No sir. Tiberi won that fight.DrDuke wrote: ↑20 Sep 2020, 09:47 James Toney vs Dave Tiberi
1: Toney 10-9
2: Toney 10-9
3: Tiberi 10-9
4: Tiberi 10-9
5: Tiberi 10-9
6: Toney 10-8 (Tiberi deducted a point for a low blow)
7: Toney 10-9
8: Tiberi 10-9
9: Tiberi 10-9
10: Toney 10-9
11: 10-10
12: Tiberi 10-9
Total score: 114-114
The fight was even and it was bad, because there wasn't much of boxing. They were just wrestling inside and both weren't scoring clean much. The robbery claim is blown up because of the fact of Toney himself struggling with some unknown Tiberi, but in reality Tiberi wasn't outboxing Toney or whatever. Toney wasn't prepared well, he already began to have problems with cutting to the MW limit and he did a mistake with taking a fight just in two mounths after the hard McCallum war. Toney was forced to fight Tiberi's fight and he gased after the 2nd round, but he was often looking just tired other than hurt. There were a lot of close rounds with dirty inside hustle, with both not scoring much.
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Doug DeWitt v Dangerous Don Lee
Good fight with some tissue-paper thin rounds here. Scoring on the NY rounds basis.
Round 1: Lee
Round 2: DeWitt
Round 3: Lee
Round 4: Lee
Round 5: DeWitt
Round 6: Lee
Round 7: DeWitt
Round 8: DeWitt
Round 9: DeWitt
Round 10: DeWitt
Total: 6-4 DeWitt (actual scores: 5-5 by all 3 judges for a Draw)
When Dangerous Don had elbow room he was very dangerous and DeWitt had to run a gauntlet to get near him. But he got his timing down as the fight went on and - even though Lee was throwing more punches - DeWitt was dodging most of them. When Doug got close he negated those big shots from Lee and worked nicely infighting. I believe DeWitt should have really gone to the body more than he did, but it is what it is. Good fight and so many of these rounds were close. Nothing wrong with a draw.
Good fight with some tissue-paper thin rounds here. Scoring on the NY rounds basis.
Round 1: Lee
Round 2: DeWitt
Round 3: Lee
Round 4: Lee
Round 5: DeWitt
Round 6: Lee
Round 7: DeWitt
Round 8: DeWitt
Round 9: DeWitt
Round 10: DeWitt
Total: 6-4 DeWitt (actual scores: 5-5 by all 3 judges for a Draw)
When Dangerous Don had elbow room he was very dangerous and DeWitt had to run a gauntlet to get near him. But he got his timing down as the fight went on and - even though Lee was throwing more punches - DeWitt was dodging most of them. When Doug got close he negated those big shots from Lee and worked nicely infighting. I believe DeWitt should have really gone to the body more than he did, but it is what it is. Good fight and so many of these rounds were close. Nothing wrong with a draw.
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Robbie Sims v Iran Barkley
This was a young Barkley with 8 pro fights against a 22 bout prospect who had a lot of 10 round experience. Although I had it 3-1-1 for Sims on New Jersey's rounds scoring system after 5 rounds, I would suggest dispensing with a score as these two really went at it and this fight is meant to be enjoyed, not to look for every nuance. The 5th round alone should have been round of the year. They were like rock-em-sock-em robots that round. It appeared to be more exhaustion that took out Barkley. But don't take my word for it. Just enjoy it.
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Cornelius Boza Edwards v Terrance Alli
When I saw this first time around I felt Boza won. I still do but unfortunately my scorecard doesn't reflect that. Many close rounds. Here we go.
Round 1: 10-9 Boza
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Alli
Round 5: 10-9 Boza
Round 6: 10-9 Boza
Round 7: 10-9 Alli
Round 8: 10-9 Boza
Round 9: 10-9 Alli
Round 10: 10-9 Alli
Total: 96-96 Draw (actual scores: 96-95 Alli, 97-93 Boza and 95-95 Draw)
I would have preferred to abstain from that 10th round. Alli fought like a scared rabbit, but unfortunately - in my view - although Boza chased he didn't land anything. A crap way to end a good fight. And I still feel Boza should have felt like a winner.
When I saw this first time around I felt Boza won. I still do but unfortunately my scorecard doesn't reflect that. Many close rounds. Here we go.
