Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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Who wins?

Poll ended at 15 Nov 2020, 09:46

Crawford - Decision
10
14%
Crawford - T/KO
52
70%
DRAW
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1%
Brook - T/KO
7
9%
Brook - Decision
4
5%
 
Total votes: 74

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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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jameswilson wrote: 18 Oct 2020, 06:55 Very much an ‘if only my auntie had bollocks’ statement but the stabbing and god awful mandatories following into Errol Spence being mandatory didn’t help out at all.

Had he been luckier he’d have had guys like Let’s say a Devon Alexander as a mandatory at some point someone with some kind of name value or history to him. As it is he got Ionut Dan and Kevin Bizier. I think I also remember Hearn always mentioned Josesito Lopez as an option around that time, no world beater but at least a recognisable name that could have upped his stock over the pond just that little half a fraction more to make a unification a bit more realistic.
He was supposed to fight Diego Chavez wasn’t he? Was supposed to be on the same nighty at Wlad-Fury. That would have been decent. Then he was close to fighting Vargas.. but Brexit happened and the pound dropped, we know the rest.. that’s when he stepped in to fight GGG.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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“You gonna make weight?” Crawford asked Brook.

“You’re running out of opponents,” Brook responded. “I’m here.”

Brook said, “I would just like to say a big thank you to Bob Arum and his team at Top Rank and to Baz Kandiara and my management team for getting the fight made. Thank you also to Terence Crawford and his team. It’s a fantastic fight, a proper fight for the fans to get excited about. I’m sure it’s one that will have viewers on the edge of their seats, whichever side of the pond they’re from.

“I’ve been told there are people writing off my chances, questioning my age, and my ability to make the weight. Well, let them talk. Some people focus on reading headlines, I focus on making headlines. Those people writing me off as a big underdog? No problem. I guess this big dog will be making a few people richer during a difficult time.

“Terence isn’t too much younger than me. They know that I’ve never ducked a challenge, and they should know that I’ve never failed to make 147 on the scales. With age comes experience. My knowledge and experience make me a different fighter, a more mature fighter. Couple that with a happy fighter, and you’ve got yourself a dangerous fighter.”
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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Kell is with Adam Etches.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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Etches trained Kash Ali for his David Price fight.
Has he the experience to train someone to fight Terence Crawford or does he come cheap?
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BigDoofus wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 05:31 Etches trained Kash Ali for his David Price fight.
Has he the experience to train someone to fight Terence Crawford or does he come cheap?
Probably the latter. Kell is getting 1.6m for this, his retirement fund.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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BigDoofus wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 05:31 Etches trained Kash Ali for his David Price fight.
Has he the experience to train someone to fight Terence Crawford or does he come cheap?
The fact he's not working with Ingle and is promoting himself suggests Kell wants to save every penny he can :lol:
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mickey1975 wrote: 20 Oct 2020, 16:28 Kell is with Adam Etches.
I’m hearing Adam’s in the camp but he’s not training Brook.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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ash.123 wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 06:41
BigDoofus wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 05:31 Etches trained Kash Ali for his David Price fight.
Has he the experience to train someone to fight Terence Crawford or does he come cheap?
The fact he's not working with Ingle and is promoting himself suggests Kell wants to save every penny he can :lol:
Yeh, probably re-negotiated the 10% trainer fee as well to whoever is actually training him.

He might pull a 'Beibut Shumenov' and train himself..
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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maverick23 wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 07:02
mickey1975 wrote: 20 Oct 2020, 16:28 Kell is with Adam Etches.
I’m hearing Adam’s in the camp but he’s not training Brook.
He is.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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mickey1975 wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 07:18
maverick23 wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 07:02
mickey1975 wrote: 20 Oct 2020, 16:28 Kell is with Adam Etches.
I’m hearing Adam’s in the camp but he’s not training Brook.
He is.
We’ll find out come fight week.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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Carl Froch: Kell Brook is cashing out against Terence Crawford on Nov.14

Carl Froch feels that Kell Brook is cashing out against Terence Crawford in their fight on November 14th, and he has nothing left after being broken by Gennady Golovkin in 2016.

