Efe Ajagba come is worst shape at weigh in

[Enlightened-One]

If Ajagba is injury free, and his age is really 25 , he will dominate heavyweight division very soon and for mamy years. He has an IRON SHIELD defence, which is hard to penetrat.

I think he already can beat lot of top 10 fighters .. there were no dramas in Ajagba recent fights. Everytime Ajagba fights make his haters nervouse.

I feel most UK fans don't give Ajagba the credit he deserves. He will when he smash Daniel Dobious outside in.

He is far from "stiff" as you say, and actually moves quite smoothly. He will fill out to around 240-250 over time. How you can say he has a leaky defense is remarkable, as he hasn't had the chance to show what, if any defensive issues he may have. Perhaps you should actually watch his fights and see for yourself. Oh, and his freakish 88" reach with the power he possesses is already making him formidable. I consider him the number one HW prospect.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

- Efe only fault is being a good looking prospect, currently near the end of the Boxrec top 25.

He stumbled Rice several times with two awkward fighters making for an awkward match...Duh! Easy to score 9-1, so dunno what some of you Daisy Maes are moaning about.

In spite of being off balance all night, he let's his hands go, his most outstanding attribute at this point, but needs to step up against fellow fringes

[cormack]

ajagbe wins but fails to impress .. against very low level opposition
this the same guy who gobs off about having skills to win a belt !

proper hype job

[Boxtune]

ajagbe wins but fails to impress .. against very low level opposition
this the same guy who gobs off about having skills to win a belt !

proper hype job

Now Questionable if he wins a title, but I'm sure he is not a hype job.

Before the fight i posted why he never looked in such a bad shape, sign of not training hard and was very visible had stamina issue with an open mouth after second half of fight.

[The Gratest]

Never had it, never will.
Doesn't throw combos, lacks head movement, doesn't dictate fights, lacks a jab to control fights with, lacks inside skills, not enough devil to his work. He's big and has decent power but lacks what it takes to challenge at the top. His compatriot, David Izon, had better skills but fought during one of the better eras of HW boxing.

[oogiebe]

If Ajagba is injury free, and his age is really 25 , he will dominate heavyweight division very soon and for mamy years. He has an IRON SHIELD defence, which is hard to penetrat.

I think he already can beat lot of top 10 fighters .. there were no dramas in Ajagba recent fights. Everytime Ajagba fights make his haters nervouse.

I feel most UK fans don't give Ajagba the credit he deserves. He will when he smash Daniel Dobious outside in.

He is far from "stiff" as you say, and actually moves quite smoothly. He will fill out to around 240-250 over time. How you can say he has a leaky defense is remarkable, as he hasn't had the chance to show what, if any defensive issues he may have. Perhaps you should actually watch his fights and see for yourself. Oh, and his freakish 88" reach with the power he possesses is already making him formidable. I consider him the number one HW prospect.

You dug up a quote from me from 19 months ago? Nothing wrong with it at the time. You need a hobby boyo.

[Thomastearns]

ajagbe wins but fails to impress .. against very low level opposition
this the same guy who gobs off about having skills to win a belt !

proper hype job

Now Questionable if he wins a title, but I'm sure he is not a hype job.

Before the fight i posted why he never looked in such a bad shape, sign of not training hard and was very visible had stamina issue with an open mouth after second half of fight.

Yes, but wasn't that a classic matchup between a younger boxer with a much better technique against a more talented but slightly weathered journeyman?

For sure it was a great learning fight for Ajagba but Jonathan Rice looked like a talented amateur in there trying to survive against a real professional.

And he did!

(The only real downer was hearing the name of the Magoo-like Adalaide Byrd mentioned once more).

[Enlightened-One]

If Ajagba is injury free, and his age is really 25 , he will dominate heavyweight division very soon and for mamy years. He has an IRON SHIELD defence, which is hard to penetrat.

I think he already can beat lot of top 10 fighters .. there were no dramas in Ajagba recent fights. Everytime Ajagba fights make his haters nervouse.

I feel most UK fans don't give Ajagba the credit he deserves. He will when he smash Daniel Dobious outside in.

He is far from "stiff" as you say, and actually moves quite smoothly. He will fill out to around 240-250 over time. How you can say he has a leaky defense is remarkable, as he hasn't had the chance to show what, if any defensive issues he may have. Perhaps you should actually watch his fights and see for yourself. Oh, and his freakish 88" reach with the power he possesses is already making him formidable. I consider him the number one HW prospect.

You dug up a quote from me from 19 months ago? Nothing wrong with it at the time. You need a hobby boyo.

