Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras II - October 23, 2020

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Who wins the rematch?

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Estrada - Decision
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Estrada - T/KO
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Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras II - October 23, 2020

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The card is targeted for Mexico City

Earlier this month, Eddie Hearn revealed that champions Juan Fracisco Estrada, Roman Gonzalez, and Julio Cesar Martinez would likely share an October tripleheader. Now, Mike Coppinger’s got a potential date and suite of opponents: Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras, Gonzalez against Israel Gonzalez, and Martinez against Maximino Flores on October 23rd.

Nicaragua’s TN8 also reports the date and lineup. ESPN’s Fernando Barbosa claims that the card will take place in Mexico City.

Estrada (40-3, 27 KO) narrowly defeated Cuadras (39-3-1, 27 KO) in 2017 on the strength of a 10th-round knockdown. The two have been on rather disparate trajectories since; Estrada went on to split a pair of wars with Srisaket Sor Rungvisai to claim the WBC title and defend it with a thumping of Dewayne Beamon, while Cuadras suffered a shock loss to McWilliams Arroyo before entering rehab for substance abuse. He’s 3-0 over marginal competition since.

“Chocolatito” (49-2, 41 KO) will be making the first defense of his WBA “super” title, which he took from Kal Yafai in February with a throwback performance. With Joshua Franco and Andrew Moloney set to rematch for the “regular” and mandatory status, 23-year-old Gonzalez (25-3, 11 KO) gets his third crack at gold. He fell short in previous efforts against Jerwin Ancajas and Kal Yafai, though he recently took a split decision over former title challenger Sho Ishida.

Should Estrada and Gonzalez win, Coppinger reports that they’ve “agreed” to square off in either February or March in a long-awaited rematch.

Martinez (16-1, 12 KO) vs. Flores (25-4-2, 17 KO) could be absolute mayhem. “Max” may not have the prettiest record, but he’s just as much of a Vicious Little Bastard (tm) as “Rey.” The guy once threw over 270 punches in a single round; he’ll probably still get merked, but damn if it won’t be entertaining while it lasts.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras II - October 23, 2020

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Why are there title fights in Mexico if all their fights are no contests right now since they don't have commissions?
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras II - October 23, 2020

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Rgoodwin wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 08:47 Why are there title fights in Mexico if all their fights are no contests right now since they don't have commissions?
They're all Mexicans.
I thought the issue was American's fighting in Mexico ?
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras II - October 23, 2020

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 09:02
Rgoodwin wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 08:47 Why are there title fights in Mexico if all their fights are no contests right now since they don't have commissions?
They're all Mexicans.
I thought the issue was American's fighting in Mexico ?
https://boxrec.com/en/event/810231
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Rgoodwin wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 10:37
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 09:02
Rgoodwin wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 08:47 Why are there title fights in Mexico if all their fights are no contests right now since they don't have commissions?
They're all Mexicans.
I thought the issue was American's fighting in Mexico ?
https://boxrec.com/en/event/810231
That was a June card.. Might change by October.. Who knows.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras II - October 23, 2020

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 10:41
Rgoodwin wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 10:37
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 09:02

They're all Mexicans.
I thought the issue was American's fighting in Mexico ?
https://boxrec.com/en/event/810231
That was a June card.. Might change by October.. Who knows.
Yes. It could.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras II - October 23, 2020

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Would be very odd to put on unsanctioned title fights
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras II - October 23, 2020

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Anyone know if the commission there has actually started sanctioning bouts?
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras II - October 23, 2020

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Press Release

Matchroom return to Mexico on Friday October 23 at TV Azteca Studios in Mexico City with a World title triple-header led by champions Juan Francisco Estrada, Román ‘Chocolatito’ González and Julio Cesar Martinez, live on DAZN in the US and on TV Azteca in Mexico, on a huge fight night brought to you by Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom Boxing with Zanfer Promotions.

Juan Francisco Estrada (40-3 27 KOs) will defend his WBC and Ring Magazine World Super-Flyweight titles in a rematch with Carlos Cuadras. Estrada makes the second defense of the belts having stopped Dewayne Beamon in nine rounds of action in Hermosillo in Mexico in August 2019, four months after ripping the belts from Srisaket Sor Rungvisai with a brilliant performance in their rematch in Los Angeles.

Victory in Mexico City for both Estrada and Chocolatito could lead to a rematch between the pair eight years after Chocolatito won their first meeting, but Cuadras has other ideas.

