Look above. Not Visa. But medicals. Same reason the Pfeifer was called off.
They said Pfeifers team did not submit them or something and Pfeifers team said they did on time bla bla.
Look above. Not Visa. But medicals. Same reason the Pfeifer was called off.
It's a good thing you're not his matchmaker because all of those guys put another loss on his record. At this stage, I'd be hesitant in putting him in with somebody like Christian Hammer.Grilling Machine wrote: ↑02 Jan 2020, 17:48 Yeah, he went out swinging in the fifth and showed heart in doing so, but he was boxing like someone who realised he was physically outmatched. No shame in that, but it was more one-sided than most of us predicted.
I'd like to see him aiming for the likes of Hunter and Hrgovic and maybe winning a title somewhere, because I think those guys are about his ceiling. Not everyone has to be elite to have a successful, praiseworthy career. Chisora's a fan-favourite, as was Danny Williams.
He's popular because of his fighting style when he gets the KO's, he's popular because of the way he talks, what he says, the things he does at pressers.Grilling Machine wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:10 I was saying that Chisora's quite popular despite his losses, so Gorman losing another couple wouldn't be the end of the world if they were entertaining fights.
And I wouldn't put him straight in with the other two, I'd be steering him towards peaking at that level. Like I said, I think they might be his ceiling for the possibility of a win. In tip-top shape I'd put him in with Duhaupas, but he's busy with Yoka, so I'd try for Schwarz. His record looks better than it is on paper, there's a marketing link with Fury, and it's very winnable.
Chisora's hard as nails, too. Look at the calibre of fighter he's been in with, disregarding the fact that they might have beaten him. Vitali Klitschko, David Haye, Tyson Fury twice, Dillian Whyte. Only Fury, the absolute best In the world, had an easy time with him.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:43He's popular because of his fighting style when he gets the KO's, he's popular because of the way he talks, what he says, the things he does at pressers.Grilling Machine wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:10 I was saying that Chisora's quite popular despite his losses, so Gorman losing another couple wouldn't be the end of the world if they were entertaining fights.
And I wouldn't put him straight in with the other two, I'd be steering him towards peaking at that level. Like I said, I think they might be his ceiling for the possibility of a win. In tip-top shape I'd put him in with Duhaupas, but he's busy with Yoka, so I'd try for Schwarz. His record looks better than it is on paper, there's a marketing link with Fury, and it's very winnable.
Gorman has not got any of that though.
And you just know that he has no fear of any on them and in a street fight may well beat a lot of them.Cyclops wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 18:02Chisora's hard as nails, too. Look at the calibre of fighter he's been in with, disregarding the fact that they might have beaten him. Vitali Klitschko, David Haye, Tyson Fury twice, Dillian Whyte. Only Fury, the absolute best In the world, had an easy time with him.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:43He's popular because of his fighting style when he gets the KO's, he's popular because of the way he talks, what he says, the things he does at pressers.Grilling Machine wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:10 I was saying that Chisora's quite popular despite his losses, so Gorman losing another couple wouldn't be the end of the world if they were entertaining fights.
And I wouldn't put him straight in with the other two, I'd be steering him towards peaking at that level. Like I said, I think they might be his ceiling for the possibility of a win. In tip-top shape I'd put him in with Duhaupas, but he's busy with Yoka, so I'd try for Schwarz. His record looks better than it is on paper, there's a marketing link with Fury, and it's very winnable.
Gorman has not got any of that though.
Haye had a relatively easy time with him too, I think that shows how short of truly world level Whyte is.Cyclops wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 18:02Chisora's hard as nails, too. Look at the calibre of fighter he's been in with, disregarding the fact that they might have beaten him. Vitali Klitschko, David Haye, Tyson Fury twice, Dillian Whyte. Only Fury, the absolute best In the world, had an easy time with him.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:43He's popular because of his fighting style when he gets the KO's, he's popular because of the way he talks, what he says, the things he does at pressers.Grilling Machine wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:10 I was saying that Chisora's quite popular despite his losses, so Gorman losing another couple wouldn't be the end of the world if they were entertaining fights.
And I wouldn't put him straight in with the other two, I'd be steering him towards peaking at that level. Like I said, I think they might be his ceiling for the possibility of a win. In tip-top shape I'd put him in with Duhaupas, but he's busy with Yoka, so I'd try for Schwarz. His record looks better than it is on paper, there's a marketing link with Fury, and it's very winnable.
Gorman has not got any of that though.
And Pulev, I suppose. That fights a bit dodge to me.
