James Toney's best win

Which one?

UD10 Sanderline Williams
0
No votes
SD12 Merqui Sosa
0
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TKO11 Michael Nunn (IBF MW title)
17
59%
SD12 Reggie Johnson (IBF MW title)
0
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TKO4 Francesco Dell'Aquila (IBF MW title)
0
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SD12 Dave Tiberi (IBF MW title)
1
3%
UD12 Glenn Wolfe (IBF MW title)
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MD12 Mike McCallum (IBF MW title)
2
7%
RTD9 Iran Barkley (IBF SMW title)
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UD12 Tony Thornton (IBF SMW title)
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No votes
TKO4 Tim Littles (IBF SMW title)
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KO12 Charles Williams (IBF SMW title)
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UD12 Mike McCallum
2
7%
TKO10 Adolpho Washington
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UD12 Vassiliy Jirov (IBF CW title)
2
7%
TKO9 Evander Holyfield
4
14%
UD12 John Ruiz (WBA HW title, turned to NC)
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No votes
TKO3 Hasim Rahman (turned to NC)
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No votes
SD12 Fres Oquendo
0
No votes
Other
1
3%
 
Total votes: 29

DrDuke
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James Toney's best win

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James "Lights Out" Toney had 92 fights from MW to HW and captured a quite some amount of great wins.

What's the best one?
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Nunn
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Nunn
DrDuke
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Probably I gotta go with Nunn too.

I like his performances against Barkley and Jirov more, but both those guys were made for Toney, while against Nunn Toney had to go for it. Nunn was the best boxer Toney faced.

Of course, Holyfield should have been the best, but obviously he was shot, when Toney faced him.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Nunn's probably his single best win.

Barkley is his most impressive, most dominant performance that I've seen.

The Jirov or Holyfield win are right there as some of his top wins too.

Tim Littles wasn't a big name, but the circumstances with which he won there make that one special.

But yeah. Nunn.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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My favorite was Williams, his best performance was probably Barkley, best fight jirov. Nunn pretty clear best win.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Nunn. Always wished there was a rematch.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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DrDuke wrote: 25 Sep 2020, 16:51 Probably I gotta go with Nunn too.

I like his performances against Barkley and Jirov more, but both those guys were made for Toney, while against Nunn Toney had to go for it. Nunn was the best boxer Toney faced.

Of course, Holyfield should have been the best, but obviously he was shot, when Toney faced him.
I would say Roy Jones was the best boxer Toney faced.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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pound per pound wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 02:19
DrDuke wrote: 25 Sep 2020, 16:51 Probably I gotta go with Nunn too.

I like his performances against Barkley and Jirov more, but both those guys were made for Toney, while against Nunn Toney had to go for it. Nunn was the best boxer Toney faced.

Of course, Holyfield should have been the best, but obviously he was shot, when Toney faced him.
I would say Roy Jones was the best boxer Toney faced.
I agree, I just meant among those, whom he had defeated. But win or lose - yes, gotta go with Jones.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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McCallum rematch.

McCallum is the best fighter that an in shape Toney ever fought.

Could easily have gone either way. The draw (first fight) is another very good one, as McCallum was subtly outboxing Toney and an exhausted Toney was timing brutal right hands over McCallum’s jab. Apparently Toney said these fights were great educations that brought his game to the next level.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Autobarn wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 05:28 McCallum rematch.

McCallum is the best fighter that an in shape Toney ever fought.

Could easily have gone either way. The draw (first fight) is another very good one, as McCallum was subtly outboxing Toney and an exhausted Toney was timing brutal right hands over McCallum’s jab. Apparently Toney said these fights were great educations that brought his game to the next level.
McCallum win is a one of his best for sure, but I won't call it the best because of a very close nature of it. Actually, I even see their draw as a more convincing performance of Toney than his MD win over McCallum.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Great points. Nothing decisive and Toney was the Canelo of the ‘90s, receiving the benefit of the doubt in razor thin or competitive fights.

Indeed, although he hurt McCallum in the final few seconds of the first fight, he was in worse shape - unable to actually speak properly in the post fight interview. And, in the very hard to score rematch, he was pacing around in frustration at the final bell.

I wish they were 1-1 in their middleweight fights as McCallum really gets forgotten.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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His Food Intake?
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Re: James Toney's best win

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The win over an in form Nunn was his best I’d say, McCallum was also a good one but not clear cut, the McCallum fights were a great display of boxing skills though from both men, it was also a great display of “old manning” against Jirov with his box of old school tricks, the Barkley fight was another great display of all his skills all done effortlessly, I miss Toney🥊
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Autobarn wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 06:21 Great points. Nothing decisive and Toney was the Canelo of the ‘90s, receiving the benefit of the doubt in razor thin or competitive fights.
Well, not always. I'd say, Toney edged in both Griffin fights, but both were scored against him.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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pound per pound wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 02:19
DrDuke wrote: 25 Sep 2020, 16:51 Probably I gotta go with Nunn too.

I like his performances against Barkley and Jirov more, but both those guys were made for Toney, while against Nunn Toney had to go for it. Nunn was the best boxer Toney faced.

Of course, Holyfield should have been the best, but obviously he was shot, when Toney faced him.
I would say Roy Jones was the best boxer Toney faced.
Holyfield was better than Roy.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 11:38
pound per pound wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 02:19
DrDuke wrote: 25 Sep 2020, 16:51 Probably I gotta go with Nunn too.

I like his performances against Barkley and Jirov more, but both those guys were made for Toney, while against Nunn Toney had to go for it. Nunn was the best boxer Toney faced.

Of course, Holyfield should have been the best, but obviously he was shot, when Toney faced him.
I would say Roy Jones was the best boxer Toney faced.
Holyfield was better than Roy.
Holyfield was better than Roy in general, but at the moment of facing Toney it was Roy, who was credible, while Holyfield was faded.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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:lol:
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Oh my, it looks like there's enough bizarre wacko, who sees Holyfied of Toney's bout version better than prime Roy.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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While of course it was no peak Holyfield, he wasn't gone either, and despite the size difference, Toney was top class that night.
I actually thought that Toney would win the title at that point in such a weak division.
Unfortunately between injury and bans his time went
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Re: James Toney's best win

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DrDuke wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 11:53 Oh my, it looks like there's enough bizarre wacko, who sees Holyfied of Toney's bout version better than prime Roy.
:lol:
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Re: James Toney's best win

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IdiOTO being himself. :OhYes:
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Re: James Toney's best win

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:zzz:
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 11:49:lol:
You dispute what he claimed there? Made perfect sense to me.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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gilgamesh wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:16
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 11:49:lol:
You dispute what he claimed there? Made perfect sense to me.
I laughed that he felt the need to explain evander wasn't prime for toney. It wasnt wrong, it was pointless.
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