Former super middleweight champion Froch thinks it was a mistake for Brook (39-2, 27 KOs) to move up from 147 to 160 to challenge world champion Golovkin for his titles in September 2016. Froch says Brook should have never taken the fight with Golovkin, even though it was a great payday for him.

Brook gave it a good go despite suffering a freak eye injury in the second round. In the fifth, Brook was stopped by GGG. Kell’s eye injury was a situation where he got hit by a punch that hit the wrong spot.

It’s not that Golovkin hit him with a huge shot to do the damage. It was an average punch, and nowhere near the kind that the Kakzahstan fighter is capable of throwing. It was just a situation where Brook got hit with the tip of Golovkin’s glove in a spot on his eye that caused the fracture of his orbital bone.

Froch: Brook was broken by Golovkin

“I think it’s probably too late for Kell Brook, unfortunately,” said Carl Froch to Sporting Radio. “I think the loss to Gennady Golovkin and Errol Spence left some damage that he’ll never recover and he’s never recovered from, especially the GGG fight.

GGG was too big and too strong for him. And that’s maybe a fight that you look back in hindsight that maybe he shouldn’t have taken. Him and his training team and the promotional team thought it was the right fight at the right time.

“He was trying to get the Amir Khan fight and then all of a sudden he announced that he was fighting GGG,” Froch said about Brook’s 2016 contest against Golovkin. “I thought it was a stupid decision, to be honest.

“I don’t think that was the right decision by Kell Brook, and it pretty much destroyed his career moving forward because of the injury and because he’s a magnificent talent. I’ve sparred him.

“His speed and his skill set and natural ability is phenomenal. He’s such a great fighter. But you can break something inside a boxer, something you can never get back, and I think Golovkin did that to Brook. It’s such a shame,”
said Froch.

Many boxing fans would disagree with Froch that the eye injury that Brook suffered against GGG is what ruined his career. What really hurt former IBF welterweight champion Brook’s career was the inactivity after he chose to move up to 154 in 2018.

After Brook blasting out Sergey Rabchenko in a tune-up fight in 2018 at 154, he never stepped it up after that fight. Brook take another soft fight against Michael Zerafa, and stayed out of the ring for over a year before fighting Mark DeLuca in 2019.

Brook lost motivation for his career after moving up to 154, and he doesn’t seem like his heart was ever in it to fight in that weight class.

Carl gives Brook a chance of beating Terence

“Terence Crawford is a great fight, but Terence Crawford is not messing around. He’s a top fighter,” Froch continued. “I think it’s going to be his last fight, Kell Brook. And I think it’s him cashing out,” said Froch.

“I don’t think crowds or lack of crowds will play a big factor for either fighter,” said Froch of the Crawford vs. Brook bout.

“I think Kell will do what he does best. I’m not totally writing him off, but against someone like Terence Crawford, who is very good and exceptional, Kell Brook was exceptional in his day.

“He’s past his best, and I think this is going to be a test too far. It’s a great fight. I want to watch it, and I love Kell Brook. I want him to pull it off, but I just can’t see it,”
said Froch.

Brook has an excellent chance of beating Crawford because he’s finally motivated properly for the first time since his matches against Golovkin and Errol Spence.


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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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If Brook starts blinking it's all over.

If Brook has the early success and keeps it 50-50 it will be a big test for Crawford.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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Bob Arum confident Crawford vs. Brook will be shown in UK on Nov.14

Bob Arum says the UK fans will be able to watch the Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook fight live on November 14th, possibly on FITE TV at less than half-price of what they would normally pay for pay-per-view.

Arum is still trying to work a deal with BT Sport and Sky to have one of those two networks to show the Crawford-Brook fight.

But if neither of them chooses to show the fight in the UK, then Arum is convinced FITE TV will show it. They’re the company that showed last Saturday’s fight between Teofimo Lopez and Vasily Lomachenko to UK boxing fans.

