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m1kee50
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by m1kee50 »

@matt___s wrote: 13 Mar 2019, 15:09 we can search the BBBofC titles by Area... is there any chance of adding the Area filter into the fighter rankings too? So being able to see all the fighters eligible to fight for the Southern Area title at a given weight?
Is this something we can do?
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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@matt___s wrote: 24 Jul 2020, 15:50
@matt___s wrote: 13 Mar 2019, 15:09 we can search the BBBofC titles by Area... is there any chance of adding the Area filter into the fighter rankings too? So being able to see all the fighters eligible to fight for the Southern Area title at a given weight?
Is this something we can do?
Not easily, we don't have a programmatic breakdown of the areas
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Jack_Ledger »

computerrank wrote: 24 Jul 2020, 06:21
Jack_Ledger wrote: 18 Jul 2020, 21:20
computerrank wrote: 16 Jul 2020, 06:00
Thanks for the hint. I found the bug and fixed it. It will go live with the next update :TU:

What_if for females in on the list. But it needs some change in the code structure. So you will have to be patient :wave:
Gentleman!
What_if for female pro boxers live now ... :wave:
Great stuff. :TU:
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by m1kee50 »

John wrote: 02 Aug 2020, 03:46
@matt___s wrote: 24 Jul 2020, 15:50
@matt___s wrote: 13 Mar 2019, 15:09 we can search the BBBofC titles by Area... is there any chance of adding the Area filter into the fighter rankings too? So being able to see all the fighters eligible to fight for the Southern Area title at a given weight?
Is this something we can do?
Not easily, we don't have a programmatic breakdown of the areas
:cry:
shuggt
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by shuggt »

I found the numbering of a fighters fights very helpful. When you're looking for the 42nd fight of a fighter's 90 fight career it's very irritating too have to go through all fights. Up to about a year ago fights were numbered and then it stopped. Could numbering fights be started again, please?
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by margaret thatcher »

One thing you can do is to click on the event button at the far right side of the bout, and it will take you to a listing of all the matches on the card,, and will include the fighters' records at the time of those fights. Though of course that's not as instant as just having the bout number already there, but faster than counting all the fights
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by margaret thatcher »

Turn off that feature where you have to resubmit your post if someone else posts before you. I mean what's even the point of it? You can just edit your post after you submit anyway.

It's annoying when there are busy threads (rbrs) where sometimes you have to click like 4-5 times to get your post in, because other people have added posts (usually like 1 sentence posts)
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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BoxRec aught to get with the greater central plan for the whole sport¹. That they would promote the IBO is dispicable. I may not see this stream on return so..saying it now (I hope their will be discussion. Hope to see it!), anyone who supports IBO they are a new baby to the Sport.
The duel tri also needs to be addressed². & the Tyson Fury/Bob Arum/ESPN-Disney LIE also needs address ("came true... YES/Of course! "Context" is the problem there now.............)[ESPN seeds one "new virus"/Entertain two "existing"virus.........]³ *****BoxRec aught to want to be a leader in every Department you'd think! The database far as a scope on the world and it's history is both vast, and amazing work. BUT, BoxRec also "green" far as l.eadership. IBO is a wart only [they could do things. Just.. not world levels Men's league!][Women's Boxing I myself am not qualified to say].

-AND- World Wide Results. Ring magazine used to have a corner on World Wide Results. BoxRec would bring better benefit to the Sport at large if they came with the same format.
That format: 1) results winner action loser. 2) under weight divisions 3) first and last names complete (or, as the Boxer is known). 4) They kept the names narrowed. In other words, not every last 'name' is a 'name' in Boxing (the results for insignificant matches -Ring- reported those too but... "different format.")
^ ^ ^ Two ideas I'll like to submit. Cell: 860-515-7680 in the United States. Got to think it thru. I know very well (and completely) what it is I know. 50 year veteran fan and otherwise.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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Um, can someone translate? :maybe:
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Joe Speck »

^ Translation: u don't know (poop).

How's that?
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by margaret thatcher »

:lol:
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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Joe Speck wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 01:34 ^ Translation: u don't know (poop).

How's that?
:lol: :lol: LMFAO! Ohhhh...so you can be concise. :clap:
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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I'd like to see a "wouldja" section all on it's own. I miss far too many wouldja's.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by The_GOAT »

Apologies if this has been mentioned already but I couldn't see it; is it possible to have a comparison feature (tale of the tape style)? I was trying to compare Lopez and Loma and it doesn't let you do it unless you open up two tabs.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by margaret thatcher »

If you go to a fighter's record, where the upcoming fight is listed, on the right side there should be a ruler thingy you can click that says 'bout', and it will give a side by side of reach, height , age, etc. and the results in their last 6 fights
m1kee50
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by m1kee50 »

@matt___s wrote: 04 Aug 2020, 16:14
John wrote: 02 Aug 2020, 03:46
@matt___s wrote: 24 Jul 2020, 15:50

Is this something we can do?
Not easily, we don't have a programmatic breakdown of the areas
:cry:
John would it be worth asking the Board for the postcodes or however they delineate the Areas?