I was merely illustrating the obscene amount of hype and praise that has bestowed on a fighter that has (so far) accomplished absolutely nothing in the pro or amateur ranks, whilst also appearing rather subpar during his last four outings.

If you passionately argue against me, and your words predictions fail to materialise, surely you can’t expect those you insulted and aggressively mocked to let you off the hook?

[oogiebe]

You dug up a quote from me from 19 months ago? Nothing wrong with it at the time. You need a hobby boyo.

I was merely illustrating the obscene amount of hype and praise that has bestowed on a fighter that has (so far) accomplished absolutely nothing in the pro or amateur ranks, whilst also appearing rather subpar during his last four outings.

If you passionately argue against me, and your words predictions fail to materialise, surely you can’t expect those you insulted and aggressively mocked to let you off the hook?

LMFAO! Still a schmuk. Nothing I posted last year was inaccurate at the time of the post. Read the post again. I also posted dozens of times after that openly rating Efe's subsequent performances and lack of development. There is something wrong with a person who spends time trolling through other people's 19 month old posts. Seriously bruh.

[Enlightened-One]

You dug up a quote from me from 19 months ago? Nothing wrong with it at the time. You need a hobby boyo.

I was merely illustrating the obscene amount of hype and praise that has bestowed on a fighter that has (so far) accomplished absolutely nothing in the pro or amateur ranks, whilst also appearing rather subpar during his last four outings.

If you passionately argue against me, and your words predictions fail to materialise, surely you can’t expect those you insulted and aggressively mocked to let you off the hook?

LMFAO! Still a schmuk. Nothing I posted last year was inaccurate at the time of the post. Read the post again. I also posted dozens of times after that openly rating Efe's subsequent performances and lack of development. There is something wrong with a person who spends time trolling through other people's 19 month old posts. Seriously bruh.

Efe Ajagba hasn’t got a “remarkable defence” and nor has he proven himself to be “formidable” or the number one heavyweight prospect.

These are things you claimed, which I disagreed with, but for someone reason, you ridiculed me for my opinion back then, even though everything I claimed remains perfectly valid today.

You’re the only one who has changed their stance, whereas I haven’t.

[oogiebe]

I was merely illustrating the obscene amount of hype and praise that has bestowed on a fighter that has (so far) accomplished absolutely nothing in the pro or amateur ranks, whilst also appearing rather subpar during his last four outings.

If you passionately argue against me, and your words predictions fail to materialise, surely you can’t expect those you insulted and aggressively mocked to let you off the hook?

LMFAO! Still a schmuk. Nothing I posted last year was inaccurate at the time of the post. Read the post again. I also posted dozens of times after that openly rating Efe's subsequent performances and lack of development. There is something wrong with a person who spends time trolling through other people's 19 month old posts. Seriously bruh.

Efe Ajagba hasn’t got a “remarkable defence” and nor has he proven himself to be “formidable” or the number one heavyweight prospect.

These are things you claimed, which I disagreed with, but for someone reason, you ridiculed me for my opinion back then, even though everything I claimed remains perfectly valid today.

You’re the only one who has changed their stance, whereas I haven’t.

How's Ivan Dychko doing? I never said he had a remarkable defense. You're a very poor politician.

[SportsRatings]

Ajagba does seem to have taken a step backwards. The new trainer? breaking him down to build him up? So far, just being broken down.

He looked stiff against Rice, but Rice is awkward. Note about Rice: the combined, current record of the guys who have beaten him is 68-0-0.

Efe has never looked loose, but he used to look RELAXED in the ring. He didn't have that look against Rice, and really hasn't since the Hernandez fight.

I could only find one round to give Rice, but 3 others were close enough that I suppose any score between 99-91 and 96-94 would be "fair".

He does get hit a lot. He covered up really well against Hernandez, where did that go? I guess it's easy when a guy telegraphs his flurries.

[oogiebe]

Ajagba does seem to have taken a step backwards. The new trainer? breaking him down to build him up? So far, just being broken down.

He looked stiff against Rice, but Rice is awkward. Note about Rice: the combined, current record of the guys who have beaten him is 68-0-0.

Efe has never looked loose, but he used to look RELAXED in the ring. He didn't have that look against Rice, and really hasn't since the Hernandez fight.

I could only find one round to give Rice, but 3 others were close enough that I suppose any score between 99-91 and 96-94 would be "fair".

He does get hit a lot. He covered up really well against Hernandez, where did that go? I guess it's easy when a guy telegraphs his flurries.

All correct. I'm just wondering if maybe shields knew something and simply gave up. Beginning with Mansour, Efe's gone nowhere.