Estrada and Cuadras tangled for the first time in September 2017 in an ultra-competitive showdown, where an 11th round knockdown by Estrada proved decisive in all three judges awarding him the fight by a solitary point. Cuadras (39-3-1 27 KOs) enters the bout with three wins on the spin and the 32 year old will be putting it all on the line to become a two-time WBC champion at Super-Flyweight.

“I am excited to return to the ring,” said Estrada. “it has been tough months for the whole world and we want to give a great show to all the fans of this sport.

“The first fight against Cuadras was a good fight, without a doubt this will be too. Also, we are going to share the show Chocolatito and I and if everything goes well, we hope to see each other again soon.”


“I am going to correct the mistakes that were made in the first fight against Gallo to go out with my hand up in this new opportunity that is being presented to me,” said Cuadras. “I want to show that I am one of the best in this division.”

Chocolatito (49-2 41 KOs) is back at the summit of the sport after rolling back the years with a vintage win over Kal Yafai in February. The Nicaraguan ace stopped the unbeaten Briton in the ninth round in Dallas to become a World Super-Flyweight champion for the second time, and the four weight World ruler will defend the WBA belt he ripped from Yafai and aim to set up another clash with Estrada against a former Yafai victim, Israel Gonzalez.

Gonzalez (25-3 11 KOs) ran Yafai close for the WBA crown in Monte Carlo in November 2018 and his clash with Chocolatito will be his third World title shot having challenged Jerwin Ancajas for the IBF strap in February 2018.

“I want to thank God for giving me the strength to endure the sport I love and defend my World title,” said Chocolatito. “I want to thank Eddie Hearn and Matchroom Boxing as well as my family of Teiken. I also want to thank all my fans, specially my Mexican friends and Zanfer promotions for giving me this great opportunity, it is truly a blessing to fight in Mexico and I am ready to give my all on October 23.”

“It’s a goal of mine beating Chocolatito especially when the fight is in Mexico,” said Gonzalez. “I feel the compromise of giving a great fight for the fans and for every mexican fighter that have fought for a World title.”

The third World title fight on the bill sees a welcome return to the ring for one of boxing’s most exciting rising stars as Julio Cesar Martinez puts his WBC World Flyweight strap on the line against IBO champion Maximino Flores.

Martinez (16-1 12 KOs) is becoming a must-see attraction in the sport with his all-action style and ferocious power, and the 25 year old Mexican puts his belt on the line for the second time since beating Cristofer Rosales inside nine rounds in December, and seeing off the spirited challenge of Jay Harris in Dallas in February.

Flores (25-4-2 17 KOs) landed the vacant IBO crown in August with victory on hostile territory over Carlo Penalosa in the Philippines, and the 29 year old can add another title straight away with victory in this all-Mexican bout.

“I’ve been preparing very well here with my trainer Mauricio Aceves,” said Martinez. “We’re having a very strong camp. Thank God that I’ve still been able to work out throughout the pandemic. Either my trainer comes to my house or I go to his. Either way I haven’t lost my conditioning.

“Thank God I haven’t been directly affected by the Pandemic. I’ve been able to remain active with running and practical skills with the help of Mauricio. We’re just here putting the final touches on my training but I’m very confident that my trainer has me in the best shape for this upcoming fight”

“The whole world will know my name when I beat Martinez,”
said Flores. “It is a unique opportunity in my career, and I have to take advantage of it, all my life I have prepared for this moment”.

Three of Eddie Hearn’s young tyros make their return to action on the bill, with Diego Pacheco (9-0 7 KOs) boxing for the tenth time in the paid ranks, Austin Williams (5-0 4 KOs) making a second foray outside the States in his sixth pro fight and Otha Jones III (5-0 2 KOs) also boxing for the sixth time as a pro.

“I can’t wait for our return to Mexico with this triple-header of World title action,” said promoter Eddie Hearn. “Three of the very best World champions are in action and in real tests for their crowns.

“A rematch between Juan Francisco Estrada and Chocolatito is a done deal for the first quarter of 2021 but they both have hard fights ahead. Estrada’s first fight with Carlos Cuadras’ was nip and tuck war, and Carlos is full of confidence that he’ll get a big victory this time.

“Chocolatito was outstanding in beating Brit Kal Yafai in Dallas, and the former pound-for-pound king has a new lease of life as he chases more belts – but must be at his best against his Mexican namesake aiming for third time lucky in his hunt for a World title.

“Julio Cesar Martinez is one of the most thrilling World champions out there right now and I can’t wait to see him back in action. The firecracker Mexican guarantees excitement, and with Maximino Flores having a high KO percentage himself and coming in after landing the IBO belt, this will catch fire straight away.