Round 1: 10-9 Boza
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Alli
Round 5: 10-9 Boza
Round 6: 10-9 Boza
Round 7: 10-9 Alli
Round 8: 10-9 Boza
Round 9: 10-9 Alli
Round 10: 10-9 Alli
Total: 96-96 Draw (actual scores: 96-95 Alli, 97-93 Boza and 95-95 Draw)
I would have preferred to abstain from that 10th round. Alli fought like a scared rabbit, but unfortunately - in my view - although Boza chased he didn't land anything. A crap way to end a good fight. And I still feel Boza should have felt like a winner.
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I saw this a few weeks ago and what struck me was how good Barkley looked considering his experience and the fact he was never considered any kind of technician, his basic ring craft seemed pretty good despite his inexperience and later reputation. He was obviously quite a natural fighter I’d say.scartissue wrote: ↑06 Oct 2020, 08:39
Robbie Sims v Iran Barkley
This was a young Barkley with 8 pro fights against a 22 bout prospect who had a lot of 10 round experience. Although I had it 3-1-1 for Sims on New Jersey's rounds scoring system after 5 rounds, I would suggest dispensing with a score as these two really went at it and this fight is meant to be enjoyed, not to look for every nuance. The 5th round alone should have been round of the year. They were like rock-em-sock-em robots that round. It appeared to be more exhaustion that took out Barkley. But don't take my word for it. Just enjoy it.
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When I saw this first time around I felt Boza won. I still do but unfortunately my scorecard doesn't reflect that. Many close rounds. Here we go.
Round 1: 10-9 Boza
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Alli
Round 5: 10-9 Boza
Round 6: 10-9 Boza
Round 7: 10-9 Alli
Round 8: 10-9 Boza
Round 9: 10-9 Alli
Round 10: 10-9 Alli
Total: 96-96 Draw (actual scores: 96-95 Alli, 97-93 Boza and 95-95 Draw)
I would have preferred to abstain from that 10th round. Alli fought like a scared rabbit, but unfortunately - in my view - although Boza chased he didn't land anything. A crap way to end a good fight. And I still feel Boza should have felt like a winner as he was making this fight.
Round 1: 10-9 Boza
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Alli
Round 5: 10-9 Boza
Round 6: 10-9 Boza
Round 7: 10-9 Alli
Round 8: 10-9 Boza
Round 9: 10-9 Alli
Round 10: 10-9 Alli
Total: 96-96 Draw (actual scores: 96-95 Alli, 97-93 Boza and 95-95 Draw)
I would have preferred to abstain from that 10th round. Alli fought like a scared rabbit, but unfortunately - in my view - although Boza chased he didn't land anything. A crap way to end a good fight. And I still feel Boza should have felt like a winner as he was making this fight.
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Orlando Salido vs Vasyl Lomachenko
1: Lomachenko 10-9
2: Salido 10-9
3: Salido 10-9
4: Salido 10-9
5: Lomachenko 10-9
6: Salido 10-9
7: Lomachenko 10-9
8: Lomachenko 10-9
9: Salido 10-9
10: Lomachenko 10-9
11: Lomachenko 10-9
12: Lomachenko 10-9
Total score: Lomachenko 115-113
A close fight, I felt Lomachenko edgeing it a bit. Actually, I'd say, the range of 115-113 from a one side to another one is OK. Anyway, Lomachenko fought not only the foulish cheater, who was overweight and landing low all night long, but also a woeful referee. The ref warned Salido for low blows only twice, while he kept warning Lomachenko all the fight for some irrelevant stuff. Salido should have been warned more and DQed, if he kept violating the rules. In any case, despite being outworked, Lomachenko seemed to land more telling blows and he finished very strong. He was just adapting too slow early due to a lack of pro experience.
1: Lomachenko 10-9
2: Salido 10-9
3: Salido 10-9
4: Salido 10-9
5: Lomachenko 10-9
6: Salido 10-9
7: Lomachenko 10-9
8: Lomachenko 10-9
9: Salido 10-9
10: Lomachenko 10-9
11: Lomachenko 10-9
12: Lomachenko 10-9
Total score: Lomachenko 115-113
A close fight, I felt Lomachenko edgeing it a bit. Actually, I'd say, the range of 115-113 from a one side to another one is OK. Anyway, Lomachenko fought not only the foulish cheater, who was overweight and landing low all night long, but also a woeful referee. The ref warned Salido for low blows only twice, while he kept warning Lomachenko all the fight for some irrelevant stuff. Salido should have been warned more and DQed, if he kept violating the rules. In any case, despite being outworked, Lomachenko seemed to land more telling blows and he finished very strong. He was just adapting too slow early due to a lack of pro experience.
