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[DrDuke]

Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez

1: Whitaker 10-9
2: Chavez 10-9
3: Whitaker 10-9
4: Whitaker 10-9
5: Chavez 10-9
6: Whitaker 10-9
7: Whitaker 10-9
8: Whitaker 10-9
9: Chavez 10-9
10: Whitaker 10-9
11: Whitaker 10-9
12: Whitaker 10-9

Total score: Whitaker 117-111

A one of the biggest robberies in boxing, if not the biggest one. At least a draw on cards and Whitaker retained his championship, but the fight wasn't even close.

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I don't think Michael Katsidis was ever not in a war. I think he could go down to the corner grocer and come home with a black eye. And his fight with Juan Diaz was no different. Here we go-go

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Diaz
Round 3: 10-9 Diaz
Round 4: 10-9 Diaz
Round 5: 10-9 Diaz
Round 6: 10-9 Diaz
Round 7: 10-9 Diaz
Round 8: 10-9 Diaz
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 Katsidis
Round 11: 10-9 Katsidis
Round 12: 10-9 Katsidis

Total: 117-113 Diaz (actual scores: 116-112 and 115-113 both for Diaz and 115-113 for Katsidis)

Phone booth warfare and there was not one round that was overwhelmingly for the other fighter. Just a damn good fight.

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Gaby Canizales v Bernardo Pinango

Never watched this fight before because I was so disappointed in the results, but here we go.

Round 1: 10-9 Pinango
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-9 Gaby
Round 4: 10-9 Pinango
Round 5: 10-9 Pinango
Round 6: 10-9 Gaby
Round 7: 10-9 Gaby
Round 8 - 15: all for Pinango

Total: 147-139 Pinango (actual scores: 146-142, 148-144 and 147-138 all for Pinango)

I was disappointed but mostly disgusted with this fight as this was not the Gaby Canizales I knew. The commentating team got it right. Gaby never threw a combo and kept going backwards. Pinango should have had rope burns on his back from being grilled there. Instead, the boxer forced the fight. I have rarely been so disappointed with a performance. Gaby should have had him out of there by the mid-rounds.

[DrDuke]

Joe Frazier vs Oscar Bonavena I

1: Frazier
2: Bonavena
3: Frazier
4: Frazier
5: Frazier
6: Frazier
7: Frazier
8: Bonavena
9: Frazier
10: Bonavena

Total score: Frazier 7-3

It was competetive, but not really that close, like it was reflected on the cards. Frazier started strong, he was down twice in the middle of the 2nd round, but he was enough tough to survive until the bell and to come back in the 3rd. Frazier was pressing the action, outworking and outscoring Bonavena for almost the whole fight. Bonavena was only able to steal a couple of the later rounds. Frazier rocked Bonavena on several occasions through the fight. Bonavena, despite knocking Frazier down twice in the 2nd, also rocked him in the final round. Yet overall it was clearly Frazier's fight. Even with modern rules I'd score it for Smokin' Joe 95-93.

[PredatorHayds]

Joe Frazier vs Oscar Bonavena I

1: Frazier
2: Bonavena
3: Frazier
4: Frazier
5: Frazier
6: Frazier
7: Frazier
8: Bonavena
9: Frazier
10: Bonavena

Total score: Frazier 7-3

It was competetive, but not really that close, like it was reflected on the cards. Frazier started strong, he was down twice in the middle of the 2nd round, but he was enough tough to survive until the bell and to come back in the 3rd. Frazier was pressing the action, outworking and outscoring Bonavena for almost the whole fight. Bonavena was only able to steal a couple of the later rounds. Frazier rocked Bonavena on several occasions through the fight. Bonavena, despite knocking Frazier down twice in the 2nd, also rocked him in the final round. Yet overall it was clearly Frazier's fight. Even with modern rules I'd score it for Smokin' Joe 95-93.

It’s incredible how slow a starter Joe was as a Pro considering he won a Gold medal as an Amateur and was so successful on the Golden Glove circuit.

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Watched a classic between Doug Jones and a very green Bob Foster who was fighting his first 10 rounder. NY scoring in effect.

Round 1: Jones (scores a knockdown)
Round 2: Foster
Round 3: Foster
Round 4: Jones
Round 5: Jones
Round 6: Even
Round 7: Jones
Round 8: Jones stops Foster

Total (through 7 completed rounds): 4-2-1 Jones

This turned into a pretty decent slugfest. Foster, who had only 9 fights behind him, needed room to unload the heavy artillery. And he did, stunning Jones a couple of times. However, Jones fought a crowding fight to negate those long arms unloading on him and one could see how strong he was on the inside. He hurt Foster bad at the end of the 7th and the ref and doctor was very concerned. The first sign of being hurt in the 8th the ref stopped it and rightfully so from a combination of exhaustion as well as Jones' punches.