“Three incredibly talented youngsters are back in the ring on the night in Diego, Ammo and OJIII – it’s a stacked night of action and one not to be missed!”


“We are going to give the fans a high-quality card as they always deserve it,” said Fernando Beltran from Zanfer Promotions. “Very interesting fights with great sports idols who always leave everything in the ring.”
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:box: Fight Week! :box:
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Cuadras Produces Follow-Up Negative COVID-Test; Rematch With Estrada Remains Intact

Carlos Cuadras has been cleared for combat.

A scare was averted as the former junior bantamweight titlist came up negative in separate COVID-19 tests to move forward with his challenge of reigning lineal junior bantamweight champion Juan Francisco Estrada. The recent developments offset a previous positive test produced by Cuadras, which initially put their October 23 rematch in jeopardy.

Event officials have since confirmed that the bout remains intact, headlining a title fight tripleheader live on DAZN from Gimnasio TV Azteca in Cuadras’ hometown of Mexico City.

As previously reported by Boxing Scene (and first reported by ESPN Deportes’ Salvador ‘Chava’ Rodriguez), Cuadras (39-3-1, 27KOs) was one of two boxers in relation to this show who tested positive for COVID-19. The other was Maximino Flores (25-4-2, 17KOs), who was pulled from his challenge of reigning flyweight titlist Julio Cesar Martinez (16-1, 12KOs), who now faces countryman Moises Calleros (33-9-1, 17KOs).

Cuadras was given a second chance to remain on the show in his hometown, since the rest of his team all tested negative tests for the infectious disease. Subsequent testing conducted over the weekend provided the former junior bantamweight titlist with a clean bill of health in being able to remain on the card.

Hermosillo’s Estrada (40-3, 27KOs) attempts the second defense of the lineal 115-pound crown he annexed in a 12-round decision win over Srisaket Sor Rungvisai in their thrilling rematch last April. Estrada dropped a competitive decision to Sor Rungvisai in their first fight in February 2018, a title opportunity set up by a 10-round win over Cuadras in September 2017.

Cuadras began his own 115-pound title reign with a win over Sor Rungvisai in May 2014, making six successful defenses before dropping a 12-round decision to the legendary Roman ‘Chocolatito’ Gonzalez (49-2, 41KOs) in September 2016. The setback marked his first career defeat, though suffering three losses in a four-fight span to Gonzalez, Estrada and Puerto Rico’s McWilliams Arroyo. Three straight wins have since followed heading into Friday’s main event.

Gonzalez also appears on this weekend’s show, as the four-division champ from Managua, Nicaragua attempt the first defense of his second junior bantamweight title reign. It comes versus Los Cabos’ Israel Gonzalez (25-3, 11KOs; no relation) in the evening’s chief support.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras II - October 23, 2020

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Juan Francisco Estrada-Carlos Cuadras II: Stats & Stakes

Juan Francisco Estrada
Age: 30
Titles: Lineal/TBRB/Ring/WBC Jr. Bantamweight (2019-Present, 1 Defense)
Previous Titles: WBA/WBO Flyweight (2013-Present, 5 Defenses)
Height: 5’4
Weight: 114 ½ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico
Record: 40-3, 27 KO
Record in Major Title Fights: 8-2, 5 KO
Last Five Opponents: 171-16-6 (.897)
Current/Former World Champions Faced: Juan Carlos Sanchez L8, TKO10; Roman Gonzalez L12; Brian Viloria MD12; Giovani Segura TKO11; Hernan Marquez KO10; Carlos Cuadras UD12; Srisaket Sor Rungvisai L12, UD12

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Carlos Cuadras
Age: 32
Titles: None
Previous Titles: WBC Super Flyweight (2014-16, 6 Defenses)
Height: 5’4
Weight: 114 ½ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Mexico City, Mexico
Record: 39-3-1, 27 KO
Press Rankings: #6 (ESPN), #10 (Ring)
Record in Major Title Fights: 6-1-1, 3 KO
Last Five Opponents: 112-22 (.836)
Current/Former World Champions Faced: Srisaket Sor Rungvisai Tech. Dec. 8; Luis Concepcion UD12; Roman Gonzalez L12; Juan Francisco Estrada L12

The Case for Estrada: Estrada might be one of the best fifteen round fighters in the twelve round era. What is meant by that is he’s been an elite prizefighter for most of a decade and one who might have been even better in an earlier era. Estrada is often a slow starter who uses his jab and vision to slowly digest the incoming and then adjust to take away the strength of his opponents. He’s fundamentally as sound as any fighter in the sport. There are times where Estrada settles into dominance early; others where it takes awhile to start to turn up his offense. His first title win, against Brian Viloria, showed off his ability to process an opponent and take over down the stretch. Against Cuadras the first time, the slow start almost cost him. Cuadras built an early lead with an edge in quickness and activity. Without the knockdown, the fight was dead even...but Estrada got the knockdown. His second half against Cuadras was the difference and was almost the difference in the first fight with Sor Rungvisai. So far, Estrada is perfect in rematches. With the stakes high here, Estrada is best served to start at least a little earlier and make Cuadras remember the late rounds from their first encounter. A desperate Cuadras will be a more dangerous one if he is allowed to build confidence in the early going.