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Vasyl Lomachenko vs Gary Russell
1: Lomachenko 10-9
2: Lomachenko 10-9
3: Lomachenko 10-9
4: Russell 10-9
5: Lomachenko 10-9
6: Lomachenko 10-9
7: Lomachenko 10-9
8: Russell 10-9
9: Russell 10-9
10: Lomachenko 10-9
11: Lomachenko 10-9
12: Lomachenko 10-9
Total score: Lomachenko 117-111
A quite dominant performance of Lomachenko. I'm not sure, how a one of the judges came up with a draw. Yes, Russell was working like a machine and he outworked Lomachenko, but he was barely landing. Lomachenko's movement and reflexes were too much for Russell, as well as Loma's shots.
1: Lomachenko 10-9
2: Lomachenko 10-9
3: Lomachenko 10-9
4: Russell 10-9
5: Lomachenko 10-9
6: Lomachenko 10-9
7: Lomachenko 10-9
8: Russell 10-9
9: Russell 10-9
10: Lomachenko 10-9
11: Lomachenko 10-9
12: Lomachenko 10-9
Total score: Lomachenko 117-111
A quite dominant performance of Lomachenko. I'm not sure, how a one of the judges came up with a draw. Yes, Russell was working like a machine and he outworked Lomachenko, but he was barely landing. Lomachenko's movement and reflexes were too much for Russell, as well as Loma's shots.
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Recently the second fight between Jose Becerra v Alphonse Halimi was uploaded to youtube. Here we go. California used the 10 point system for the title fight.
Round 1: 10-9 Halimi
Round 2: 10-8 Halimi (scores a knockdown)
Round 3: 10-9 Halimi
Round 4: 10-9 Becerra
Round 5: 10-9 Becerra
Round 6: 10-9 Becerra
Round 7: 10-9 Becerra
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: Becerra scores a KO
Total (through 8 completed rounds): 76-76 Even (actual scores: 77-75, 78-74 and 77-73 all for Halimi)
I've always said the west coast officials were about the most even-handed and fair judges and referees I've seen where the visitor can always get a fair shake, but I'm stunned at how they leaned towards Halimi with that kind of point spread over the very favored Mexican. I didn't see this as hard fight to score but obviously I'm in the minority.
Round 1: 10-9 Halimi
Round 2: 10-8 Halimi (scores a knockdown)
Round 3: 10-9 Halimi
Round 4: 10-9 Becerra
Round 5: 10-9 Becerra
Round 6: 10-9 Becerra
Round 7: 10-9 Becerra
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: Becerra scores a KO
Total (through 8 completed rounds): 76-76 Even (actual scores: 77-75, 78-74 and 77-73 all for Halimi)
I've always said the west coast officials were about the most even-handed and fair judges and referees I've seen where the visitor can always get a fair shake, but I'm stunned at how they leaned towards Halimi with that kind of point spread over the very favored Mexican. I didn't see this as hard fight to score but obviously I'm in the minority.
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Jorge Linares vs Vasyl Lomachenko
1: Linares 10-9
2: Lomachenko 10-9
3: Lomachenko 10-9
4: Lomachenko 10-9
5: Lomachenko 10-9
6: Linares 10-8
7: Lomachenko 10-9
8: Lomachenko 10-9
9: Linares 10-9
10: Lomachenko KO
Prior to the stoppage: Lomachenko 86-84
1: Linares 10-9
2: Lomachenko 10-9
3: Lomachenko 10-9
4: Lomachenko 10-9
5: Lomachenko 10-9
6: Linares 10-8
7: Lomachenko 10-9
8: Lomachenko 10-9
9: Linares 10-9
10: Lomachenko KO
Prior to the stoppage: Lomachenko 86-84
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Rocky Lockridge v Tony Lopez I
It's funny, but most chatter on Lockridge revolves around the very controversial Pedroza, Chavez and Gomez fights. But this one was so enjoyable. Here we go. Rocky Lockridge v Tony Lopez I
Round 1: 10-9 Lopez
Round 2: 10-9 Lopez
Round 3: 10-9 Lopez
Round 4: 10-9 Rocky
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-9 Lopez
Round 7: 10-9 Lopez
Round 8: 10-8 Rocky (scores a knockdown)
Round 9: 10-9 Rocky
Round 10: 10-10 Even
Round 11: 10-9 Lopez
Round 12: 10-9 Lopez
Total: 116-113 Lopez (actual scores: 115-112, 115-112 and 116-112 all for Lopez)
This bout won fight of the year for 1988. Just a terrific see-saw bout. Rocky was on shaky pins for several rounds, seemingly being a sucker for Tony's straight right. But he did good work on the inside to his credit. When Rocky got cut it seemed like the wind came out of his sails and Tony capitalized. Just a terrific fight and I highly recommend it.