[funso banjo baby]

decent learning fight for Efe.
Rice is much better than his record.
but both guys were to slow and lacklustre.

Efe has a very stiff upright posture...a sub-Charles Martin and will need to add a lot more to his game.

but a good fight at this stage of his career...nothing sensational in this fight just some nice single shots


Efe v Faure would be good

[Enlightened-One]

Efe Ajagba hasn’t got a “remarkable defence” and nor has he proven himself to be “formidable” or the number one heavyweight prospect.

These are things you claimed, which I disagreed with, but for someone reason, you ridiculed me for my opinion back then, even though everything I claimed remains perfectly valid today.

You’re the only one who has changed their stance, whereas I haven’t.

How's Ivan Dychko doing?

To be honest, I don’t know what he’s up to nowadays.

However, I suspect that whilst he’s having to endure a period of inactivity, he’s probably reminiscing about possessing an unblemished nine-fight professional record, capturing two silvers and one bronze in the world championships, as well as two bronze medals in the Olympics.

He might even be proud of competing in 199 amateur bouts, losing only 18 of them, as well as holding victories over the likes of Zhang Zhilei, Magomedrasul Majidov, Filip Hrgovic, Erislandy Savon and Efe Ajagba.

I never said he had a remarkable defense.

This is the second time I’ve posted this quote of yours to this thread:

He is far from "stiff" as you say, and actually moves quite smoothly. He will fill out to around 240-250 over time. How you can say he has a leaky defense is remarkable...

...Oh, and his freakish 88" reach with the power he possesses is already making him formidable. I consider him the number one HW prospect.

You're a very poor politician.

I’m not sure if that’s supposed to be an insult or a complement, because I dislike most politicians.

[oogiebe]

Efe Ajagba hasn’t got a “remarkable defence” and nor has he proven himself to be “formidable” or the number one heavyweight prospect.

These are things you claimed, which I disagreed with, but for someone reason, you ridiculed me for my opinion back then, even though everything I claimed remains perfectly valid today.

You’re the only one who has changed their stance, whereas I haven’t.

How's Ivan Dychko doing?

To be honest, I don’t know what he’s up to nowadays.

However, I suspect that whilst he’s having to endure a period of inactivity, he’s probably reminiscing about possessing an unblemished nine-fight professional record, capturing two silvers and one bronze in the world championships, as well as two bronze medals in the Olympics.

He might even be proud of competing in 199 amateur bouts, losing only 18 of them, as well as holding victories over the likes of Zhang Zhilei, Magomedrasul Majidov, Filip Hrgovic, Erislandy Savon and Efe Ajagba.

I never said he had a remarkable defense.

This is the second time I’ve posted this quote of yours to this thread: Guess you need to read it a third time, boyo

He is far from "stiff" as you say, and actually moves quite smoothly. He will fill out to around 240-250 over time. How you can say he has a leaky defense is remarkable...

...Oh, and his freakish 88" reach with the power he possesses is already making him formidable. I consider him the number one HW prospect.

You're a very poor politician.

I’m not sure if that’s supposed to be an insult or a complement, because I dislike most politicians.

Best part is you quoting a post from February 2019. LMFAO!

[Enlightened-One]

How's Ivan Dychko doing?

To be honest, I don’t know what he’s up to nowadays.

However, I suspect that whilst he’s having to endure a period of inactivity, he’s probably reminiscing about possessing an unblemished nine-fight professional record, capturing two silvers and one bronze in the world championships, as well as two bronze medals in the Olympics.

He might even be proud of competing in 199 amateur bouts, losing only 18 of them, as well as holding victories over the likes of Zhang Zhilei, Magomedrasul Majidov, Filip Hrgovic, Erislandy Savon and Efe Ajagba.

I never said he had a remarkable defense.

This is the second time I’ve posted this quote of yours to this thread: Guess you need to read it a third time, boyo

He is far from "stiff" as you say, and actually moves quite smoothly. He will fill out to around 240-250 over time. How you can say he has a leaky defense is remarkable...

...Oh, and his freakish 88" reach with the power he possesses is already making him formidable. I consider him the number one HW prospect.

You're a very poor politician.

I’m not sure if that’s supposed to be an insult or a complement, because I dislike most politicians.

Best part is you quoting a post from February 2019. LMFAO!

Why use the word remarkable in the context of his defence?

And has your opinion about Ajagba has changed?

If it has, then you’ve just admitted to being proven wrong.

But if it hasn’t, you’ve just admitted that I was wholly justified to quote your thoughts about Ajagba, since they reflect your current mind-set. So you’re admitting to being wrong again.

