When you knew they were special

[oogiebe]

You could easily turn this around because there’s plenty I’ve seen that I would’ve bet big money that they were gonna be the goods but didn’t turn out that way

I have the worst one no matter what anyone else says. (I've posted about it before)

Lol who was it?

Railroad Tye Fields. LMFAO!

EDIT: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/15663

[THEBUTCH]

Colin McMillan v Alric Johnson. Terrific 6 rounder and knew Colin would go on to good things.

Michael Ayres v Greg Egbuniwe. Ayres looked rock solid and could thump with real power.

Richard Hatton v Colin Lynes. I was told to watch out for this 17 year old who had travelled down from Manchester to Barking to box the capable Lynes and was hugely impressed to see Hatton destroy Colin in about 55 seconds with body shots.

David Walker v Craig Stanley. Stanley was a rugged amateur, but in the SE London divs Walker displayed tremendous punch power by blasting out Stanley in quick time.

Jamie McDonnell v Wayne Bloy. McDonnell looked sensational tearing into Bloy in their second fight.

[littlepug]

I have the worst one no matter what anyone else says. (I've posted about it before)

Lol who was it?

Railroad Tye Fields. LMFAO!

EDIT: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/15663

Big sky! I thought Audley was gonna smash Haye!!!

[Old bones Ian]

Joe Calzaghe vs Mark Delaney.

Both unbeaten and Mark could punch and had been the 12 round distance a few times.
But from the first bell it was all Calzaghe, made Delaney look levels below him

[Bigdogsnose]

I reckon jaron Ennis at the weekend. This kid looks p4p ready. Even at this stage I’d say he’d be a tough night for either Crawford or Spence.

The first knockdown, what a hook. He’s very unorthodox but a great boxer with loads of spite.

It’s going to be a long road to the top cos no-one will go near him until they have to.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Ray Leonard/Adolfo Viruet. Thought Viruet would be tougher for Ray than he was. He put up a good fight, but it showed me Ray was special alright.

This reminds me of another one. Miguel Cotto vs Lovemore Ndou. Though he had won more impressively prior to this fight, this one showed me that Cotto had the grit necessary to tough it out when challenged. Ndou gave him a hard night, and Cotto just got by with a 115-113 type win, but he showed grit and the ability to adjust in this fight. A crucial element to succeeding at the highest level.

Was at that fight. Apparently cotto had broken ribs from round 4 on.

[bennie]

Ali/Cleveland Williams, Hamed/Vincenzo Belcastro, Jones Jr/Thomas Tate, and Eubank Sr/Denys Cronin

I remember seeing this on regional London TV (also on Eurosport), I remember Denys Cronin as a top international amateur who had one-shot kayos as a pro.

To stand still on front of an opponent and counter in combination with power without a care in the world like that was pretty damn impressive - reflexes, timing and technique

Denys Cronin first came to attention in the ABA semi-finals in Preston in 1984. He faced the Navy's Brian Schumacher and was outboxed for two rounds but nailed Schumacher with a left hook after the bell to end the second and Schumacher, who had dropped his hands, went down heavily. Amazingly, referee Reg Thompson began counting and Schumacher dragged himself up and staggered to his corner. Badly dazed, the gutsy Schumacher survived the final round on instict alone as Cronin pounded him throughout but couldn't finish him. The decision quite rightly went to Schumacher but the middleweight division offered more thrills and spills when London's highly touted Michael Watson was dropped by little-known Scot Russell Barker in the first round with a big left hook - and dropped hard. Watson made it up, survived the round and fought back well at times in the second and third rounds but the stocky Barker kept on the pressure to take a unanimous decision. Somewhat incredulously, Michael makes no mention of the knockdown in his autobiography (The Biggest Fight), simply claiming that he was robbed in the bout, which he wasn't.

[Fray Bentos]

Billy Joe Saunders when he sent his son to punch Willie Monroe in the nuts - I thought, he is a bit of a special case isn't he.

[Fray Bentos]

Ali/Cleveland Williams, Hamed/Vincenzo Belcastro, Jones Jr/Thomas Tate, and Eubank Sr/Denys Cronin

I remember seeing this on regional London TV (also on Eurosport), I remember Denys Cronin as a top international amateur who had one-shot kayos as a pro.

To stand still on front of an opponent and counter in combination with power without a care in the world like that was pretty damn impressive - reflexes, timing and technique

Denys Cronin first came to attention in the ABA semi-finals in Preston in 1984. He faced the Navy's Brian Schumacher and was outboxed for two rounds but nailed Schumacher with a left hook after the bell to end the second and Schumacher, who had dropped his hands, went down heavily. Amazingly, referee Reg Thompson began counting and Schumacher dragged himself up and staggered to his corner. Badly dazed, the gutsy Schumacher survived the final round on instict alone as Cronin pounded him throughout but couldn't finish him. The decision quite rightly went to Schumacher but the middleweight division offered more thrills and spills when London's highly touted Michael Watson was dropped by little-known Scot Russell Barker in the first round with a big left hook - and dropped hard. Watson made it up, survived the round and fought back well at times in the second and third rounds but the stocky Barker kept on the pressure to take a unanimous decision. Somewhat incredulously, Michael makes no mention of the knockdown in his autobiography (The Biggest Fight), simply claiming that he was robbed in the bout, which he wasn't.

