick, and I believe that it can go either way. I know both guys, and they're each very tough, so I'll say it's going to end in a draw.

Danny Roman, former unified super bantamweight champion
Charlo SD 12: Sergiy Derevyanchenko looked very tough against Gennadiy Golovkin, and he really gave him some problems in a fight that a lot of people believe Golovkin lost.

Jermall Charlo will have Derevyanchenko applying pressure on him for the entire fight, but I believe that he will use his speed, height and reach to win a split-decision.

Brandon Figueroa, Undefeated WBA Super Bantamweight Champion
Charlo TKO 10: Jermall Charlo's going to want to go out there and perform at his best against Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Charlo has power in both hands and he's going to show it. I believe Charlo is going to stop Derevyanchenko by TKO in the 10th.

Oleksandr Gvozdyk, former light heavyweight champion
Derevyanchenko W 12: Sergiy Derevyanchenko has great stamina, great conditioning and applies a lot of pressure. I don't believe that Jermall Charlo will be able to maintain a safe distance for the full 12 rounds.

I believe that Sergiy will be the one with his hands raised in the end, either by going the distance and applying constant pressure or winning by stoppage in the later rounds. But either way, I believe that the Ukraine is going to have another world champion.

Robert Guerrero, former three-time world champion
Charlo UD 12: I think that Jermall Charlo wins against an aggressive fighter in Sergiy Derevyanchenko, whose style plays right into Charlo's. Derevyanchenko is a pressure fighter, and anytime you get someone who can box, work behind a jab and deliver power like Charlo can, I believe that makes Derevyanchenko an easier target. I see Charlo winning by unanimous decision.

Taras Shelestyuk, undefeated welterweight contender
Derevyanchenko KO: Sergiy Derevyanchenko versus Jermall Charlo will be a tough fight. Their two different styles make this fight a hard one for both boxers. I believe that Sergiy will get the victory, but he will need to stop Charlo by knockout or technical knockout. If the fight goes through all rounds, it will be difficult for Sergiy to get a victory on points.

Robert Garcia, trainer of four-division world champion Mikey Garcia
Charlo W 12: I believe that Jermall Charlo will win a decision over Sergiy Derevyanchenko in a very good fight. Derevyanchenko will bring the pressure, but the game-changer is the skills that Charlo possesses, and I believe that he will use them to outbox Derevyanchenko.

Jamal James, interim WBA Welterweight Champion
Charlo W 12: Jermall Charlo is the stronger fighter and he has more skill than Sergiy Derevyanchenko as far as speed and general ring savvy as well, so I feel as if it's going to be a wide decision, if not a knockout win, for him.

Tugstsogt "King Tug" Nyambayar, featherweight contender
Derevyanchenko 12: It's a tough fight for both Sergiy Derevyanchenko and Jermall Charlo. I know Derevyanchenko from the amateurs and he will pull it off in this one. But I believe it's a 50/50 fight. The best man will come out on top.

Sergey Lipinets, former super lightweight champion and welterweight contender
Charlo TKO 8: Sergiy Derevyanchenko has a rugged style and he's coming off of a close loss to Gennadiy Golovkin, so we know he's capable of giving people problems. But I've known Derevyanchenko for a long time, and he's gotten busted up before, and Charlo places his punches really well.

So if Derevyanchenko gets caught by a big punch from Charlo in the middle of the fight, it's going to get nasty, it's going to be a wrap, and they are going to stop it on cuts in about the eighth round.

Matt Korobov, middleweight contender
Charlo W 12: Jermall Charlo is going to win this fight. Sergiy Derevyanchenko can put a lot of pressure, but I think Charlo is smart enough to beat Derevyanchenko.

Charles Mooney, Olympic Silver Medalist and trainer of Matt Korobov
Derevyanchenko W 12: Jermall Charlo is trained by Ronnie Shields, whom I believe is the best in the business. Charlo's jab, combinations, reaction time and defensive skills are excellent. But so are Sergiy Derevyanchenko's, and he demonstrated against Gennadiy Golovkin that he has the abilities to dominate this fight.

Still, Charlo's a hittable target, and it takes an aggressive guy like Derevyanchenko to beat him. Charlo doesn't have the amateur international history that Derevyanchenko has, and Derevyanchenko can really fight, so I'm leaning toward him to win a close one by decision.

Stephen Edwards, trainer of former super welterweight champion Julian Williams
Charlo UD 12: I think Jermall Charlo is too big for Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Jermall's jab and stature will be a lot to penetrate. Sergiy has more amateur pedigree, so I expect him to score points and hold his own.

But I think Jermall's jab, size and chin will win him the fight. I think Sergiy is vulnerable early and a knockdown will be the difference. Jermall by unanimous decision.

Ivan Redkach, welterweight contender
Derevyanchenko KO 7: Sergiy Derevyanchenko has never been a champion and he's extremely hungry and motivated to become one by defeating Jermall Charlo. I really like Charlo as a fighter, and as far as his style, and I have nothing bad to say about it.

But I do believe that Sergiy's pressure will eventually wear down Charlo, and that he will at some point hurt him, not let him off the hook, and be able to stop Charlo somewhere in the middle of the fight, maybe in the seventh round.

Vyacheslav Shabranskyy, light heavyweight contender
Derevyanchenko W 12: Sergiy Derevyanchenko is a very tough, durable guy whom I know from the amateurs, but Jermall Charlo has a great boxing style. Both fighters have great chins. I believe that it's going to be a great fight, and I think it's going to go the distance. But, ultimately, I believe Sergiy will have his hands raised in the end.
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Re: Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

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Should we be surprised about the Eastern European and Eastern Asian names predominantly picking against Charlo?
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Re: Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

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Enlightened-One wrote: 25 Sep 2020, 04:20 Should we be surprised about the Eastern European and Eastern Asian names predominantly picking against Charlo?
Same thing goes other way around.
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Re: Jermall Charlo vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - September 26, 2020

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Sep 2020, 05:15
Enlightened-One wrote: 25 Sep 2020, 04:20 Should we be surprised about the Eastern European and Eastern Asian names predominantly picking against Charlo?
Same thing goes other way around.
Yep. It would be nice if these guys provided honest opinions based on sporting reasons rather than personal/demographic bias.

And I’m referring to everyone, not just those favouring Derevyanchenko.
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