So what’s it to be?

[margaret thatcher]

Let's throw out some TBFs

TBF , eo has been an efe skeptic from the start and more and more lately it looks like his opinion of efe is becoming the one to match efes performances

TBF, oogs and others were red hot on efe at one point when he was winning more impressively, but tbf theyve posted several times since about his lack of progress and stagnation. It's not really a big deal if people are hot on a fighter at one point but then not so much as he gives repeated underwhelming efforts, that's the nature of it in fact, you adjust your views in line with what you see

[oogiebe]

Let's throw out some TBFs

TBF , eo has been an efe skeptic from the start and more and more lately it looks like his opinion of efe is becoming the one to match efes performances

TBF, oogs and others were red hot on efe at one point when he was winning more impressively, but tbf theyve posted several times since about his lack of progress and stagnation. It's not really a big deal if people are hot on a fighter at one point but then not so much as he gives repeated underwhelming efforts, that's the nature of it in fact, you adjust your views in line with what you see

All true.

[oogiebe]

To be honest, I don’t know what he’s up to nowadays.

However, I suspect that whilst he’s having to endure a period of inactivity, he’s probably reminiscing about possessing an unblemished nine-fight professional record, capturing two silvers and one bronze in the world championships, as well as two bronze medals in the Olympics.

He might even be proud of competing in 199 amateur bouts, losing only 18 of them, as well as holding victories over the likes of Zhang Zhilei, Magomedrasul Majidov, Filip Hrgovic, Erislandy Savon and Efe Ajagba.

This is the second time I’ve posted this quote of yours to this thread: Guess you need to read it a third time, boyo


I’m not sure if that’s supposed to be an insult or a complement, because I dislike most politicians.

Best part is you quoting a post from February 2019. LMFAO!

Why use the word remarkable in the context of his defence?

And has your opinion about Ajagba has changed?

If it has, then you’ve just admitted to being proven wrong.

But if it hasn’t, you’ve just admitted that I was wholly justified to quote your thoughts about Ajagba, since they reflect your current mind-set. So you’re admitting to being wrong again.

So what’s it to be?

Because, as of that post, he hadn't fought anyone that showed us his inability to get out of the way shots down the pike. We're arguing about a post that is 17 months old. I've changed my view of fighters over their careers based on performance since I was a wee lad. You seem to be the only one who hasn't. You're perfect.

[Enlightened-One]

Best part is you quoting a post from February 2019. LMFAO!

Why use the word remarkable in the context of his defence?

And has your opinion about Ajagba has changed?

If it has, then you’ve just admitted to being proven wrong.

But if it hasn’t, you’ve just admitted that I was wholly justified to quote your thoughts about Ajagba, since they reflect your current mind-set. So you’re admitting to being wrong again.

So what’s it to be?

Because, as of that post, he hadn't fought anyone that showed us his inability to get out of the way shots down the pike. We're arguing about a post that is 17 months old. I've changed my view of fighters over their careers based on performance since I was a wee lad. You seem to be the only one who hasn't. You're perfect.

OK, so you previously tried to mock/insult me for holding an opinion you now agree with?

I’m glad we finally see eye-to-eye.

Thanks buddy!

[oogiebe]

Why use the word remarkable in the context of his defence?

And has your opinion about Ajagba has changed?

If it has, then you’ve just admitted to being proven wrong.

But if it hasn’t, you’ve just admitted that I was wholly justified to quote your thoughts about Ajagba, since they reflect your current mind-set. So you’re admitting to being wrong again.

So what’s it to be?

Because, as of that post, he hadn't fought anyone that showed us his inability to get out of the way shots down the pike. We're arguing about a post that is 17 months old. I've changed my view of fighters over their careers based on performance since I was a wee lad. You seem to be the only one who hasn't. You're perfect.

OK, so you previously tried to mock/insult me for holding an opinion you now agree with?

I’m glad we finally see eye-to-eye.

Thanks buddy!

How do you get that?!

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

A lot us share that opinion on efe. Hes making fun of you for wasting time picking boxtune quotes to throw in boxtunes face.

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I guess you'll have to find someone else to wank to tonight

[Enlightened-One]

A lot us share that opinion on efe. Hes making fun of you for wasting time picking boxtune quotes to throw in boxtunes face.

I feel entitled to take the mickey out of oogiebe and Boxtune, by quoting some of their bizarrely absurd posts, when they previously criticised me for refusing to ride the Ajagba hype train.

And despite our frequent disputes, I do applaud oogiebe for having enough common sense to change his opinion about Ajagba in light of the Nigerians poor performances during his last four outings.