Danny Williams retires

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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 29 Sep 2020, 12:31
TheGman wrote: 29 Sep 2020, 11:44 Danny can fornicate off he got paid handsomely for his fights,the tyson win alone would of set him up for life with all his sponsors and meet and greet for about 12months after the fight then the vitali fight,high profile british title fights commonwealth title fights against Sprott,Harrison and Skelton must of made him £100,000 in old money at least for the 5 or 6 fights he had with them,it will take me about 11 years to earn that type of money in todays currency. Iv paid my way with Danny Williams,greatest memory of him was him winning (think it was the WBU heavyweight title) with one arm,knocking out harrison in the 12th round and him k.oing Mike Tyson. I remember being in the gym before that fight and people laughed when i said dont be suprised if Danny Williams knocks out Tyson.
Actually not true.

Danny in the end got 50,000 for the Tyson fight, allegedly paid it out of his pocket as the promoter didnt cough up.

I won 300 quid on danny knocking mike out. I'd I'd also bet on round 4 ko, I'd have made a lot more.
I dont know what he got paid for the tyson fight but what he got after it was a hell of a lot of money,the guy knocked out mike tyson lol.

I wish id of put money on it cause I just had a feeling he was gonna do it but im too tight to place a bet incase it doesnt come in haha.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Sep 2020, 12:35 Promoters suspiciously list Danny Williams' purse as only $300,000! - 2004

By Scott Shaffer and G. Leon

As the WBC heavyweight title bout between Vitali Klitschko and Danny Williams approaches, it appears that there is a four-way conspiracy between Williams and three boxing promoters, Klitschko’s K2 Promotions, Bob Arum’s Top Rank and allegedly’s Sports Network Limited to make it appear that Danny Williams will receive only $300,000 to face Klitschko, when, according to evidence obtained by Boxingtalk, his purse is much closer to $2 million.

According to documents submitted to the Nevada Athletic Commission, Williams will be paid just $300,000. On face value alone, the reported figure is not credible. Williams is fighting for a recognized heavyweight championship of the world and he is one of the hottest commodities in the sport after knocking out Mike Tyson, the world’s most famous boxer this summer. Appearances aside, Boxingtalk is in possession of credible evidence that the $300,000 figure that has been submitted to the Nevada Athletic Commission and the Internal Revenue Service is bogus. That evidence consists of a September 1, 2004 letter written by Warren to Williams on Sports Network stationery stating that Sports Network would pay Williams 1 million British pounds to challenge Klitschko. At current exchange rates, that figure works out to more than $1.9 million. The version obtained by Boxingtalk was not signed by Williams, but Williams would have to be a pretty poor negotiator to start with an offer of $1.9 million and wind up signing for $300,000.

Warren's letter also states that Williams “has agreed to enter into a Management Agreement with allegedly to be his exclusive manager from today’s date.” It is illegal under United States law for one person to serve as both manager and promoter to a boxer.

The discrepancy of over $1.6 million in Williams’ purse opens the door to speculation that Williams and the three promoters are defrauding the IRS and William’s ex-manager Dwight Yarde by reporting the artificially deflated purse figure. Ron DiNicola, an attorney representing K2 said on Thursday, “Sports Network has indicated to us and other authorities, including the IRS that Williams’ will receive $300,000. It is my understanding that Sports Network has provided documentation of this to the authorities. We relied on Sports Network and Danny Williams to tell us what their arrangement is.”

To complicate matters further, because Klitschko owns an interest in K2 and is the person fighting Williams, and Nevada Athletic Commission regulations forbid a boxer from paying his opponent, a co-promoter had to be brought in to pay Williams. That co-promoter is Top Rank, who filed a bout agreement with the Nevada Athletic Commission saying that it will pay Williams a purse of $300,000. According to the commission’s executive director Marc Ratner, his duty of inquiry ends there. “As long as I have a bout agreement for $300,000 and a check for $300,000, then I have done my fiduciary duty.” The IRS, which seems to be taking a more active interest in the Nevada boxing scene lately may not be satisfied as easily as Ratner. The IRS, which seized Marco Antonio Barrera’s million-dollar purse last month for unpaid taxes, has assigned a senior tax advisor named Cecille Glunt to this matter. Glunt had not yet returned Boxingtalk’s telephone call at the time this story was posted.

Following the money trail backwards, the source is HBO, who pays what is known as licensing fees to promoters in order to secure the rights to televise the boxing matches. HBO will broadcast the bout on a pay-per-view basis. According to DiNicola, HBO paid Top Rank directly for Williams’ purse. However, HBO also paid licensing fees to K2 and DiNicola said that part of the HBO licensing fee K2 received went to secure Williams’ appearance.

Surprisingly, DiNicola said K2 secured William’s rights not from Warren and the Sports Network, but from Sportfive, a German company who had previously done business with the Klitschko Brothers. DiNicola said that Sportfive acquired the rights to Williams from the Sports Network.

