Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
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Ruthless-RKO
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Barry McGuigan defends charging celebrities to see Frampton fights
Barry McGuigan has defended charging celebrities for tickets for major fights involving boxer Carl Frampton.
On Friday, Belfast High Court was told that golfer Rory McIlroy, singer Gary Lightbody and broadcaster Colin Murray all paid for tickets for US fights.
Mr Frampton's barrister said he was not told that VIPs were being charged.
Mr McGuigan, who managed Mr Frampton at the time, defended the ticket policy, saying: "Sometimes celebrities pay for tickets, sometimes they don't."
'Nobody spoke to Frampton'
The court was given details from a Cyclone Promotions bank account which indicated payments for tickets had come from a number of people including:
•£1,280 from Rory McIlroy
•£2,000 from Gary Lightbody
•£750 from Colin Murray
When asked about the payments, Mr McGuigan suggested they may have been buying tickets for their friends rather than themselves.
Mr Frampton's barrister Gavin Millar QC put it to him: "Nobody spoke to Mr Frampton about these people being charged for tickets."
Mr McGuigan responded saying ticket revenue was important, adding: "Otherwise, why don't you let everyone in for free?"
'You don't give tickets away'
One of the fights was the 2017 world title bout in Las Vegas, in which Mr Frampton fought against Leo Santa Cruz.
Mr McGuigan said: "On big fights like this, you don't expect to give tickets away."
Mr Frampton is suing Mr McGuigan over alleged unpaid earnings. He, on the other hand, has been accused of a breach of contract. Both men deny any wrongdoing.
The case continues.
Barry McGuigan has defended charging celebrities for tickets for major fights involving boxer Carl Frampton.
On Friday, Belfast High Court was told that golfer Rory McIlroy, singer Gary Lightbody and broadcaster Colin Murray all paid for tickets for US fights.
Mr Frampton's barrister said he was not told that VIPs were being charged.
Mr McGuigan, who managed Mr Frampton at the time, defended the ticket policy, saying: "Sometimes celebrities pay for tickets, sometimes they don't."
'Nobody spoke to Frampton'
The court was given details from a Cyclone Promotions bank account which indicated payments for tickets had come from a number of people including:
•£1,280 from Rory McIlroy
•£2,000 from Gary Lightbody
•£750 from Colin Murray
When asked about the payments, Mr McGuigan suggested they may have been buying tickets for their friends rather than themselves.
Mr Frampton's barrister Gavin Millar QC put it to him: "Nobody spoke to Mr Frampton about these people being charged for tickets."
Mr McGuigan responded saying ticket revenue was important, adding: "Otherwise, why don't you let everyone in for free?"
'You don't give tickets away'
One of the fights was the 2017 world title bout in Las Vegas, in which Mr Frampton fought against Leo Santa Cruz.
Mr McGuigan said: "On big fights like this, you don't expect to give tickets away."
Mr Frampton is suing Mr McGuigan over alleged unpaid earnings. He, on the other hand, has been accused of a breach of contract. Both men deny any wrongdoing.
The case continues.
Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
Pretty sure that is exactly what they do in Vegas.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Oct 2020, 09:34 Barry McGuigan defends charging celebrities to see Frampton fights
Barry McGuigan has defended charging celebrities for tickets for major fights involving boxer Carl Frampton.
On Friday, Belfast High Court was told that golfer Rory McIlroy, singer Gary Lightbody and broadcaster Colin Murray all paid for tickets for US fights.
Mr Frampton's barrister said he was not told that VIPs were being charged.
Mr McGuigan, who managed Mr Frampton at the time, defended the ticket policy, saying: "Sometimes celebrities pay for tickets, sometimes they don't."
'Nobody spoke to Frampton'
The court was given details from a Cyclone Promotions bank account which indicated payments for tickets had come from a number of people including:
•£1,280 from Rory McIlroy
•£2,000 from Gary Lightbody
•£750 from Colin Murray
When asked about the payments, Mr McGuigan suggested they may have been buying tickets for their friends rather than themselves.
Mr Frampton's barrister Gavin Millar QC put it to him: "Nobody spoke to Mr Frampton about these people being charged for tickets."
Mr McGuigan responded saying ticket revenue was important, adding: "Otherwise, why don't you let everyone in for free?"
'You don't give tickets away'
One of the fights was the 2017 world title bout in Las Vegas, in which Mr Frampton fought against Leo Santa Cruz.
Mr McGuigan said: "On big fights like this, you don't expect to give tickets away."
Mr Frampton is suing Mr McGuigan over alleged unpaid earnings. He, on the other hand, has been accused of a breach of contract. Both men deny any wrongdoing.
The case continues.
Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
Would think a manager selling tickets has oppossed to giving them away , was his job , wether or not Frampton got his share is another matter
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Good on Bazza for charging the incredibly wealthy for their tickets.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
ya lol that he has to 'defend' that
oh my lawd, the shock and horror of celebrities being charged
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oh my lawd, the shock and horror of celebrities being charged
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high tower 1
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
Father Barry McGuigan : “that money was just resting in my account!” ![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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To get done once for improper directorship and then apparently make the same “mistakes” again .... hmmmmm !!
As others have said , regardless of the way this goes he comes out of it looking like a serial conman
As others have said , regardless of the way this goes he comes out of it looking like a serial conman
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Boxerbeetle
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
high tower 1 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2020, 17:29 Father Barry McGuigan : “that money was just resting in my account!”![]()
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I'm on Barry's side at the moment, but that Father Ted post was qualiteeee 
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Huge Frampton fam and dislike Mcgugian......but had there been any evidence to suggest that mcgugian shafted Carl?
As far as Mcgugian charging millionaire celebs for tickets.....f**king right he should not sure what Frampton solicitor is getting at there as it paints him in a good light not giving free tickets away. Has it come up of how Frampton was left with a 400k tax bill?
As far as Mcgugian charging millionaire celebs for tickets.....f**king right he should not sure what Frampton solicitor is getting at there as it paints him in a good light not giving free tickets away. Has it come up of how Frampton was left with a 400k tax bill?
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Yes, of all the charges against McGuigan, 'making the super rich pay for their tickets' seems the least egregious.
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mickey1975
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
Nobody thinks the celebrities should get in for free, but did Frampton know or did it go straight in Barry’s pocket?
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Ah fair enough, I thought all the ticket sales went in the same pot
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cmonyouguys
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
Fair play for making McIlroy and Lightbody pay, those two boys are loaded. But he could've given Colin Murray a discount at least. He can't be that rich.
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high tower 1
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
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high tower 1
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
Also that prior case on McGuigan and his wife dipping into the business funds previously has made my mind up on what happened.
Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
high tower 1 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 08:08 Also that prior case on McGuigan and his wife dipping into the business funds previously has made my mind up on what happened.
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Counter-puncher
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 04:52 Nobody thinks the celebrities should get in for free, but did Frampton know or did it go straight in Barry’s pocket?
I imagine once it went in Bazza’s pocket, and despite his obviously best intentions and equitable desire to eventually pay Frampton his cut, unfortunately a busy frantic life and its many demands interceded, and he forgot to make the payments. Just a typical example of how in all innocence sometimes maybe Frampton didn’t get his full cut, despite the very best intentions on Bazza’s part, his lapsing memory sadly meant that in all innocence this, and perhaps dozens of other payments, were unfortunately forgotten, in all innocence. It’s as though Bazza’s back pocket was this black hole or vortex and once the readies went in there, it played tricks on his memory. A few dozen times, in all innocence, and with the very best intentions.
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 09:39mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 04:52 Nobody thinks the celebrities should get in for free, but did Frampton know or did it go straight in Barry’s pocket?I think we can all guess
I imagine once it went in Bazza’s pocket, and despite his obviously best intentions and equitable desire to eventually pay Frampton his cut, unfortunately a busy frantic life and its many demands interceded, and he forgot to make the payments. Just a typical example of how in all innocence sometimes maybe Frampton didn’t get his full cut, despite the very best intentions on Bazza’s part, his lapsing memory sadly meant that in all innocence this, and perhaps dozens of other payments, were unfortunately forgotten, in all innocence. It’s as though Bazza’s back pocket was this black hole or vortex and once the readies went in there, it played tricks on his memory. A few dozen times, in all innocence, and with the very best intentions.
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jameswilson
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
And at the end of it declare it and let Frampton foot the tax bill...Counter-puncher wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 09:39mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 04:52 Nobody thinks the celebrities should get in for free, but did Frampton know or did it go straight in Barry’s pocket?I think we can all guess
I imagine once it went in Bazza’s pocket, and despite his obviously best intentions and equitable desire to eventually pay Frampton his cut, unfortunately a busy frantic life and its many demands interceded, and he forgot to make the payments. Just a typical example of how in all innocence sometimes maybe Frampton didn’t get his full cut, despite the very best intentions on Bazza’s part, his lapsing memory sadly meant that in all innocence this, and perhaps dozens of other payments, were unfortunately forgotten, in all innocence. It’s as though Bazza’s back pocket was this black hole or vortex and once the readies went in there, it played tricks on his memory. A few dozen times, in all innocence, and with the very best intentions.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
Don’t the promoters almost always win these cases?
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jameswilson
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
Ask Joe Calzaghe. Even when he won he won f uck all.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
Burns got burnt too didn’t he? No pun intended.
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maverick23
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
Yep - Burns got totally screwed.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 14:18Burns got burnt too didn’t he? No pun intended.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Cyclone / Frampton Court Case
Sure he made some good money with Hearn afterwards.maverick23 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 17:31Yep - Burns got totally screwed.