The Case for Cuadras: Ironically, it may be smart for Cuadras to try to start a little slower in this one. In recent fare, Cuadras has looked markedly slower and been easier to hit. Is that a sign of too much decline to compete here, or a need for greater motivation? Roman Gonzalez’s performance against Khalid Yafai was a reminder, after two outings where Gonzalez looked slower and more vulnerable than he ever had, of what having something to fight for can mean. Cuadras has something to fight for here. It’s his first chance to regain the belt he lost four years ago and a chance to beat the perceived best fighter in his class. It’s a fight where both fighters are shaking off a year and change of inactivity. The rest may ultimately have been more helpful for Cuadras. If he can fight himself into form over a couple rounds on Friday, his combination punching, angles, and activity could make this another white knuckle affair heading into the championship rounds.

The Pick: Estrada’s perfect record in rematches might not stay intact forever but it’s likely to go to 3-0 here. Estrada is the more cerebral and rounded fighter of the two, and makes better adjustments. Cuadras isn’t going to be easy and this should be an entertaining fight. Cuadras’ chin and guts will make for some exchanges and this might even feel pretty competitive in the first half. It won’t stay that way. Estrada’s jab and sharp combinations will have him in control and it wouldn’t be a shock if this one ends inside the distance sometime after the eighth.

Cliff’s Notes…

Roman Gonzalez has to handle his end of things and it won’t be easy for him either. Israel Gonzalez gave Yafai fits and is only 23. Longer and naturally larger than Chocolatito, this is a chance for him to change the whole course of his fistic life. Was Yafai a one-off for an aging fighter or the start of a second wind for the future Hall of Famer? There is at least the potential for an upset in both of the big name battles on this DAZN card. There is still much road to travel to get to the overdue Gonzalez-Estrada sequel...The pick here for Vasyl Lomachenko over Teofimo Lopez was wrong but it’s surprising to see how many seem to want to wish away what happened. No, there was not a case for a draw in that fight. Lopez won. Period. All three judges had it a shoutout through seven, and those scores were spot on. The idea that one could give a round or two to Lomachenko in that batch doesn’t mean anyone should have. A couple of the rounds scored here for Lomachenko, rounds eight through eleven, were closer than anything in the first seven, meaning a Lopez decision awarding him nine or even ten rounds wasn’t unreasonable. Julie Lederman’s card, giving eleven frames to Lopez, was too wide and merits criticism but it might not have been as bad as it sounds on closer inspection...Would upsets of Estrada and Gonzalez possibly set up Cuadras-Sor Rungvisai II? That’s a rematch that would feel like a brand new fight for the multitude who likely never saw their first encounter.

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Roman Gonzalez Dec Israel Gonzalez
Julio Cesar Martinez TKO Moisés Calleros
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Estrada-Cuadras II DAZN Weigh-In Report From Mexico City

The two-division and reigning lineal junior bantamweight champion attempts the second defense of his crown as he faces former 115-pound titlist Carlos Cuadras. Their bout—a rematch to their September 2017 non-title fight—headlines a three-title fight show, streaming Friday evening live on DAZN from Gimnasio TV Azteca in Mexico City, Mexico.

Both boxers came in at an announced 114.5 pounds (52 kg.), well under the 115-pound divisional limit.

Gonzalez—a four-division champion—enters the first title defense of his second reign as a junior bantamweight title claimant, having reclaimed a belt in a one-sided stoppage of England’s Khalid Yafai this past February. He will defend his belt versus Los Cabos’ Israel Gonzalez (25-3, 11KOs; no relation).

Both boxers weighed an announced 114 pounds (51.7 kg.) for their 12-round contest.

Julio Cesar Martinez (16-1, 12KOs) appears in the first of the three title fights on the night, though his opponent’s eligibility to challenge for his flyweight belt is currently in doubt.

