Write ideal boxing weight classes

[Cent0089]

WEIGHTS:
105 lbs, minimumweight, 8 lbs rehydrate
112 lbs, flyweight, 8 lbs rehydrate
120 lbs, bantamweight, 8 lbs rehydrate
128 lbs, featherweight, 8 lbs rehydrate
135 lbs, lightweight, 10 lbs rehydrate
145 lbs, light welterweight, 10 lbs rehydrate
155 lbs, welterweight, 10 lbs rehydrate
165 lbs, middleweight, 10 lbs rehydrate
175 lbs, super middleweight, 12 lbs rehydrate
185 lbs, light heavyweight, 12 lbs rehydrate
200 lbs, cruiserweight, 12 lbs rehydrate
200 lbs +, heavyweight

BELTS:
One world championship belt per weightclass
Or keep 4 major organization belts but eliminate all interim, gold and silver trash. Create undisputed belt with cooperation of all 4 organizations with some solid financial bonus for boxer who get that belt.

[Tony1244]

If I was starting from scratch I'd have the weight divisions @ 120, 130 ,140 etc.

But considering there are time-honored numbers, I'd simply go with

Fly 112
Bantam 118
Feather 126
Light 135
Welter 147
Middle 160
LH 175
Cruiser 200
HW 200+

I'd get rid of all the superfluous JR and super garbage.

[Onetimeonly]

I'm fine with the classes, 1 champion is the key. Love same day weigh ins but that, nor single champ will never happen. Boxing could have fixed itself during this.

[ldlamb]

110
120
130
140
150
160
175
195
220
220+

[sykessta]

I like idlamb's setup. Although I don't think a whole restructuring of weight classes will happen anytime soon. If we could tweak the top three moving cruiser up to 220 and lhw to 185 or maybe even 190.
Actually keep all the lower weights as is.
And change top five:
MW:165
SMW:175
LHW:190
CW:225
HW:226+

[snake33]

Leave the weight classes alone
eliminate all the extra belts (interim, silver, aztec lol)
One governing body, one world belt per class, one world champ.
Sanctioning fees are a scam.

[sykessta]

Sounds like a novel idea. Who is going to enforce this? Who is going to pay the big 4 sanctioning bodies enough money that will make them want to give up the money they are making off sanctioning fees now? We all want that but its not anywhere near realistic unless a new league is formed that doesn't recognize the other sanctioning body's belts and only theirs which would be an almost impossible uphill battle. Or a boxing governing body steps in and mandates what your describing which is illegal on so many different levels.

[gilgamesh]

All of you assholes wanting to move Cruiserweight up to 225.

Makes me f*cking sick.

[sykessta]

All of you assholes wanting to move Cruiserweight up to 225.

Makes me f*cking sick.

Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!

[gilgamesh]

All of you assholes wanting to move Cruiserweight up to 225.

Makes me f*cking sick.

Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!

I don't know what that means.

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If I was starting from scratch I'd have the weight divisions @ 120, 130 ,140 etc.

But considering there are time-honored numbers, I'd simply go with

Fly 112
Bantam 118
Feather 126
Light 135
Welter 147
Middle 160
LH 175
Cruiser 200
HW 200+

I'd get rid of all the superfluous JR and super garbage.

I like this idea, my only tweak would be to drop CW back down to 190.

[gilgamesh]

If I was starting from scratch I'd have the weight divisions @ 120, 130 ,140 etc.

But considering there are time-honored numbers, I'd simply go with

Fly 112
Bantam 118
Feather 126
Light 135
Welter 147
Middle 160
LH 175
Cruiser 200
HW 200+

I'd get rid of all the superfluous JR and super garbage.

I like this idea, my only tweak would be to drop CW back down to 190.

Agreed. I don't mind the existence of Cruiserweight. 190 seems about right to me. I had a bit of a problem with it when it bumped up to 200 pounds, but nothing like the idea they have now of making full fledged Heavyweights into Super Cruiserweights.

Boxing fans will only see the error of their ways on that one when it's too late I guess.

Mark my words. If that happens, boxing will undergo one of it's darkest, bleakest times in it's history. Viewership will dwindle. Profits will dwindle. Interest will plummet.

Eventually somebody will veer back to tradition in an attempt to save it, but who knows if they'll do it soon enough.

[sykessta]

All of you assholes wanting to move Cruiserweight up to 225.

Makes me f*cking sick.

Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!

I don't know what that means.

The post you made in the other topic about exceptions to a rule. Like the movie rudy. Never saw it? I mean if you look at it that way I guess you have a point. The miracle on ice in 1980 would have never happened but you still can acknowledge the fact that a team full of professional players vs a team of college kids is a little unfair. Just like a guy who weighs 250lbs size can negate any skill advantage a guy who weighs 210lbs has with one punch, or by laying on him the whole fight ala fury vs cunningham.

[Tony1244]

If I was starting from scratch I'd have the weight divisions @ 120, 130 ,140 etc.

But considering there are time-honored numbers, I'd simply go with

Fly 112
Bantam 118
Feather 126
Light 135
Welter 147
Middle 160
LH 175
Cruiser 200
HW 200+

I'd get rid of all the superfluous JR and super garbage.

I like this idea, my only tweak would be to drop CW back down to 190.