It's funny, but most chatter on Lockridge revolves around the very controversial Pedroza, Chavez and Gomez fights. But this one was so enjoyable. Here we go. Rocky Lockridge v Tony Lopez I
Round 1: 10-9 Lopez
Round 2: 10-9 Lopez
Round 3: 10-9 Lopez
Round 4: 10-9 Rocky
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-9 Lopez
Round 7: 10-9 Lopez
Round 8: 10-8 Rocky (scores a knockdown)
Round 9: 10-9 Rocky
Round 10: 10-10 Even
Round 11: 10-9 Lopez
Round 12: 10-9 Lopez
Total: 116-113 Lopez (actual scores: 115-112, 115-112 and 116-112 all for Lopez)
This bout won fight of the year for 1988. Just a terrific see-saw bout. Rocky was on shaky pins for several rounds, seemingly being a sucker for Tony's straight right. But he did good work on the inside to his credit. When Rocky got cut it seemed like the wind came out of his sails and Tony capitalized. Just a terrific fight and I highly recommend it.
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I remember this one. It was a great fight. Lopez performed well and showed a lot of guts in hanging in there after getting decked. I had Lockridge winning 114-113. Obviously they weren't going to give him the decision.
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Rewatched Canelo-Golovkin dilogy. Great fights regardless of outcomes. This time I had the impression, which I have about these fights on the majority of occasions.
#1
1: Canelo 10-9
2: Canelo 10-9
3: Golovkin 10-9
4: Golovkin 10-9
5: Golovkin 10-9
6: Golovkin 10-9
7: Golovkin 10-9
8: Golovkin 10-9
9: Canelo 10-9
10: Canelo 10-9
11: Golovkin 10-9
12: Canelo 10-9
Total score: Golovkin 115-113
Golovkin dictated the fight. Canelo was good defensively and had occasional great counters, but he blew a lot of rounds and overall he got visibly outworked and outscored by Golovkin.
#2
1: Canelo 10-9
2: Canelo 10-9
3: Canelo 10-9
4: Golovkin 10-9
5: Canelo 10-9
6: Golovkin 10-9
7: Golovkin 10-9
8: Golovkin 10-9
9: Canelo 10-9
10: Golovkin 10-9
11: Golovkin 10-9
12: Canelo 10-9
Total score: 114-114
A back-and-forth action-packed slugfest. Canelo provided more pressure, Golovkin had more work, both had about the same amount of significant damage. An either way going fight.
#1
1: Canelo 10-9
2: Canelo 10-9
3: Golovkin 10-9
4: Golovkin 10-9
5: Golovkin 10-9
6: Golovkin 10-9
7: Golovkin 10-9
8: Golovkin 10-9
9: Canelo 10-9
10: Canelo 10-9
11: Golovkin 10-9
12: Canelo 10-9
Total score: Golovkin 115-113
Golovkin dictated the fight. Canelo was good defensively and had occasional great counters, but he blew a lot of rounds and overall he got visibly outworked and outscored by Golovkin.
#2
1: Canelo 10-9
2: Canelo 10-9
3: Canelo 10-9
4: Golovkin 10-9
5: Canelo 10-9
6: Golovkin 10-9
7: Golovkin 10-9
8: Golovkin 10-9
9: Canelo 10-9
10: Golovkin 10-9
11: Golovkin 10-9
12: Canelo 10-9
Total score: 114-114
A back-and-forth action-packed slugfest. Canelo provided more pressure, Golovkin had more work, both had about the same amount of significant damage. An either way going fight.
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I checked out the 1976 Marvin Hagler v Cyclone Hart 10 rounder. A bit odd in the scoring but here we go on Philly's 5 point must system.