Moises Calleros (33-9-1, 17KOs) answered the call as a replacement for Maximino Flores, who tested positive for COVID. However, the veteran journeyman came in as a bantamweight for a flyweight fight, tipping the scale at a beefy 117.4 pounds (53.3 kg). He will have two hours to shed the weight, although the likelihood is the bout moving forward with Martinez—who weighed 111 pounds—retaining his title status and Calleros paying a fine in order to participate in a non-title fight.
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Estrada Gets Off The Floor, Drops Cuadras Twice and Stops Him in Eleventh

Juan Francisco Estrada wouldn’t allow the judges to determine the outcome of his riveting rematch with Carlos Cuadras on Friday night.

Estrada survived a third-round knockdown and staggered Cuadras several times later in their terrific slugfest before flooring him twice in the 11th round. Cuadras courageously attempted to avoid losing by knockout for the first time in his career, but Estrada hurt him again and their fight was stopped at 2:20 of the 11th round at TV Azteca’s Studios in Mexico City.

Estrada defeated Cuadras by one point on all three scorecards in their first fight, a 12-rounder three years ago in Carson, California. He left no doubt about the outcome in what was an entertaining slugfest between these Mexican rivals Friday night.

Estrada (41-3, 28 KOs) retained the WBC super flyweight title he won by out-pointing Thailand’s Srisaket Sor Rungvisai in their rematch in April 2019.

The 30-year-old champion also secured his place in a probable rematch with former pound-for-pound king Roman “Chocolatito” Gonzalez in his next fight. Nicaragua’s Gonzalez (50-2, 41 KOs), who soundly out-boxed Israel Gonzalez in the co-feature Friday night, defeated Estrada by unanimous decision in their 12-round, 108-pound title fight nearly eight years ago in Los Angeles.

The 32-year-old Cuadras (39-4-1, 27 KOs) had lost only a pair of 12-round unanimous decisions and a 10-round majority decision before Estrada stopped him.

Sensing he was engaged in another extremely close contest, Estrada went after Cuadras at the start of the 11th round and knocked him to the canvas twice.

Estrada’s left hook knocked Cuadras backward and to the canvas 13 seconds into that 11th round. He got up quickly from that first knockdown, but Estrada didn’t allow him to regain his senses.

A right hand by Estrada sent Cuadras to the canvas again, this time face first, with 2:08 to go in the 11th round.

That left Estrada entirely too much time to finish his fatigued, disoriented opponent. Cuadras tried to swing his way out of that trouble, but once Estrada nailed him with a right hand that moved him backward, with his hands down, the referee stopped the action.

Cuadras out-landed Estrada during a 10th round that featured constant action. Estrada, who suffered a cut above his left eye in that round, clipped Cuadras with a left-right combination that caused Cuadras to hold him late in the 10th round.

Estrada nailed Cuadras with a left hook to his body that caused Cuadras to retreat about 45 seconds into the ninth round. Cuadras came back with a barrage of power punches, though, as he had done numerous other times in their back-and-forth fight.

Estrada staggered Cuadras with a right hand a few seconds after the midway mark of the eighth round. Estrada tried to capitalize on that momentum, but Cuardas unloaded numerous power punches and kept Estrada from hurting him again.

Estrada landed multiple left hooks in the opening minute of the seventh round. Cuadras connected with a right uppercut with just over a minute remaining in the seventh.

Estrada nailed Cuadras with a left hook that made him retreat with a little less than 30 seconds to go in the seventh round.

A right to the head by Estrada opened up a left hook to the body that hurt Cuadras and made him move away from Estrada 30 seconds into the sixth round. Cuadras drilled Estrada with a right to the side of his head later in the sixth, but he couldn’t prevent Estrada from unloading on him.

Estrada rocked Cuadras with a right hand early in the fifth round, in which he continued to mount his comeback.

Motivated after getting knocked down during the third round, Estrada went on the offensive during the fourth round. He landed a left to the body and followed up with a left hook up top.

Cuadras clipped Estrada with a right uppercut and followed up with a left hook that sent a stunned Estrada to the canvas in the third round. Estrada answered the count quickly and finished the round on steady legs.

Cuadras caught Estrada with a couple of jabs that slipped through Estrada’s guard during the first round. Cuadras landed a straight right hand just before the bell sounded to end the first round as well.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Carlos Cuadras II - October 23, 2020

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Rewatched this morning, and this was a great fight. Really great action from both guys. Estrada was fairly in control after Round 4, but Cuadras showed tremendous heart. He hit Estrada with some nice flurries to make it a fight, but he didn’t have enough left. Really good left hooks from Estrada. I thought he timed the right hand very well.
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