Agreed. I don't mind the existence of Cruiserweight. 190 seems about right to me. I had a bit of a problem with it when it bumped up to 200 pounds, but nothing like the idea they have now of making full fledged Heavyweights into Super Cruiserweights.

Boxing fans will only see the error of their ways on that one when it's too late I guess.

Mark my words. If that happens, boxing will undergo one of it's darkest, bleakest times in it's history. Viewership will dwindle. Profits will dwindle. Interest will plummet.

Eventually somebody will veer back to tradition in an attempt to save it, but who knows if they'll do it soon enough.

I'll go along. You guys convinced me. 190 CW it is.

[Tony1244]

All of you assholes wanting to move Cruiserweight up to 225.

Makes me f*cking sick.

They're likely obese and want an obese division. Only reason I can think of.

[Tony1244]

I like idlamb's setup. Although I don't think a whole restructuring of weight classes will happen anytime soon. If we could tweak the top three moving cruiser up to 220 and lhw to 185 or maybe even 190.
Actually keep all the lower weights as is.
And change top five:
MW:165
SMW:175
LHW:190
CW:225
HW:226+

This is actually at least tied for the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Canelo weight: whatever weight canelo demands someone fight at

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

All of you assholes wanting to move Cruiserweight up to 225.

Makes me f*cking sick.

Gil obviously doesnt believe stats and facts:

FACT: bigger means better. Valuev beats all heavyweights because he was big

FACT if it wasnt for wilder, who is skinny, there would be no hw champs under 225 in the last 30 years except holyfield, byrd, haye, jones jr, tyson, ruiz, chagaev, imbragimov, brewster, moorer

[gilgamesh]

Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!

I don't know what that means.

The post you made in the other topic about exceptions to a rule. Like the movie rudy. Never saw it? I mean if you look at it that way I guess you have a point. The miracle on ice in 1980 would have never happened but you still can acknowledge the fact that a team full of professional players vs a team of college kids is a little unfair. Just like a guy who weighs 250lbs size can negate any skill advantage a guy who weighs 210lbs has with one punch, or by laying on him the whole fight ala fury vs cunningham.

Jack Dempsey beat the sh*t out of a man who outweighed him by 60 or so pounds to win the World title. One of the worst beatings ever in the history of Boxing.

[gilgamesh]

All of you assholes wanting to move Cruiserweight up to 225.

Makes me f*cking sick.

Gil obviously doesnt believe stats and facts:

FACT: bigger means better. Valuev beats all heavyweights because he was big

FACT if it wasnt for wilder, who is skinny, there would be no hw champs under 225 in the last 30 years except holyfield, byrd, haye, jones jr, tyson, ruiz, chagaev, imbragimov, brewster, moorer

Yeah, it's so unfair we need a new weight class because it can't happen otherwise for 'em, yet it HAS happened 11 times in the last 30 years.

11 times for something that can almost never happen is kinda incredible. Almost like exceptional talent beats size.

[sykessta]

I like idlamb's setup. Although I don't think a whole restructuring of weight classes will happen anytime soon. If we could tweak the top three moving cruiser up to 220 and lhw to 185 or maybe even 190.
Actually keep all the lower weights as is.
And change top five:
MW:165
SMW:175
LHW:190
CW:225
HW:226+

This is actually at least tied for the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life.

why?

[gilgamesh]

I like idlamb's setup. Although I don't think a whole restructuring of weight classes will happen anytime soon. If we could tweak the top three moving cruiser up to 220 and lhw to 185 or maybe even 190.
Actually keep all the lower weights as is.
And change top five:
MW:165
SMW:175
LHW:190
CW:225
HW:226+

This is actually at least tied for the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life.

why?

Muhammad Ali and Joe Louis are recognized far and wide as the 2 best Heavyweights of all time. OF ALL TIME.

They're both under 225 pounds.

Now ya get it?

[gilgamesh]

Mike Tyson.

Under 225 pounds

So Boxing doesn't ever need another potential phenom that sets the world on Fire and creates millions of new Boxing fans?

[sykessta]

I don't know what that means.

The post you made in the other topic about exceptions to a rule. Like the movie rudy. Never saw it? I mean if you look at it that way I guess you have a point. The miracle on ice in 1980 would have never happened but you still can acknowledge the fact that a team full of professional players vs a team of college kids is a little unfair. Just like a guy who weighs 250lbs size can negate any skill advantage a guy who weighs 210lbs has with one punch, or by laying on him the whole fight ala fury vs cunningham.

Jack Dempsey beat the sh*t out of a man who outweighed him by 60 or so pounds to win the World title. One of the worst beatings ever in the history of Boxing.

Who Jess Willard? Yea Willard was 38 years old at the time of that fight and Dempsey 34. Willard had also already lost 4 or 5 fights at that point so he wasn't a GREAT big man. Like you said exceptions, but a good big man beats a good small man, and a great big man beats a great small man. Almost 100% of the time.

[gilgamesh]

Hell I'll give you another point.

How many truly great fights can you think from guys over 225 fighting each other?

There was Wlad vs Joshua. There was Vitali vs Lewis....and that's about it.

However a big man fighting a little man gives us. Holyfield vs Bowe trilogy, Mike Tyson's whole goddamn prime run, Ali vs Foreman, Moorer vs Foreman, Holyfield vs Foreman.

Drama. Memories that last.