Hagler v Cyclone
Round 1: 5-4 Hagler
Round 2: 5-4 Hagler
Round 3: 5-3 Hagler (Hagler drops Cyclone)
Round 4: 5-4 Hagler
Round 5: 5-3 Hagler (1 point deducted from Hart for hitting after the bell)*
Round 6: 5-4 Cyclone
Round 7: 5-5 Even
Round 8: 5-5 Even
Round 9: Cyclone does not answer the bell for the 9th
*The announcers claimed 3 points had been taken from Cyclone for hitting after the bell. I only saw 2 instances of this infraction and an AP report corroborated this by saying 2 points was deducted from Hart. So my score reflects 2 points deducted although I can't recall the other round of the deduction. It was a round before the 5th, but not sure.
Total: 39-32 Hagler (after 8 completed rounds) Actual scores: 39-35, 38-35 and 38-36 all for Hagler
Not sure how the 3 Philly officials had it so much closer than I, but it is what it is. Rounds 4 and 6 were the best when Cyclone let it rip. The ending was odd with the big argument in Cyclone's corner and then he quits on his stool. Heard differing sides to this story, but still a good but not great fight. But well worth watching.
Hagler v Cyclone
Round 1: 5-4 Hagler
Round 2: 5-4 Hagler
Round 3: 5-3 Hagler (Hagler drops Cyclone)
Round 4: 5-4 Hagler
Round 5: 5-3 Hagler (1 point deducted from Hart for hitting after the bell)*
Round 6: 5-4 Cyclone
Round 7: 5-5 Even
Round 8: 5-5 Even
Round 9: Cyclone does not answer the bell for the 9th
*The announcers claimed 3 points had been taken from Cyclone for hitting after the bell. I only saw 2 instances of this infraction and an AP report corroborated this by saying 2 points was deducted from Hart. So my score reflects 2 points deducted although I can't recall the other round of the deduction. It was a round before the 5th, but not sure.
Total: 39-32 Hagler (after 8 completed rounds) Actual scores: 39-35, 38-35 and 38-36 all for Hagler
Not sure how the 3 Philly officials had it so much closer than I, but it is what it is. Rounds 4 and 6 were the best when Cyclone let it rip. The ending was odd with the big argument in Cyclone's corner and then he quits on his stool. Heard differing sides to this story, but still a good but not great fight. But well worth watching.
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i think my scorecards matched yours on these fightsDrDuke wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020, 08:16 Rewatched Canelo-Golovkin dilogy. Great fights regardless of outcomes. This time I had the impression, which I have about these fights on the majority of occasions.
#1
1: Canelo 10-9
2: Canelo 10-9
3: Golovkin 10-9
4: Golovkin 10-9
5: Golovkin 10-9
6: Golovkin 10-9
7: Golovkin 10-9
8: Golovkin 10-9
9: Canelo 10-9
10: Canelo 10-9
11: Golovkin 10-9
12: Canelo 10-9
Total score: Golovkin 115-113
Golovkin dictated the fight. Canelo was good defensively and had occasional great counters, but he blew a lot of rounds and overall he got visibly outworked and outscored by Golovkin.
#2
1: Canelo 10-9
2: Canelo 10-9
3: Canelo 10-9
4: Golovkin 10-9
5: Canelo 10-9
6: Golovkin 10-9
7: Golovkin 10-9
8: Golovkin 10-9
9: Canelo 10-9
10: Golovkin 10-9
11: Golovkin 10-9
12: Canelo 10-9
Total score: 114-114
A back-and-forth action-packed slugfest. Canelo provided more pressure, Golovkin had more work, both had about the same amount of significant damage. An either way going fight.
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Mike McCallum v Sumbu Kalambay II
Been meaning to score this one for awhile. Finally sat down to do so and, man, how close can you get? One thing I agree with the British announcers was when Ian Darke said there wasn't a lot between these rounds. Sooooo close! Anyways, here we go.
Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Kalambay
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 McCallum
Round 5: 10-9 McCallum
Round 6: 10-9 McCallum
Round 7: 10-9 Kalambay
Round 8: 10-9 Kalambay
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 McCallum
Round 11: 10-9 Kalambay
Round 12: 10-9 Kalambay
Total: 116-115 Kalambay (actual scores: 115-114 Kalambay and two scores of 116-114 for McCallum for a split decision win)
My God, regardless of my score, this was as good a draw as I have seen. Such a high level of boxing. Trying to catch every nuance and shift kept me riveted.
