James Toney's best win

Which one?

UD10 Sanderline Williams
0
No votes
SD12 Merqui Sosa
0
No votes
TKO11 Michael Nunn (IBF MW title)
17
59%
SD12 Reggie Johnson (IBF MW title)
0
No votes
TKO4 Francesco Dell'Aquila (IBF MW title)
0
No votes
SD12 Dave Tiberi (IBF MW title)
1
3%
UD12 Glenn Wolfe (IBF MW title)
0
No votes
MD12 Mike McCallum (IBF MW title)
2
7%
RTD9 Iran Barkley (IBF SMW title)
0
No votes
UD12 Tony Thornton (IBF SMW title)
0
No votes
TKO4 Tim Littles (IBF SMW title)
0
No votes
KO12 Charles Williams (IBF SMW title)
0
No votes
UD12 Mike McCallum
2
7%
TKO10 Adolpho Washington
0
No votes
UD12 Vassiliy Jirov (IBF CW title)
2
7%
TKO9 Evander Holyfield
4
14%
UD12 John Ruiz (WBA HW title, turned to NC)
0
No votes
TKO3 Hasim Rahman (turned to NC)
0
No votes
SD12 Fres Oquendo
0
No votes
Other
1
3%
 
Total votes: 29

DrDuke
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:18
gilgamesh wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:16
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 11:49:lol:
You dispute what he claimed there? Made perfect sense to me.
I laughed that he felt the need to explain evander wasn't prime for toney. It wasnt wrong, it was pointless.
Holy sh!t, acknowledging that and at the same time calling Holyfield the best Toney faced is even more wacky. Just a total wacko of all wackos.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:18
gilgamesh wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:16
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 11:49:lol:
You dispute what he claimed there? Made perfect sense to me.
I laughed that he felt the need to explain evander wasn't prime for toney. It wasnt wrong, it was pointless.
Got ya :TU:
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Re: James Toney's best win

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DrDuke wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:25
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:18
gilgamesh wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:16

You dispute what he claimed there? Made perfect sense to me.
I laughed that he felt the need to explain evander wasn't prime for toney. It wasnt wrong, it was pointless.
Holy sh!t, acknowledging that and at the same time calling Holyfield the best Toney faced is even more wacky. Just a total wacko of all wackos.
He said Nunn was his best win.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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gilgamesh wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:26
DrDuke wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:25
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:18

I laughed that he felt the need to explain evander wasn't prime for toney. It wasnt wrong, it was pointless.
Holy sh!t, acknowledging that and at the same time calling Holyfield the best Toney faced is even more wacky. Just a total wacko of all wackos.
He said Nunn was his best win.
Yes, but later he claimed that Holyfield was the best boxer Toney faced instead of Roy.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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DrDuke wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:25
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:18
gilgamesh wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 13:16

You dispute what he claimed there? Made perfect sense to me.
I laughed that he felt the need to explain evander wasn't prime for toney. It wasnt wrong, it was pointless.
Holy sh!t, acknowledging that and at the same time calling Holyfield the best Toney faced is even more wacky. Just a total wacko of all wackos.
:zzz:
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Re: James Toney's best win

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Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 11:38
pound per pound wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 02:19
DrDuke wrote: 25 Sep 2020, 16:51 Probably I gotta go with Nunn too.

I like his performances against Barkley and Jirov more, but both those guys were made for Toney, while against Nunn Toney had to go for it. Nunn was the best boxer Toney faced.

Of course, Holyfield should have been the best, but obviously he was shot, when Toney faced him.
I would say Roy Jones was the best boxer Toney faced.
Holyfield was better than Roy.
No way, not at his age. Nor at his best. Roy is the better p4p fighter.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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pound per pound wrote: 28 Sep 2020, 17:05
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 11:38
pound per pound wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 02:19

I would say Roy Jones was the best boxer Toney faced.
Holyfield was better than Roy.
No way, not at his age. Nor at his best. Roy is the better p4p fighter.
That is arguable, evander is clearly more accomplished.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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pound per pound wrote: 28 Sep 2020, 17:05
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 11:38
pound per pound wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 02:19

I would say Roy Jones was the best boxer Toney faced.
Holyfield was better than Roy.
No way, not at his age. Nor at his best. Roy is the better p4p fighter.
Holyfield's resume had more big names.
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Re: James Toney's best win

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DrDuke wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 06:49
Autobarn wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 06:21 Great points. Nothing decisive and Toney was the Canelo of the ‘90s, receiving the benefit of the doubt in razor thin or competitive fights.
Well, not always. I'd say, Toney edged in both Griffin fights, but both were scored against him.
Definitely, once his bubblehad burst, the close decisions could go against him.

He did struggle vs Griffin nonetheless, his feet often out of position and stumbling badly after throwing punches. Although he arguably landed cleaner punches, he did not look good in a close pair of fights.
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Ambling Alp II wrote: 25 Sep 2020, 22:23 Nunn. Always wished there was a rematch.
The first one was a classic why wasn’t there a Re-match? I think Nunn with an adjustment could have taken it.
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Ambling Alp II wrote: 25 Sep 2020, 22:23 Nunn. Always wished there was a rematch.
Nunn would have won the re-match, Although these come from behind Ko's are fun to watch Nunn was clearly the better boxer
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