That was a decent version of Haye thoughCoco wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 11:57Haye had a relatively easy time with him too, I think that shows how short of truly world level Whyte is.Cyclops wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 18:02Chisora's hard as nails, too. Look at the calibre of fighter he's been in with, disregarding the fact that they might have beaten him. Vitali Klitschko, David Haye, Tyson Fury twice, Dillian Whyte. Only Fury, the absolute best In the world, had an easy time with him.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:43
He's popular because of his fighting style when he gets the KO's, he's popular because of the way he talks, what he says, the things he does at pressers.
Gorman has not got any of that though.
And Pulev, I suppose. That fights a bit dodge to me.
Yeh but this is Whyte in his prime..Frostieballs wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 18:08That was a decent version of Haye thoughCoco wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 11:57Haye had a relatively easy time with him too, I think that shows how short of truly world level Whyte is.Cyclops wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 18:02
Chisora's hard as nails, too. Look at the calibre of fighter he's been in with, disregarding the fact that they might have beaten him. Vitali Klitschko, David Haye, Tyson Fury twice, Dillian Whyte. Only Fury, the absolute best In the world, had an easy time with him.
And Pulev, I suppose. That fights a bit dodge to me.
Its his own fault, because he was so cautious as a heavyweight, but Haye was really quite a dangerous dude and even though he was the first person to properly KO Chisora I was there that night and Dereck gave him plenty of trouble. It wasn't 'easy' at all. It was exciting and seemed pretty even until he banged him out. Fury in the rematch (which again I was there for) toyed with him so much it was boring.Frostieballs wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 18:08That was a decent version of Haye thoughCoco wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 11:57Haye had a relatively easy time with him too, I think that shows how short of truly world level Whyte is.Cyclops wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 18:02
Chisora's hard as nails, too. Look at the calibre of fighter he's been in with, disregarding the fact that they might have beaten him. Vitali Klitschko, David Haye, Tyson Fury twice, Dillian Whyte. Only Fury, the absolute best In the world, had an easy time with him.
And Pulev, I suppose. That fights a bit dodge to me.
That rematch was really disappointing. I looked forward to it after the competitive nature of the first fight, but it was a different Chisora in there.Cyclops wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 18:38Its his own fault, because he was so cautious as a heavyweight, but Haye was really quite a dangerous dude and even though he was the first person to properly KO Chisora I was there that night and Dereck gave him plenty of trouble. It wasn't 'easy' at all. It was exciting and seemed pretty even until he banged him out. Fury in the rematch (which again I was there for) toyed with him so much it was boring.
I think, in retrospect, it was more of a case of a different Fury.Frostieballs wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 19:19That rematch was really disappointing. I looked forward to it after the competitive nature of the first fight, but it was a different Chisora in there.Cyclops wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 18:38Its his own fault, because he was so cautious as a heavyweight, but Haye was really quite a dangerous dude and even though he was the first person to properly KO Chisora I was there that night and Dereck gave him plenty of trouble. It wasn't 'easy' at all. It was exciting and seemed pretty even until he banged him out. Fury in the rematch (which again I was there for) toyed with him so much it was boring.
I will have to watch it back, but I defo remember thinking Chisora had chances/spells in the first fight where he could have turned things in his favour.... but not thinking that once in the second fight.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Sep 2020, 19:45 The first fight wasn't really competitive either, Chis had a good second round but then gassed and got beat up inside for pretty much the rest of the fight and looked stoppable in the last few. Fury really is handy inside when he wants to fight there, he is stylistically the most complete heavy by miles atm
Of course winning maybe 2 rounds is better than winning 0 like the rematch, so maybe that gives the impression the first fight was competitive
Often, I just remember a sense of something as opposed to detail. Think it’s my age!margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Sep 2020, 01:22 I recall that he had a big burst in the second, where he rocked Fury a bit, but then was pretty much gassed and couldn't muster anything after that, and took a progressively one-sided beating up close. His lack of conditioning was very evident. came better shape for the rematch but Fury just wouldnt let him get close enough for anything
WAS infinitely more talented.polecateddy wrote: ↑30 Dec 2019, 17:44 It's not writing someone off to say one day he might win British and Commonwealth. That's an achievement. Not everyone gets to fight for world titles. There's heavyweights around like Efe Ajagba, who is only slightly older and infinitely more talented.
He also had a big eye-catching burst in the 10th, but Fury took most of it on the gloves and was back in control by the end of the round.Frostieballs wrote: ↑13 Sep 2020, 05:15Often, I just remember a sense of something as opposed to detail. Think it’s my age!margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Sep 2020, 01:22 I recall that he had a big burst in the second, where he rocked Fury a bit, but then was pretty much gassed and couldn't muster anything after that, and took a progressively one-sided beating up close. His lack of conditioning was very evident. came better shape for the rematch but Fury just wouldnt let him get close enough for anything
This would explain why I had a feeling from the first fight that Chisora has his spells.