Was Russell Barker the Brendan Ingle fighter who was from Sheffield but boxed for Scotland or am I thinking of someone else, Bennie?

[NoScoutingReports]

I reckon jaron Ennis at the weekend. This kid looks p4p ready. Even at this stage I’d say he’d be a tough night for either Crawford or Spence.

The first knockdown, what a hook. He’s very unorthodox but a great boxer with loads of spite.

It’s going to be a long road to the top cos no-one will go near him until they have to.

That hook was a peach. You could be right about how quick he gets moved but hopefully he continues to step up in competition, only 23 but now not too far off the 30 fight mark as a pro.

[Bigdogsnose]

I reckon jaron Ennis at the weekend. This kid looks p4p ready. Even at this stage I’d say he’d be a tough night for either Crawford or Spence.

The first knockdown, what a hook. He’s very unorthodox but a great boxer with loads of spite.

It’s going to be a long road to the top cos no-one will go near him until they have to.

That hook was a peach. You could be right about how quick he gets moved but hopefully he continues to step up in competition, only 23 but now not too far off the 30 fight mark as a pro.

Yeah i'd seen that, helluva lot of fights for a prospect of his age. Saturday was a step up and his next fight should be as well. He's going to have to go the mandatory route. Ortiz is the super hyped up and comer in the usa welters, but i reckon ennis is the better prospect.

[NoScoutingReports]

I reckon jaron Ennis at the weekend. This kid looks p4p ready. Even at this stage I’d say he’d be a tough night for either Crawford or Spence.

The first knockdown, what a hook. He’s very unorthodox but a great boxer with loads of spite.

It’s going to be a long road to the top cos no-one will go near him until they have to.

That hook was a peach. You could be right about how quick he gets moved but hopefully he continues to step up in competition, only 23 but now not too far off the 30 fight mark as a pro.

Yeah i'd seen that, helluva lot of fights for a prospect of his age. Saturday was a step up and his next fight should be as well. He's going to have to go the mandatory route. Ortiz is the super hyped up and comer in the usa welters, but i reckon ennis is the better prospect.

Yeah, Abreu hadn't been stopped before had he, quite durable.

[Boxing Prospect]

Inoue beating Yuki Sano, whilst essentially fighting much of the fight with a damaged right hand. Was the return of live boxing on Fuji TV and they were making him out to be a star, and he showed it. Tremendous performance by a guy who was 2-0 entering the fight

[oogiebe]

Lol who was it?

Railroad Tye Fields. LMFAO!

EDIT: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/15663

Big sky! I thought Audley was gonna smash Haye!!!

LOL! First he was "railroad" tye.
Mine is still worse.

[bennie]

Ali/Cleveland Williams, Hamed/Vincenzo Belcastro, Jones Jr/Thomas Tate, and Eubank Sr/Denys Cronin

I remember seeing this on regional London TV (also on Eurosport), I remember Denys Cronin as a top international amateur who had one-shot kayos as a pro.

To stand still on front of an opponent and counter in combination with power without a care in the world like that was pretty damn impressive - reflexes, timing and technique

Denys Cronin first came to attention in the ABA semi-finals in Preston in 1984. He faced the Navy's Brian Schumacher and was outboxed for two rounds but nailed Schumacher with a left hook after the bell to end the second and Schumacher, who had dropped his hands, went down heavily. Amazingly, referee Reg Thompson began counting and Schumacher dragged himself up and staggered to his corner. Badly dazed, the gutsy Schumacher survived the final round on instict alone as Cronin pounded him throughout but couldn't finish him. The decision quite rightly went to Schumacher but the middleweight division offered more thrills and spills when London's highly touted Michael Watson was dropped by little-known Scot Russell Barker in the first round with a big left hook - and dropped hard. Watson made it up, survived the round and fought back well at times in the second and third rounds but the stocky Barker kept on the pressure to take a unanimous decision. Somewhat incredulously, Michael makes no mention of the knockdown in his autobiography (The Biggest Fight), simply claiming that he was robbed in the bout, which he wasn't.

Was Russell Barker the Brendan Ingle fighter who was from Sheffield but boxed for Scotland or am I thinking of someone else, Bennie?