I'm guessing Scottish/Welsh/NI Areas explain themselves.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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We don't store postcodes in the DB, it's a lot of work.
Humberto subias
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Humberto subias »

Cómo se actualiza mi récord ?
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by MasterG »

Humberto subias wrote: 26 Sep 2020, 10:05 Cómo se actualiza mi récord ?
Ive translated this to English


How is my record updated?

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/133782
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I'm Not A Robot

Post by SportsRatings »

A few months ago a change was made to Boxrec where now I have to prove I'm Not A Robot quite often.

I look up a lot of boxer's records each month, by hand not by script, and even when logged in I get asked to verify 5-10 times.

I understand that automated scripts could hit the DB a lot, but I'm looking up (by bookmarked links) a few hundred boxers over the space of an hour maybe, not dozens every second.

Srsly, having to verify after looking up 10 boxers in a few minutes is a little silly.

I don't know how to get this message to someone who is in charge of that setting, but it would be nice if Boxrec could tone down the Robot Police just a bit. :bow:
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Re: I'm Not A Robot

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SportsRatings wrote: 29 Sep 2020, 21:14 A few months ago a change was made to Boxrec where now I have to prove I'm Not A Robot quite often.

I look up a lot of boxer's records each month, by hand not by script, and even when logged in I get asked to verify 5-10 times.

I understand that automated scripts could hit the DB a lot, but I'm looking up (by bookmarked links) a few hundred boxers over the space of an hour maybe, not dozens every second.

Srsly, having to verify after looking up 10 boxers in a few minutes is a little silly.

I don't know how to get this message to someone who is in charge of that setting, but it would be nice if Boxrec could tone down the Robot Police just a bit. :bow:
lol same f@cking thing that's driven me mad a few times, as im a prolific record browser :lol:
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Re: I'm Not A Robot

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margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Sep 2020, 23:52
SportsRatings wrote: 29 Sep 2020, 21:14 A few months ago a change was made to Boxrec where now I have to prove I'm Not A Robot quite often.
lol same f@cking thing that's driven me mad a few times, as im a prolific record browser :lol:
It sucks when looking at a boxer's record is like poking at a mousetrap...I don't want to spring the "trap" so I wait a few seconds, hoping that's enough time between clicks or maybe the quota will go up and allow me a few more lookups....

But no...one more click and suddenly Select All Squares That Contain Traffic Lights (or Buses, or Crosswalks) comes up, yet again.

If I only had to verify I'm a human ONCE it would be nice. Does it think I transformed into a robot in the meantime?
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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Emaster wrote: 13 Jan 2009, 04:34 The following proposals pertain to the BoxRec database. Suggestions on both BoxRec and the encyclopaedia can be found at the top of this page. Below is a list of wishes written from a user’s standpoint. There might be technical obstacles or other reasons which prevent the proposals from being realized, of course.

Next to the results on title fights lists (e.g. this list), BoxRec's Version 2 offered links to the corresponding fight pages in the encyclopaedia. The book icons did not return after Version 3 had come out. I'd like to have them back.

The schedule page provides various menus. I suggest another one: nationality. It would list the upcoming fights which feature at least one fighter of the selected nationality. Moreover, users should be able to combine choices of different menus, for instance in order to find all scheduled heavyweight fights in the United States. Having the opportunity to select several choices within a menu by checking boxes next to them would be another welcome improvement, which would also benefit the location page, the title search and the division menu of the fighterfinder. For instance, on the schedule page users could create a list showing the upcoming fights from the lightweight division downwards with the WBA or WBC world title at stake held in Japan.

The name search uses one box for the first name and another one for the last name. If users have copied a name from another place and want to search for it in the database, only one box for the whole name would save them further copy and paste actions.

After one year of inactivity boxers are not rated as active fighters any more. There could be a function which allows users themselves to adjust the period of inactivity after which fighters are excluded from the ratings. The same applies to the fighterfinder.

Scheduled bouts are "subject to commission approval / change" according to BoxRec. Maybe rumored bouts could somehow be distinguished from officially announced ones.

A ratings page lists 20 boxers. In the past it showed 25 or even 50. Couldn't the number be raised again? I wouldn't mind seeing 75 or 100 boxers on one page.

The boxers' residences could be replaced by the dates of their next fights and the names of their next opponents. Thus, schedules sorted by BoxRec's ratings would be created.

What’s the purpose of the black question mark which appears when pointing at a flag icon?

