Better era of Heavyweight Boxing

[oogiebe]

How many times you need to post that bruhster

and that's three times I didn't read it.

[Cojimar 1946]

Part of the problem with trying to look at fights between the best guys is that many of the ratings seem to be based on speculation because the perceived top heavyweights generally refuse to fight each other.

For example going into the fight with Lennox Lewis Mike Tyson was ranked around 3 by Ring Magazine. But the evidence for him being a top 10 heavyweight let alone number 3 doesn't seem very compelling. Going into the fight he had beaten Brian Nielsen and he subsequently beat Clifford Etienne. But that hardly seems like compelling evidence he was a top 10 heavyweight given there are guys outside the top 10 I would pick to beat both. His rating seems to be largely based on being Mike Tyson and his exploits years earlier. But who Tyson was capable of beating in 1987 or 1988 doesn't necessarily translate to what he could do in 2002.

People are free to believe he was one of the best heavyweights in the world against Lewis despite being obviously faded but this seems to be down to guesswork.

[brilo33]

Settle an argument

What was the more exciting era of Heavyweight Boxing.

The 1990's or Now

well gilly gota hand it to you mate you won hands down

[oogiebe]

As of this post. 39 boxing fans voted and 9 casuals.

[brilo33]

As of this post. 39 boxing fans voted and 9 casuals.

harsh i was the one who said 2010 onwards , i take it on the chin

[oogiebe]

As of this post. 39 boxing fans voted and 9 casuals.

harsh i was the one who said 2010 onwards , i take it on the chin

Ok, 8 eight casuals and one misdirected mate.

[brilo33]

i guess in my brain i didnt get to see a lot off the big american fights in early 90s so maybe i was going by british fights

[brilo33]

harsh i was the one who said 2010 onwards , i take it on the chin

Ok, 8 eight casuals and one misdirected mate.

haha very kind

[Cojimar 1946]

Also, it depends how were defining an era.

If we say an era is 10 years than 2012/13-2022/23 might be able to compete talent wise with any prior era. By 2022 guys who are still prospects now like Jalolov, Hrgovic, Dubois, Ajagba, Sirenko should be fully developed. Combine them with the old guard like Wladimir Klitschko, Tyson Fury, etc it should be a hard era to beat H2H.

It remains to be seen if big fights are made. But that doesn't really have a baring on how the era stacks up H2H

[brilo33]

Also, it depends how were defining an era.

If we say an era is 10 years than 2012/13-2022/23 might be able to compete talent wise with any prior era. By 2022 guys who are still prospects now like Jalolov, Hrgovic, Dubois, Ajagba, Sirenko should be fully developed. Combine them with the old guard like Wladimir Klitschko, Tyson Fury, etc it should be a hard era to beat H2H.

It remains to be seen if big fights are made. But that doesn't really have a baring on how the era stacks up H2H

Post by gilgamesh » 12 Jun 2020, 20:55

brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 20:54
90s v 2015s-on wards
It's not even close.

Though I will grant you that Heavyweight Boxing is more exciting now than it was in the 10 or 12 years that preceeded 2016 or so.

[brilo33]

so we were saying the same thing deppens if the fights get maid but with the corna not looking great

[gilgamesh]

Settle an argument

What was the more exciting era of Heavyweight Boxing.

The 1990's or Now

well gilly gota hand it to you mate you won hands down

I was honestly surprised it stayed close for a day or two, but yeah the final poll definitely shakes down the way I figured.

The current era can still go down as one of the better Heavyweight eras if we get all the big fights.

Fury vs Joshua and Joshua vs Wilder have to happen.

[margaret thatcher]

When exactly does the current era stretch from anyway, 2015?

[DrDuke]

When exactly does the current era stretch from anyway, 2015?

Yeah. From the moment the Gypsy King dethroned Klitschko.

[brilo33]

well we have a few big fights coming up fights so keep voting people,

[gilgamesh]

When exactly does the current era stretch from anyway, 2015?

Yeah. From the moment the Gypsy King dethroned Klitschko.

Yep. The Klitschko title reign was so long that "The Klitschko era" is the one in between the 90's era and the current era.

The early 2000's still felt a little bit like the conclusion of the 90's.

[bobcatbox]

When exactly does the current era stretch from anyway, 2015?

Yeah. From the moment the Gypsy King dethroned Klitschko.

Agreed. This is what needs to be written on the Timeline of Boxing. There’s the Klitschko Era, and there’s “now.”

[Cojimar 1946]

Well if we say the current era only starts in 2015 we no longer have Vitali, prime Wlad, prime Chagaev, prime Arreola and other guys who were still active and prime in 2012 to 2014.

On the other hand it gives prospects like Dubois, Hrgovic, Ajagba, Sirenko etc more time to develop and establish their legacies so it might represent a net gain. Also hopefully some more talented guys will turn pro in the coming years.

[DrDuke]

When exactly does the current era stretch from anyway, 2015?

Yeah. From the moment the Gypsy King dethroned Klitschko.

Yep. The Klitschko title reign was so long that "The Klitschko era" is the one in between the 90's era and the current era.

The early 2000's still felt a little bit like the conclusion of the 90's.

Right, the period until Lewis' retirement has always been accepted by me as a conclusion to the 90s.

[J.Rotherhithe]

90s leads the way so far but it's getting close.

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[Boxtune]

This era is worst Heavyweight era ....with too much talking back and forth between 3 heavyweight .

They never take best opponents, just title fight with big money, because they have no choice.

[DrDuke]

This era is worst Heavyweight era ....with too much talking back and forth between 3 heavyweight .

They never take best opponents, just title fight with big money, because they have no choice.

There're at least three of them and already two matches among them are held. While in the previous era there were two top guys, who weren't supposed to fight each other at all (for logical reason though), so the era was looking like a hegemony of some single entity.

[JC]

This era is worst Heavyweight era ....with too much talking back and forth between 3 heavyweight .

They never take best opponents, just title fight with big money, because they have no choice.

I'd definitely take this era over the previous one.

I can't remember hardly any entertaining heavyweight fights happening between Vitali fighting Sanders in 2004 and Wladimir fighting Wach in 2012. There must have been some but not many, Povetkin/Huck was good.

[mcrow42]

90's:
Old Holmes
Tyson (not at his height anymore)
Lennox Lewis (In prime)
Holyfield (past prime)
Bowe (in prime)
Old Foreman
Michael Moorer
Ray Mercer
Tommy Morrison
Ike Ibeabuchi

Even though some of these guys were past prime or straight old I still think 90's hwt was much better than the 2000's & 2010's and probably will be better than the 2020's.

[cormack]

the problem with this poll is the Mike Tyson Fanboys will all vote 90s !