[DrDuke]

It’s incredible how slow a starter Joe was as a Pro considering he won a Gold medal as an Amateur and was so successful on the Golden Glove circuit.

Yes, generally he was a slow starter. Even in this fight against Bonavena, where the first half of the fight overall looked better for Joe, than the second one, he got caught in the 2nd round.

[DrDuke]

Wilfred Benitez vs Sugar Ray Leonard

1: Leonard 10-9
2: Leonard 10-9
3: Leonard 10-8 (Benitez down)
4: Leonard 10-9
5: Benitez 10-9
6: Benitez 10-9
7: Benitez 10-9
8: Leonard 10-9
9: Leonard 10-9
10: Benitez 10-9
11: Leonard 10-9
12: Leonard 10-9
13: Leonard 10-9
14: Leonard 10-9
15: Leonard TKO

Prior to the stoppage: Leonard 136-129

A close and intense bout with very high technical display from both fighters, with several shifts of momentum. Leonard did enough for the victory going into the final round, where he managed to stop Benitez.

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Zora Folley v Doug Jones II (NY scoring)

Round 1: Folley (scores a knockdown)
Round 2: Folley
Round 3: Jones
Round 4: Jones
Round 5: Even
Round 6: Jones
Round 7: Jones scores a KO over Folley

Total (through 6 completed rounds): 3-2-1 Jones (actual scores: 5-1 and 4-2 for Folley and a 3-3 Even card)

I'm a big fan of Folley's but he let Jones into this fight by way of allowing Jones an inside fight. When Zora kept it on the outside in the first 2 rounds, he was golden with that stabbing jab and sharp-shooting with the straight right. Again, I'm a big fan of Zora's but I definitely disagree with the official scorecards going into the 7th. Give credit where credit is due.

[Counter-puncher]

Watched a classic between Doug Jones and a very green Bob Foster who was fighting his first 10 rounder. NY scoring in effect.

Round 1: Jones (scores a knockdown)
Round 2: Foster
Round 3: Foster
Round 4: Jones
Round 5: Jones
Round 6: Even
Round 7: Jones
Round 8: Jones stops Foster

Total (through 7 completed rounds): 4-2-1 Jones

This turned into a pretty decent slugfest. Foster, who had only 9 fights behind him, needed room to unload the heavy artillery. And he did, stunning Jones a couple of times. However, Jones fought a crowding fight to negate those long arms unloading on him and one could see how strong he was on the inside. He hurt Foster bad at the end of the 7th and the ref and doctor was very concerned. The first sign of being hurt in the 8th the ref stopped it and rightfully so from a combination of exhaustion as well as Jones' punches.

woah. matchmaking back in those days.....

[DrDuke]

Sugar Ray Leonard vs Roberto Duran

1: Leonard 10-9
2: Duran 10-9
3: Duran 10-9
4: Duran 10-9
5: Leonard 10-9
6: Leonard 10-9
7: Duran 10-9
8: Duran 10-9
9: Duran 10-9
10: Leonard 10-9
11: Duran 10-9
12: Leonard 10-9
13: Duran 10-9
14: 10-10
15: Leonard 10-9

Total score: Duran 144-142

A close, action-packed and competetive fight. Duran's edge was still quite clear, as Duran imposed his game on Leonard, he was landing the most bothering shots. Leonard showed guts with taking the fight, but still he mostly looked uncomfortable. Duran outbrawled Leonard, however, he entered overconfident in the final round and was playing around there, giving the round away and making the final score closer than it could have been.

[DrDuke]

Sugar Ray Leonard vs Thomas Hearns

1: 10-10
2: Hearns 10-9
3: Hearns 10-9
4: Hearns 10-9
5: Hearns 10-9
6: Leonard 10-9
7: Leonard 10-9
8: Leonard 10-9
9: Hearns 10-9
10: Hearns 10-9
11: Hearns 10-9
12: Hearns 10-9
13: Leonard 10-8 (Hearns down twice, but given a count only once)
14: Leonard TKO

Prior to the stoppage: Hearns 125-122

The fight started with Hearns pressing the action. In the first round none did anything special, both were cautious. Then Hearns started to outbox Leonard. Yet in the 6th Hearns got caught and thus Leonard turned the fight into his favor. He was battering Hearns in the next round as well. Hearns regroupped in the 8th and tried to move, box from the outside, but still he got tagged a lot. Since the 9th Hearns took over, he was outboxing Leonard until the 13th, where Leonard caught him again and dropped twice, while the ref mistakenly didn't give Hearns a count on the first occasion. In the next round Leonard finished the job. Hearns wasn't down there, but he was getting battered, the stoppage was OK. Overall, it was Hearns' fight, he was faster, he moved better, he used his jab perfectly, he probably would have won, if not his shaky chin.