It should be marked on title fights lists which version of a title was on the line (interim, full, or super). Furthermore, the number of the defense and the name of the defending champion could be added to each title fight on the BoxRec boxer pages. For instance, instead of "IBF middleweight title" the line could read "IBF middleweight title (Hopkins's 10th defense)". As proposed in this section the information that a fight has not been the only one between the two contestants could already be shown on the BoxRec boxer pages (especially valuable to encyclopaedia editors who move fight pages to new titles).

There should be a definition regarding the additional information to be given on fights in BoxRec. I suggest noting basic information, that is, above all, knockdowns and point deductions. The information should be presented as precisely as possible (rather "Smith down twice in the first and three times in the third round" than "Smith down five times"; rather either "Smith twice deducted one point in round ten" or "Smith deducted two points at once in round ten" than "Smith deducted two points in round ten") and in consistent and graceful style: either "first round"/"round one" (which I propose) or "1st round"/"round 1", either "three times" (which I propose) or "3 times", either "round"/"rounds" (which I propose) or "rd."/"rds.", and either "rounds one and two" (which I propose) or "rounds one & two". To me "Smith down twice in the first round and three times in round two" is aesthetically more pleasing than "Smith down twice in the 1st rd. & 3 times in rd. 2."

The way knockdowns happened should only be added in the encyclopaedia (even the often-seen "body shot" comment, which can be a matter of interpretation.) Adding what caused referees to deduct points may be a borderline case. Why a bout was stopped/ruled a TKO, an NC/ND or a DQ could already be addressed in BoxRec. The same applies to extraordinary situations, e.g. if a title was at stake for one fighter only as the other one had failed to make the weight or if a sanctioning body did not recognize the ruling of the competent commission. Also data on attendances, gates, or agreed-upon catchweights could be mentioned in the database. Everything else should be elaborated on in the encyclopaedia, which would mean that a lot of information would have to be shifted there from BoxRec pages (e.g. from Jack Dempsey's page).

The boxers' records do not only show their opponents' names, but also their opponents' records from before their contests, e.g. 40-20-10. I suggest including stoppage information as well: 40(20)-20(10)-10. NCs should also be included: 40(20)-20(10)-10-5. As opposed to stoppage information, NCs are missing on boxers' profiles: won 40 (KO 20) + lost 20 (KO 10) + drawn 10 = 75. I propose including NCs: won 40 (KO 20) + lost 20 (KO 10) + drawn 10 + NCs 5 = 75. The representation of the records should also change in so far as draws should only appear on an opponent's record or a boxer's profile if the opponent or boxer has fought to at least one draw or No Contest ("15(12)-9(6)" or "won 15 (KO 12) + lost 9 (KO 6)" rather than "15(12)-9(6)-0" or "won 15 (KO 12) + lost 9 (KO 6) + drawn 0", "15(12)-9(6)" or "won 15 (KO 12) + lost 9 (KO 6)" rather than "15(12)-9(6)-0-0" or "won 15 (KO 12) + lost 9 (KO 6) + drawn 0 + NCs 0", but "15(12)-9(6)-0-1" or "won 15 (KO 12) + lost 9 (KO 6) + drawn 0 + NCs 1"). NCs should only show up on an opponent's record or a boxer's profile if that result has at least once occurred. Furthermore, no stoppage information is required in W or L columns which still show 0s ("0-0-1" or "won 0 + lost 0 + drawn 1" rather than "0(0)-0(0)-1" or "won 0 (KO 0) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 1").

The boxers' profiles on the BoxRec boxer pages should also show the combined opponents' records including stoppages and NCs.

BoxRec pages could feature encyclopaedia pages, for instance below the advertisement banner. There could be kind of an encyclopaedia link of the day or week or month to a significant page or category in the encyclopaedia, which would probably introduce it to a broader circle of BoxRec users. New BoxRec features could be presented the same way to make users aware of them.
Pretty interesting stuff
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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Is it possible to have a rating list by a boxer origin (where they were born), in addition to their current nationality?
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Daedalus »

Hi John & team, great job on the site and for monitoring this thread. A few suggestions:
1) On the Forum black banner, change the FAQ to Forum FAQ, because that's all it is. The actual FAQ on the Record Archive features, navigation, etc, are in the Media pages.
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2) Include a link to BoxRec Media on both the Main Database and Forum banners just as the Media banner has links to the other two.
3) Can this thread go on its own forum*? It doesn't fit into the Current Scene, which I think would be about how boxing's doing, what boxers & their posse are up to, upcoming matches/tournaments, etc.
4) Can the *new forum be named "About BoxRec"? In it, there can also be discussions on this site's history, relevance, policies, updates, polls, BoxRec games such PTBF that don't have a home like BoxRec Sim, etc. Because the Announcements portion only lists the 5 most recent posts, threads like these are easily buried by talk on fights/fighters that already have their dedicated areas.
5) I know now how to bookmark a topic and subscribe to a forum. Is it possible to save particular posts within a topic?
Thanks for your time!
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