Beaten in Britain

John_newman · Post by **John_newman** » 01 Oct 2020, 12:45

Onamastus wrote: ↑29 Sep 2020, 12:46 Does anyone understand john_newman's contributions to this thread? His remarks all seem to be apropos of nothing.

Seriously?

evrenb · Post by **evrenb** » 01 Oct 2020, 15:34

Onamastus wrote: ↑29 Sep 2020, 12:46 Does anyone understand john_newman's contributions to this thread? His remarks all seem to be apropos of nothing.

I haven't the foggiest what he is blathering on about except that maybe, he has put his reply into a translator via four different languages then finally into English...and hey presto...gibberish!

Caractacus · Post by **Caractacus** » 01 Oct 2020, 15:42

Fray Bentos · Post by **Fray Bentos** » 01 Oct 2020, 20:42

Joe Erskine and Brian London beat Willie Pastrano

Henry Cooper outpointed Zora Folley who was top three at the time, Folley poleaxed Cooper in the rematch

John H. Stracey beat Little Red Lopez

Billy Walker beat Leotis Martin

Charlie Magri beat Santos Laciar - that is an excellent win in retrospect

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 02 Oct 2020, 03:29

Fray Bentos wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 20:42 Joe Erskine and Brian London beat Willie Pastrano

Henry Cooper outpointed Zora Folley who was top three at the time, Folley poleaxed Cooper in the rematch

John H. Stracey beat Little Red Lopez

Billy Walker beat Leotis Martin

Charlie Magri beat Santos Laciar - that is an excellent win in retrospect

Ernie Lopez? Good call on magri.

Fray Bentos · Post by **Fray Bentos** » 02 Oct 2020, 03:52

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 03:29
Fray Bentos wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 20:42 Joe Erskine and Brian London beat Willie Pastrano

Henry Cooper outpointed Zora Folley who was top three at the time, Folley poleaxed Cooper in the rematch

John H. Stracey beat Little Red Lopez

Billy Walker beat Leotis Martin

Charlie Magri beat Santos Laciar - that is an excellent win in retrospect
Ernie Lopez? Good call on magri.

Just looked it up now, Indian Red (Ernie) Little Red was his brother

I remember reading in Jim Watt's autobiography that he was going to fight on the undercard of Earnie Shavers vs Richard Dunn but it was shelved. Just as well I suppose!

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 02 Oct 2020, 03:57

Fray Bentos wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 03:52
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 03:29
Fray Bentos wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 20:42 Joe Erskine and Brian London beat Willie Pastrano

Henry Cooper outpointed Zora Folley who was top three at the time, Folley poleaxed Cooper in the rematch

John H. Stracey beat Little Red Lopez

Billy Walker beat Leotis Martin

Charlie Magri beat Santos Laciar - that is an excellent win in retrospect
Ernie Lopez? Good call on magri.

Just looked it up now, Indian Red (Ernie) Little Red was his brother

I remember reading in Jim Watt's autobiography that he was going to fight on the undercard of Earnie Shavers vs Richard Dunn but it was shelved. Just as well I suppose!

IStracey would have done horrible things to Danny. Lol, I didn't know they were related.

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 02 Oct 2020, 04:37

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 03:29
Fray Bentos wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 20:42 Joe Erskine and Brian London beat Willie Pastrano

Henry Cooper outpointed Zora Folley who was top three at the time, Folley poleaxed Cooper in the rematch

John H. Stracey beat Little Red Lopez

Billy Walker beat Leotis Martin

Charlie Magri beat Santos Laciar - that is an excellent win in retrospect
Ernie Lopez? Good call on magri.

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 02 Oct 2020, 04:42

Fray Bentos wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 20:42 Joe Erskine and Brian London beat Willie Pastrano

Henry Cooper outpointed Zora Folley who was top three at the time, Folley poleaxed Cooper in the rematch

John H. Stracey beat Little Red Lopez

Billy Walker beat Leotis Martin

Charlie Magri beat Santos Laciar - that is an excellent win in retrospect

Wasn't that Thad Spencer?

Fray Bentos · Post by **Fray Bentos** » 02 Oct 2020, 04:50

Flump wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 04:42
Fray Bentos wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 20:42 Joe Erskine and Brian London beat Willie Pastrano

Henry Cooper outpointed Zora Folley who was top three at the time, Folley poleaxed Cooper in the rematch

John H. Stracey beat Little Red Lopez

Billy Walker beat Leotis Martin

Charlie Magri beat Santos Laciar - that is an excellent win in retrospect
Wasn't that Thad Spencer?