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Watched a classic between Doug Jones and a very green Bob Foster who was fighting his first 10 rounder. NY scoring in effect.

Round 1: Jones (scores a knockdown)
Round 2: Foster
Round 3: Foster
Round 4: Jones
Round 5: Jones
Round 6: Even
Round 7: Jones
Round 8: Jones stops Foster

Total (through 7 completed rounds): 4-2-1 Jones

This turned into a pretty decent slugfest. Foster, who had only 9 fights behind him, needed room to unload the heavy artillery. And he did, stunning Jones a couple of times. However, Jones fought a crowding fight to negate those long arms unloading on him and one could see how strong he was on the inside. He hurt Foster bad at the end of the 7th and the ref and doctor was very concerned. The first sign of being hurt in the 8th the ref stopped it and rightfully so from a combination of exhaustion as well as Jones' punches.

woah. matchmaking back in those days.....

Counter, this may have been more of a 'back to the wall' scenario as the original match was Jones v Folley in a rematch and Folley pulled out sick. Foster's people accepted on a couple of days notice. Now, of course they could have said no, that their prize pupil needed more seasoning. However, I don't know how it was back in those days when something was offered. Was it like, 'If I turn this down I may never get offered again' type scenario? I don't know, but something tells me Teddy Brenner wielded some power as matchmaker of the Garden and you wouldn't want to get on his bad side. He had the TV date and obviously didn't want to lose it and fighters were probably lining up for their chance at the big time, so who knows?

[Counter-puncher]

you can certainly assume it wouldn't happen nowadays !!

[DrDuke]

Wilfred Benitez vs Roberto Duran

1: Benitez 10-9
2: Duran 10-9
3: Benitez 10-9
4: Benitez 10-9
5: Benitez 10-9
6: Duran 10-9
7: Benitez 10-9
8: Benitez 10-9
9: Benitez 10-9
10: Benitez 10-9
11: Benitez 10-9
12: 10-10
13: Duran 10-9
14: Benitez 10-9
15: Duran 10-9

Total score: Benitez 146-140

Duran still didn't come out from the crisis, which he had entered after winning Leonard and starting to have motivation problems. He looked lethargic through almost the whole fight, he was slow and hesitant. Benitez did the minimum required to outbox Duran. It the later rounds the fight slowed down, Benitez knew he was ahead, Duran provided a bit more effort, but still wasn't able to pull out a victory. Not a great fight.

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I recall when Gary Mason was coming up in British rings, but never had a chance to see him. So I watched 2 of his fights recently. And to tell you the truth, I was far more impressed with him in defeat than I was in victory. British scoring in effect.

Gary Mason v Tyrell Biggs

Round 1: Mason
Round 2: Even
Round 3: Mason
Round 4: Biggs
Round 5: Mason
Round 6: Biggs
Round 7: Mason KOs Biggs

Total: 59-58 1/2 Mason

Biggs had already been dumped by the Duvas by this time and was working his way into opponent status. Gary was beating up retreads on his way up, but Biggs was his best opponent by this time. A good, hard puncher was Mason but by the end of the 3rd one could see his arms getting heavy. Biggs got into the fight about this time and I marked on my card for the 6th that Gary's arms looked like lead. However, rather than take advantage of this, Biggs looked like he succumbed rather meekly at the end of the 7th. If I was watching this live with no idea with what was to come I don't think I would have given Gary much of a future.

Lennox Lewis v Gary Mason

Bad blood boiled over here as these two went at it.

Round 1: Lewis
Round 2: Even
Round 3: Lewis
Round 4: Mason
Round 5: Mason
Round 6: Lewis
Round 7: Referee stops contest due to severe eye damage suffered by Mason

Total: 59-58 1/2 Lewis

As Harry Carpenter noted around the 3rd or 4th, that Lewis 'was looking a bit ragged'. Mason's stamina issues weren't really evident here. He gave Lewis all he could handle. But Gary's right eye was really getting beat up, cut and swollen and he knew it was close to being stopped at the beginning of the 7th. So I loved his last ditch effort and went out on his shield hammering at Lewis. His eye problems really ended his career and unfortunately he was killed years later being hit by a van while riding a bike. But I'll always remember this fight now. This was one gutsy effort.

[DrDuke]

Wilfred Benitez vs Thomas Hearns

1: Hearns 10-9
2: Hearns 10-9
3: Hearns 10-9
4: 9-9 (Hearns deducted a point for pulling Benitez' head)
5: Hearns 10-8 (Benitez down)
6: Hearns 10-9
7: Benitez 10-9
8: Hearns 10-9
9: Benitez 10-8 (Hearns down, but not legitimately)
10: 10-10
11: Hearns 10-9
12: Hearns 10-9
13: Hearns 10-9
14: Hearns 10-9
15: Hearns 10-9

Total: Hearns 146-137

Hearns was fighting against not only Benitez. The draw card was a farce. Point deduction in the 4th was too much, the ref could just warn, as there was nothing severe. Also, Hearns shouldn't be given a count in the 9th, as Benitez missed, but stepped on Hearns' foot, after what Hearns went down. Overall, Hearns handily outboxed Benitez. Prime Hearns just couldn't be outboxed.