Barker may have drifted to the Brendan Ingle gym. He was from Dundee but moved to Nottingham and turned pro with Wally Swift in 1987 and was coldcocked by Nigel Benn at Windsor in his second pro outing. It was a bad knockout and Barker only had a few more fights before disappearing off the scene. (Schumacher outclassed him, by the way, in the 1984 ABA middleweight final to win on points and went on to captain Britain in the Olympics that year in Los Angeles, where he was eliminated by Virgil Hill after a good scrap.)

[Wrists]

Naz vs Belcastro is a great shout.
Lewis vs Ruddock is another one for me.

Lewis/Ruddock. Absolutely. I still remember being nervous for LL before the opening bell.

Belcastro was made to look like a complete novice, one tough novice though!

I remember this also for Naz being able to deal with a wily old pro sticking the head in, rabbit punching etc. Belcastro was a dirty fighter, a fact often overlooked in this fight, and one that gets conveniently passed over by those who wanted to deride Naz for taking the mick in the last round.

Personally I found it funny given Belcastro had tried to nut Naz on 2/3 occasions during the fight but still had the granny bashed out of him.

[Switch hitter]

Ali/Cleveland Williams, Hamed/Vincenzo Belcastro, Jones Jr/Thomas Tate, and Eubank Sr/Denys Cronin

I remember seeing this on regional London TV (also on Eurosport), I remember Denys Cronin as a top international amateur who had one-shot kayos as a pro.

To stand still on front of an opponent and counter in combination with power without a care in the world like that was pretty damn impressive - reflexes, timing and technique

Denys Cronin first came to attention in the ABA semi-finals in Preston in 1984. He faced the Navy's Brian Schumacher and was outboxed for two rounds but nailed Schumacher with a left hook after the bell to end the second and Schumacher, who had dropped his hands, went down heavily. Amazingly, referee Reg Thompson began counting and Schumacher dragged himself up and staggered to his corner. Badly dazed, the gutsy Schumacher survived the final round on instict alone as Cronin pounded him throughout but couldn't finish him. The decision quite rightly went to Schumacher but the middleweight division offered more thrills and spills when London's highly touted Michael Watson was dropped by little-known Scot Russell Barker in the first round with a big left hook - and dropped hard. Watson made it up, survived the round and fought back well at times in the second and third rounds but the stocky Barker kept on the pressure to take a unanimous decision. Somewhat incredulously, Michael makes no mention of the knockdown in his autobiography (The Biggest Fight), simply claiming that he was robbed in the bout, which he wasn't.

Was Russell Barker the Brendan Ingle fighter who was from Sheffield but boxed for Scotland or am I thinking of someone else, Bennie?

Think you mean Jason Barker

[Fray Bentos]

Denys Cronin first came to attention in the ABA semi-finals in Preston in 1984. He faced the Navy's Brian Schumacher and was outboxed for two rounds but nailed Schumacher with a left hook after the bell to end the second and Schumacher, who had dropped his hands, went down heavily. Amazingly, referee Reg Thompson began counting and Schumacher dragged himself up and staggered to his corner. Badly dazed, the gutsy Schumacher survived the final round on instict alone as Cronin pounded him throughout but couldn't finish him. The decision quite rightly went to Schumacher but the middleweight division offered more thrills and spills when London's highly touted Michael Watson was dropped by little-known Scot Russell Barker in the first round with a big left hook - and dropped hard. Watson made it up, survived the round and fought back well at times in the second and third rounds but the stocky Barker kept on the pressure to take a unanimous decision. Somewhat incredulously, Michael makes no mention of the knockdown in his autobiography (The Biggest Fight), simply claiming that he was robbed in the bout, which he wasn't.

Was Russell Barker the Brendan Ingle fighter who was from Sheffield but boxed for Scotland or am I thinking of someone else, Bennie?

Think you mean Jason Barker

I do!

[Coco]

Hi think you have a different Jason Barker??

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/4793

[Coco]

Russell Barker

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/1005

[Switch hitter]

Was Russell Barker the Brendan Ingle fighter who was from Sheffield but boxed for Scotland or am I thinking of someone else, Bennie?

Think you mean Jason Barker

I do!

He did box for the Scottish title 2 twice but was born and bread in Sheffield

[Switch hitter]

Think you mean Jason Barker

I do!

He did box for the Scottish title 2 twice ...... must have been the grandparent thing

[Coco]

Think you mean Jason Barker

I do!

He did box for the Scottish title 2 twice but was born and bread in Sheffield

Jason was def a Sheffield lad, first with Brendan and then with Glyn Rhodes, good bloke

[oogiebe]

Thinking about Mike Tyson. I began to fully see his full potential when he blathered Donnie Long.

[Switch hitter]

I do!

He did box for the Scottish title 2 twice but was born and bread in Sheffield

Jason was def a Sheffield lad, first with Brendan and then with Glyn Rhodes, good bloke

Top lad Jason. Once he sent me to Macdonald's for a double cheeseburger just before he beat Junior Witter in the Am's