It might have been, I am getting them all mixed up!

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 02 Oct 2020, 04:51

Fray Bentos wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 04:50
Flump wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 04:42
Fray Bentos wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 20:42 Joe Erskine and Brian London beat Willie Pastrano

Henry Cooper outpointed Zora Folley who was top three at the time, Folley poleaxed Cooper in the rematch

John H. Stracey beat Little Red Lopez

Billy Walker beat Leotis Martin

Charlie Magri beat Santos Laciar - that is an excellent win in retrospect
Wasn't that Thad Spencer?
It might have been, I am getting them all mixed up!

Easily done. Would loved to have seen that fight between the two at the Albert Hall.

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 02 Oct 2020, 04:58

Nonito Donaire by Carl Frampton

Gerrie Coetzee by Frank Bruno

Frankie Randall by Edwin Rosario

Vinnie Pazienza by Herol Graham

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 02 Oct 2020, 05:07

anyone mentioned Ayub Kalule losing to Herol Graham?

Onamastus · Post by **Onamastus** » 02 Oct 2020, 05:45

Flump wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 04:58 Frankie Randall by Edwin Rosario

I'm afraid I am going to have to disallow this one

Fray Bentos · Post by **Fray Bentos** » 02 Oct 2020, 06:34

Noel Quarless outpointed Big John Tate.

Fray Bentos · Post by **Fray Bentos** » 02 Oct 2020, 06:39

Ken Buchanan beat Carlos Ortiz in a non-title fight in London.

Bladder · Post by **Bladder** » 02 Oct 2020, 07:29

I'll throw in Karl Taylor's win over Dingaan Thobela.

Thobela had been a world champion at lightweight the year before and would go on to be a world champion again at super-middle, whereas Taylor would win only 4 of his following 130 fights.

Fray Bentos · Post by **Fray Bentos** » 02 Oct 2020, 07:34

Bladder wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 07:29 I'll throw in Karl Taylor's win over Dingaan Thobela.

Thobela had been a world champion at lightweight the year before and would go on to be a world champion again at super-middle, whereas Taylor would win only 4 of his following 130 fights.

Excellent one that! An amazing result too!

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 02 Oct 2020, 08:02

Bladder wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 07:29 I'll throw in Karl Taylor's win over Dingaan Thobela.

Thobela had been a world champion at lightweight the year before and would go on to be a world champion again at super-middle, whereas Taylor would win only 4 of his following 130 fights.

fcking hell thats a good shout

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 02 Oct 2020, 10:16

Fray Bentos wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 06:39 Ken Buchanan beat Carlos Ortiz in a non-title fight in London.

I feel like I'm victimising you Fray Bentos, but that was in MSG...

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 02 Oct 2020, 10:16

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 08:02
Bladder wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 07:29 I'll throw in Karl Taylor's win over Dingaan Thobela.

Thobela had been a world champion at lightweight the year before and would go on to be a world champion again at super-middle, whereas Taylor would win only 4 of his following 130 fights.
fcking hell thats a good shout

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 02 Oct 2020, 10:18

Onamastus wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 05:45
Flump wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 04:58 Frankie Randall by Edwin Rosario
I'm afraid I am going to have to disallow this one

Fray Bentos · Post by **Fray Bentos** » 02 Oct 2020, 10:18

Flump wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 10:16
Fray Bentos wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 06:39 Ken Buchanan beat Carlos Ortiz in a non-title fight in London.
I feel like I'm victimising you Fray Bentos, but that was in MSG...

I thought it might have been then I thought that was Donato Paduno...

He beat Carlos Hernandez in London...

I am here to be corrected in the 'boxing history' forum

please do it when applicable!

Caractacus · Post by **Caractacus** » 03 Oct 2020, 12:52

Lee Oma by Bruce Woodcock (1948)

evrenb · Post by **evrenb** » 03 Oct 2020, 13:06

Caractacus wrote: ↑03 Oct 2020, 12:52 Lee Oma by Bruce Woodcock (1948)

I got the 16mm of that fight ...had a very famous newspaper headline ...anyone remember???

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