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There doesn't seem to be much history on this fight, but I recently scored the Reggie Johnson v Steve Collins bout for the vacant middleweight title. Here we go.

Round 1: 10-9 Johnson
Round 2: 10-9 Collins
Round 3: 10-9 Collins
Round 4: 10-9 Johnson
Round 5: 9-8 Johnson (Johnson wins the round but both fighters deducted 1 point for low-blows)
Round 6: 10-9 Collins
Round 7: 10-9 Johnson
Round 8: 10-9 Johnson
Round 9: 10-9 Johnson
Round 10: 10-9 Johnson
Round 11: 10-9 Collins
Round 12: 10-9 Johnson

Total: 115-111 Johnson (actual scores: 115-114 and 115-113 both for Johnson and a score of 114-114 Even for a MD win for Johnson)

I had it a bit wider than the judges but I was more impressed with Johnson's accuracy and how he wasted very little. Collins was dogged right to the end and the judges clearly saw this. Not great, but a good fight. A number of low blows, elbows and heads clunking but they both hung tough.

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Wilfred Benitez vs Roberto Duran

1: Benitez 10-9
2: Duran 10-9
3: Benitez 10-9
4: Benitez 10-9
5: Benitez 10-9
6: Duran 10-9
7: Benitez 10-9
8: Benitez 10-9
9: Benitez 10-9
10: Benitez 10-9
11: Benitez 10-9
12: 10-10
13: Duran 10-9
14: Benitez 10-9
15: Duran 10-9

Total score: Benitez 146-140

Duran still didn't come out from the crisis, which he had entered after winning Leonard and starting to have motivation problems. He looked lethargic through almost the whole fight, he was slow and hesitant. Benitez did the minimum required to outbox Duran. It the later rounds the fight slowed down, Benitez knew he was ahead, Duran provided a bit more effort, but still wasn't able to pull out a victory. Not a great fight.

Doc, have you seen the Duran v Robbie Sims 10 rounder? Well worth checking out.

[Onetimeonly]

Great fight, had Duran edging that one.

[DrDuke]

Doc, have you seen the Duran v Robbie Sims 10 rounder? Well worth checking out.

Yes, I have. I had Duran there, but I don't have the score now. I'll rewatch it soon.

[Woldemar]

Sims vs Duran i scored 96-93 .IMO Duran won this.

[DrDuke]

Marvin Hagler vs Roberto Duran

1: 10-10
2: Duran 10-9
3: Hagler 10-9
4: Duran 10-9
5: Duran 10-9
6: Hagler 10-9
7: Hagler 10-9
8: Hagler 10-9
9: Hagler 10-9
10: Duran 10-9
11: 10-10
12: Duran 10-9
13: Duran 10-9
14: Hagler 10-9
15: Hagler 10-9

Total score: Hagler 144-143

A great fight, it had eveything: elite level skills, action, intensity. Duran was better early, he was making Hagler miss a lot and scored the most telling blows. Hagler was able to take the middle part of the bout, Duran slowed down there, as he began to tire. However, Duran came back later. Alongside with the two official judges I had Duran ahead by a one point after the 13th round. Yet Hagler finished the fight like a true champion, he stole the final rounds and pulled out a victory.

[DrDuke]

Marvin Hagler vs Thomas Hearns

Well, there's no big sense in scoring this fight, but I feel Hagler won both of its full rounds. Hearns started better, he also cut Hagler in the 1st, but Hagler finished the round strong, as he trapped Hearns in the corner closer to the round's end, bombed him and wobbled him a bit at the end of the round. Hearns tried to box more in the 2nd, but Hagler again stole the ending, Hearns was wobbled there even more. Hearns couldn't be outboxed by anybody, but Hagler could also brawl and the cut was urging him to do it, so Hagler pressed forward in the 3rd and made a question of scoring unnecessary.

[DrDuke]

Roberto Duran vs Robbie Sims

1: Duran 10-9
2: Sims 10-9
3: Sims 10-9
4: Duran 10-9
5: 10-10
6: Duran 10-9
7: Duran 10-9
8: Sims 10-8 (Duran deducted a point for a low blow)
9: Duran 10-9
10: 10-10

Total score: Duran 96-95

So, here I rewatched it and I'm still going with Duran. It's interesting, that, if Duran wasn't deducted a point for a low blow, there would have officially been a draw. And the deduction was too much there, I'd say. So, yeah, Duran was robbed that night by both judges' and referee's actions.