Been meaning to score this one for awhile. Finally sat down to do so and, man, how close can you get? One thing I agree with the British announcers was when Ian Darke said there wasn't a lot between these rounds. Sooooo close! Anyways, here we go.
Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Kalambay
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 McCallum
Round 5: 10-9 McCallum
Round 6: 10-9 McCallum
Round 7: 10-9 Kalambay
Round 8: 10-9 Kalambay
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 McCallum
Round 11: 10-9 Kalambay
Round 12: 10-9 Kalambay
Total: 116-115 Kalambay (actual scores: 115-114 Kalambay and two scores of 116-114 for McCallum for a split decision win)
My God, regardless of my score, this was as good a draw as I have seen. Such a high level of boxing. Trying to catch every nuance and shift kept me riveted.
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Yeah it’s a great technical back and forth. If you saw the Brit version you’ll have seen Mike Watson co-commentating. Fascinating to hear his near-awed regard for McCallum’s skills, he just purrs about him all fight
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That was the version I saw. And you're right, he was fawning over McCallum.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑24 Oct 2020, 13:51 Yeah it’s a great technical back and forth. If you saw the Brit version you’ll have seen Mike Watson co-commentating. Fascinating to hear his near-awed regard for McCallum’s skills, he just purrs about him all fight
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Jung Koo Chang v German Torres II
Round 1: 10-9 Torres
Round 2: 10-9 Torres
Round 3: 10-9 Torres
Round 4: 10-9 Chang
Round 5: 10-9 Torres
Round 6: 10-9 Chang
Round 7: 10-9 Torres
Round 8: 10-9 Chang
Round 9: 10-9 Chang
Round 10: 10-9 Torres
Round 11: 10-10 Even
Round 12: 10-9 Torres
Total: 116-113 Torres (actual scores: 115-114 and 116-114 both for Chang and a 114-114 for a majority win for Chang)
I'm unclear if any points were taken from Chang by Arthur Mercante. Twice he made unusual gestures that could be construed as penalization. Once in the 5th round and once in the 7th, but I am unclear. If someone knows for sure, I'd like to know. But getting to the fight. I know a lot of guys on here really like Chang, but I gotta tell you, he doesn't click with me. I was far more impressed with Torres' combos, straight rights and body shots than Chang's haymakers, which seems to be his principle attack. I know this is often referred to as one of his worst fights, so I would like to be enlightened. I have seen his bouts with Chiquita and Alfonso Lopez but if there are others that can be recommended, I'm all ears.
Round 1: 10-9 Torres
Round 2: 10-9 Torres
Round 3: 10-9 Torres
Round 4: 10-9 Chang
Round 5: 10-9 Torres
Round 6: 10-9 Chang
Round 7: 10-9 Torres
Round 8: 10-9 Chang
Round 9: 10-9 Chang
Round 10: 10-9 Torres
Round 11: 10-10 Even
Round 12: 10-9 Torres
Total: 116-113 Torres (actual scores: 115-114 and 116-114 both for Chang and a 114-114 for a majority win for Chang)
I'm unclear if any points were taken from Chang by Arthur Mercante. Twice he made unusual gestures that could be construed as penalization. Once in the 5th round and once in the 7th, but I am unclear. If someone knows for sure, I'd like to know. But getting to the fight. I know a lot of guys on here really like Chang, but I gotta tell you, he doesn't click with me. I was far more impressed with Torres' combos, straight rights and body shots than Chang's haymakers, which seems to be his principle attack. I know this is often referred to as one of his worst fights, so I would like to be enlightened. I have seen his bouts with Chiquita and Alfonso Lopez but if there are others that can be recommended, I'm all ears.
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the Kittikassem fight is a superb fight, brutal really, loads of punches landed, knockdowns, lots of very physical mauling and wrestling, and some real drama too. still not Chang at his best as late in his career but a great action fight.
the ohashi fights are very entertaining IIRC
the ohashi fights are very entertaining IIRC
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Thanks, Counter.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑26 Oct 2020, 10:13 the Kittikassem fight is a superb fight, brutal really, loads of punches landed, knockdowns, lots of very physical mauling and wrestling, and some real drama too. still not Chang at his best as late in his career but a great action fight.
the ohashi fights are very entertaining IIRC
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Petros Ananyan vs Subriel Matias
1-6 Matias
7. Ananyan 10-8 ( Ananyan scores knockdown)
8-10 Ananyan
Winner : Subriel Matias 95-94
Official scorecards : Ananyan by UD (95 - 94 x2,96-93)
1-6 Matias
7. Ananyan 10-8 ( Ananyan scores knockdown)
8-10 Ananyan
Winner : Subriel Matias 95-94
Official scorecards : Ananyan by UD (95 - 94 x2,96-93)
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Curtis Parker v Dwight Davison
Haven't watched this fight since seeing it live in 1980. The battle of undefeated. Here we go.