Brook will give Crawford a tough fight

“It’s a good fight. Kell Brook is an elite fighter, and he’s shown that. He’s beaten Shawn Porter,” said Arum to IFL TV on Terence Crawford’s next fight. “

He’s going to give Terence a run for his money. I think it’s a really good fight. I’ve been talking to Kell Brook’s people for months now, and they believe they can win the title.

“Talking to ESPN, it’s going to get the same treatment in the United States as the Loma-Lopez fight just got. So we think it’s going to be a huge fight of millions of sports fan watching the [Crawford vs. Brook] fight on November 14th,” Arum said.

Brook (39-2, 27 KOs) is sparring with the capable Conor Benn in preparing for the fight with the unbeaten WBO welterweight champion Crawford (36-0, 27 KOs). Benn should give the 34-year-old Brook some good work to him get ready for Crawford.

Arum is not surprised Sky hasn’t picked up Crawford-Brook

“I believe Brook is scheduled to come over here at the end of this week. No, because it’s a monopoly,” Arum said when asked if he’s surprised that Sky Sports aren’t showing the Crawford vs. Brook fight in the UK.

“Eddie [Hearn] has a budget, and he’s not going to use his budget on his non-fights. Sky is in it not to support boxing, but to see what money it can grab out of boxing out of pay-per-view. They’re not looking to invest in the sport the way ESPN is.

“If that’s where we have to go with the Brook fight, then that’s what we’ll do,”
said Arum about Top Rank potentially showing Crawford vs. Brook on FITE TV in the UK.

“You will see it [in the UK] because if we can’t make a deal with BT or Sky, then we’re happy to do it with FITE TV, and it’s at half price at what they usually pay for pay-per-view.

It’s less than half price,”
said Arum on the Crawford-Brook fight being shown in the UK.

As you can tell, Arum doesn’t sound too pleased with Sky Sports. But hopefully, the Crawford vs. Brook fight will be shown in the UK by one of these platforms on November 14.

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mickey1975 wrote: 20 Oct 2020, 16:28 Kell is with Adam Etches.
He’s not. He’s training with a guy called Carlos something or other.
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ash.123 wrote: 23 Oct 2020, 11:56
mickey1975 wrote: 20 Oct 2020, 16:28 Kell is with Adam Etches.
He’s not. He’s training with a guy called Carlos something or other.
Yep - Carlos Fermento.

Etches was around the camp for a few days but wasn’t involved with the training side.
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maverick23 wrote: 23 Oct 2020, 11:58
ash.123 wrote: 23 Oct 2020, 11:56
mickey1975 wrote: 20 Oct 2020, 16:28 Kell is with Adam Etches.
He’s not. He’s training with a guy called Carlos something or other.
Yep - Carlos Fermento.

Etches was around the camp for a few days but wasn’t involved with the training side.
That’s the one. Just watched his IFL interview. Gets pretty wound up about Sky not showing the fight and says Hearn is more interested in non-title PPV’s and book signings.
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He’s done all his camp with Etches. Just like Campbell has at Vulcan Ams before going to Shane’s.
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mickey1975 wrote: 23 Oct 2020, 12:32 He’s done all his camp with Etches. Just like Campbell has at Vulcan Ams before going to Shane’s.
He hasn’t done all his camp with Etches. I’ve just watched the Kell interview - no mention of Etches - just talks about Carlos Fermento. Was Etches with him in Fuerteventura?

As I’ve said - Etches has been around camp but he’s not training Kell and hasn’t done so this camp.

I get Campbell does some of his training at the amateur gym before moving to Shane’s but Kell doesn’t have anywhere to go on to.
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Doesn’t matter who he will train with.. he’s gonna lose.
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Kell Brook comments on Sky and Hearn not showing Crawford fight

Kell Brook is upset that Sky Sports and his old promoter Eddie Hearn chose not to pick up his November 14th fight against WBO welterweight champion Terence Crawford.