According to its own website, Sportfive GmbH, formerly, is the German subsidiary of Sportfive S.A., an international marketing group founded in 2001 when the sports rights operations of the RTL Group, Groupe Canal+ and Groupe Jean-Claude Darmon were merged. Listed on Euronex in Paris and with more than 20 subsidiaries in thirteen countries, the group’s offerings include an extensive range of international television and sports marketing rights. Interestingly, Warren apparently sold Williams’ rights to a company specializing in foreign television rights at a time when Chris Webb, who promoted the Williams-Tyson bout, has asserted a claim against Warren in a Kentucky federal court alleging that Warren promised to pay Webb’s Straight Out Promotions a portion of the foreign television rights on Williams’ future fights. More importantly, Webb is suing Warren over co-promotional rights on Williams for three fights, this Saturday night's bout with Klitschko being the first.

Meanwhile, Williams has been sued this week by manager, Dwight Yarde, who has a contract giving him the rights to 20% of Williams’ ring earnings. Arum was reportedly served with a copy of the lawsuit, meaning he and his company had notice of Williams’ obligation to pay Yarde at the time the Top Rank bout agreement was submitted to the commission.

Putting the pieces of the puzzle together, and several pieces are still missing as of Thursday night, it seems that if the stated purse for Williams is accepted by the commission and the IRS, then 1) the IRS will only collect taxes on $300,000 instead of the $1.9 million; 2) a large portion of the licensing fee will be funneled to Sportfive in Germany, under a deal which Warren presumably profited from to the detriment of Webb; 3) Warren may be making money off the promotional and managerial ends of Williams’ contracts in violation of United States law; 4) Yarde’s 20% share, if upheld by in court, will only amount to $60,000 instead of $380,000; and 5) Top Rank and K2 may have assisted Williams and Warren in committing fraud by submitting documents to governmental authorities that turned out to be untrue. Although Boxingtalk has no evidence that Top Rank and K2 did so knowingly, as experienced participants in the boxing industry, they had every reason to know that the reported purse of $300,000 to Williams was not credible.
You can always count on boxing eh? Nothings ever quite as it seems.
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It's sad if Williams is now broke but he's earn't more money in one fight than most people would earn in 10+ years.
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Is the point of the earlier posts not that he hasn’t done that.
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If Williams bought a house around the Brixton area after the Klit fight, it would have prob cost about 350k and be worth over a million now.
It's lot liquid cash but he isn't going to starve.
Maybe turning up in Germany or wherever a few times a years pays much better than work on site or in a supermarket and is much less work, and it suits him to keep up his lifestyle in this way.
For his daughters, growing up in a nice house, having every opportunity through their education and having a hefty inheritance in the future, they have a lot to be thankful for.
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I had no idea he was still active. Hadn't seen him fight for 15yrs.
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Interesting bit I saw from Tony Jeffries, how he invested in a house's during his career now has them paid off and paying him a decent monthly earning.
He seemed to have his head in the future all through his career as short as it was.
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Interesting, never heard of a boxer doing real estate before
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And lol did Tony even earn enough for a house during his boxing career? he hardly went anywhere as a pro tbh and had a very short one
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margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Oct 2020, 01:47 And lol did Tony even earn enough for a house during his boxing career? he hardly went anywhere as a pro tbh and had a very short one
Sunderland has vastly different house prices to London....
You can get a house now for £50,000. Training the likes of Robbie Williams and Mickey Rourke should bring that in.
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mickey1975 wrote: 03 Oct 2020, 02:57
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Oct 2020, 01:47 And lol did Tony even earn enough for a house during his boxing career? he hardly went anywhere as a pro tbh and had a very short one
Sunderland has vastly different house prices to London....
You can get a house now for £50,000. Training the likes of Robbie Williams and Mickey Rourke should bring that in.
Could Robbie Williams now beat Danny Williams is the question? 😀
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He's still a youth compared to Oliver McCall
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He won't be broke but probably doesn't have as much money as he would like but who has that, eh? Those bills just keep on comin' :shame:
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did anyone see Danny was back in the ring in December losing a decision against Serdar Avci in Ukraine
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Old bones Ian wrote: 17 Feb 2022, 11:31 did anyone see Danny was back in the ring in December losing a decision against Serdar Avci in Ukraine
Oh ffs
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Old bones Ian wrote: 17 Feb 2022, 11:31 did anyone see Danny was back in the ring in December losing a decision against Serdar Avci in Ukraine

Bizarre affair all round (as are many of Danny's overseas jaunts) billed as an eight rounder, Danny turns up at his lightest weight since Gammer, fight is announced as six rounder on the night, Avci is terrible, slapping with everything he throws, Danny starts openly mocking a clearly tiring Avci in the fourth, Danny is ready to come out for round five, but Avci is having his gloves remove.

Both fighters are called to the centre of the ring, I watch expecting a win for Danny due to Avci appearing to have retired.

Avci on points :neutral:
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I watched a live stream, but all I can find on YT are these highlights



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When you find yourself trapped in a corner……
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Seen the shape he was in ?

Image

Impressive for 48
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His kids are in year 62 at private school.
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About time!

Was in good shape though :TU:
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mickey1975 wrote: 17 Feb 2022, 13:32 His kids are in year 62 at private school.
:lol:
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I've found a documentary about the fight, it's very produced I must say.

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I was listening to the Tris Dixon podcast with Matt Chrisite recently, I can't remember which one said it but apparently Danny Williams told one of them personally that he was a shot fighter back in 2009 (might be wrong on the year but around that time)





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I'd say Danny was pulling his shots there
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