Round 1: 10-9 Parker
Round 2: 10-9 Parker
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Davison
Round 5: 10-9 Davison
Round 6: 10-9 Parker
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Davison
Round 9: 10-9 Davison
Round 10: 10-9 Davison
Total: 97-95 Davison (actual scores: 97-93, 97-93 and 97-94 all for Davison)
It's funny, but I always considered Davison to be a lazy fighter, despite this win. I remember his bout with Tony Sibson where Tony just wailed on him with Davison doing little. In this bout Parker started fast and looked like he was going to run away with it like he had been with his previous opponents, but then Davison really started to get leverage on those uppercuts to the head and body as Parker came charging in and Parker or his corner could never come up with a plan B. He really had one way of fighting - straight in. It's not like he was going to outjab Davison. But decent enough fight. It was over before I knew it.
Haven't watched this fight since seeing it live in 1980. The battle of undefeated. Here we go.
Round 1: 10-9 Parker
Round 2: 10-9 Parker
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Davison
Round 5: 10-9 Davison
Round 6: 10-9 Parker
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Davison
Round 9: 10-9 Davison
Round 10: 10-9 Davison
Total: 97-95 Davison (actual scores: 97-93, 97-93 and 97-94 all for Davison)
It's funny, but I always considered Davison to be a lazy fighter, despite this win. I remember his bout with Tony Sibson where Tony just wailed on him with Davison doing little. In this bout Parker started fast and looked like he was going to run away with it like he had been with his previous opponents, but then Davison really started to get leverage on those uppercuts to the head and body as Parker came charging in and Parker or his corner could never come up with a plan B. He really had one way of fighting - straight in. It's not like he was going to outjab Davison. But decent enough fight. It was over before I knew it.
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Curtis Parker v David Love
Continuing my fixation with Curtis Parker (I just seem to like this type of swarming fighter like Frankie Warren, Chillin Charley Riley, et al), here is his bout with David Love, which I also saw live back in 80. Love went into this fight with a hex over Philly fighters, having beaten Bennie Briscoe, Bobby Watts, Willie Monroe and Perry Abney. New Jersey rules - rounds basis.
Round 1: Parker
Round 2: Parker
Round 3: Love
Round 4: Parker
Round 5: Parker
Round 6: Parker
Round 7: Parker
Round 8: Parker (Parker appears to drop him at the end of the round but the ref doesn't count and just shows Love to his corner when the bell rings. I would have scored this 10-8 on the points system, but with NJ rules he just wins the round)
Round 9: Parker drops and stops Love
Total: 7-1 Parker (I don't know the official scores)
David Love was a very sharp and precise hitter. He had a very nice boxing style with a lot of heart but just couldn't keep Parker off of him. Regarding the 3rd round for Love. That wasn't a pity round, he deserved it. Good fight even though one-sided in score, because Love never stopped trying.
Continuing my fixation with Curtis Parker (I just seem to like this type of swarming fighter like Frankie Warren, Chillin Charley Riley, et al), here is his bout with David Love, which I also saw live back in 80. Love went into this fight with a hex over Philly fighters, having beaten Bennie Briscoe, Bobby Watts, Willie Monroe and Perry Abney. New Jersey rules - rounds basis.
Round 1: Parker
Round 2: Parker
Round 3: Love
Round 4: Parker
Round 5: Parker
Round 6: Parker
Round 7: Parker
Round 8: Parker (Parker appears to drop him at the end of the round but the ref doesn't count and just shows Love to his corner when the bell rings. I would have scored this 10-8 on the points system, but with NJ rules he just wins the round)
Round 9: Parker drops and stops Love
Total: 7-1 Parker (I don't know the official scores)
David Love was a very sharp and precise hitter. He had a very nice boxing style with a lot of heart but just couldn't keep Parker off of him. Regarding the 3rd round for Love. That wasn't a pity round, he deserved it. Good fight even though one-sided in score, because Love never stopped trying.