Brook (39-2, 27 KOs) points out that Hearn and Sky Sports show non-title fights involving Dereck Chisora vs. Oleksandr Usyk and Dillian Whyte vs. Alexander Povetkin on pay-per-view. Yet, they won’t be showing him facing WBO 147-lb champion Crawford (36-0, 27 KOs) on November 14th.

Kell, 34, says he bailed Hearn out in 2016 when he stepped up and took the fight against middleweight champion Gennadiy Golovkin. Brook says always been with Sky, and he was hoping that they would show his fight with Crawford.

They won’t be, unfortunately, and it’s expected to be shown instead on FITE TV in the UK.

Brook not worried about being the underdog

“Why not? I’m an elite fighter. Look at [Teofimo] Lopez. Everyone wrote him off, and he upset the odds and beat the pound-for-pound #1 in Loma,” Kell Brook said to IFL TV when asked why he thinks he’ll beat Crawford.

“I’m going to do the same. During the lockdown, all I’ve wanted to do is train. My weight hasn’t been blowing up as it used to in my early years. This is probably the easiest I’ve made welterweight.

“I’m not worried about making 147. A big factor in the early years was the IBF. Their 10-pound rehydration clause. But with the WBO, I weigh-in at 147, and there’s no check-weight in the morning. The weight can be whatever it wants to be in the morning. So that’s off my mind.

“I’m self-motivated, and that’s the main thing. I see people writing me off, and that’s bringing the very best out of me. I’ve been training for four months hard, and I’ve done everything that was asked of me,”
said Brook.

Kell is the underdog against Crawford, but he’s motivated to show his doubters that they were wrong to pick against him.

Brook is ready to rip Crawford’s WBO 147-lb title away from him to become a two-time welterweight champion on November 14th.

Kell talks Hearn and Sky

“All he [Eddie Hearn] had to do was get on the phone and call Uncle Bob [Arum], but he was more interested in earning 2-bob,” said Brook when asked his thoughts about Sky Sports not picking up his fight with Crawford to show in the UK.

“He was more interested in signing books. That’s what’s happening with Eddie Hearn. I got him out of jail with the Golovkin fight with the pay-per-view slot. I saved the day again.

I’ve always been a Sky Sports fighter. And I’ve been in with Porter and Spence, Golovkin. I’ve had some amazing nights with Sky Sports. I want to give back to the fans that subscribe to Sky Sports, my fans to see me fight against the pound-for-pound king Crawford.

“To take that title from him. Eddie is having these pay-per-view fights with not even a title on the line. Chisora-Usyk, Whyte-Povetkin, those are great fights. But Brook-Crawford, come on, man.

“We’re more than entitled to have that fight there for the fans. The fact is, it’s going to be on TV. I would have loved for it to be on Sky, but there you do,”
said Brook.

It will be exciting to see what the reaction will be from Hearn and Sky Sports if Brook can defeat Crawford. Will Brook be given the red carpet treatment by Sky Sports and Hearn, or will his future fights be passed over by them?

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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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Kell shouldn't be too upset.

Khan vs. Crawford wasn't picked up by Hearn/Sky either..
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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And Khan's speed will always pose some problems, Brook at his very best is still a vastly inferior boxer to Crawford.

On the Costello & Bunce pod, Buncey is refusing to write off Brook and said could you look him in the eye and say Brook will definitely lose....YES !

Errol Spence showed Brook will always come up short against consistent world class boxers and they don't come any more world class or consistent than Crawford.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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THEBUTCH wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 05:16 And Khan's speed will always pose some problems, Brook at his very best is still a vastly inferior boxer to Crawford.
Yeh, the Crawford didn't really perform that great against Khan. The styles didn't really go well.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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Premier sports have picked this up for broadcast in the Uk
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The Young One wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 06:25 Premier sports have picked this up for broadcast in the Uk
I’ve never watched anything on Premier Sports. What’s the deal? Is it a paid subscription channel? Will the fight be on PPV?
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