fizzjambo wrote: ↑26 Oct 2020, 18:33
Chisora is a long way off the top end of the division. I don’t see Usyk beating the very top end of the heavyweight division but his feet, hand speed and judgement should be way too much for Chisora. Usyk by wide and potentially dull decision
While I agree with your prediction - I guess though it depends on the definition of "long way off" and "top end" of the division.... if the top end is 2 fighters, then yes - but I think he has shown he's not a long way off Dillion White.
I mean far off in terms of likelihood of matching the top 2/3 of the division rather than where I’d rank him.
There is a decent case for Del being top ten in the world at the weight, and it would be unfair to have him outside of the top twenty in my view. That said though heavyweight is a notoriously shallow weight class and I wouldn’t give him a prayer against Joshua. Fury has already shown how superior he is to Chisora.
Usyk will be small for the weight and is possibly at the very early stage of his own decline. He shouldn’t have any bother with Chisora though, who isn’t technically great and is well past his best himself. He’s also shown a tendency to down tools a bit and go through the motions when being outboxed and I expect to see this again here.
Remarkable that both this fight, and the card supporting it, are deemed PPV worthy but then I think the same of guys buying a pair of trainers for £300 or a pint for a tenner. Plenty folk out there with more money than sense
fizzjambo wrote: ↑26 Oct 2020, 18:33
Chisora is a long way off the top end of the division. I don’t see Usyk beating the very top end of the heavyweight division but his feet, hand speed and judgement should be way too much for Chisora. Usyk by wide and potentially dull decision
While I agree with your prediction - I guess though it depends on the definition of "long way off" and "top end" of the division.... if the top end is 2 fighters, then yes - but I think he has shown he's not a long way off Dillion White.
I mean far off in terms of likelihood of matching the top 2/3 of the division rather than where I’d rank him.
There is a decent case for Del being top ten in the world at the weight, and it would be unfair to have him outside of the top twenty in my view. That said though heavyweight is a notoriously shallow weight class and I wouldn’t give him a prayer against Joshua. Fury has already shown how superior he is to Chisora.
Usyk will be small for the weight and is possibly at the very early stage of his own decline. He shouldn’t have any bother with Chisora though, who isn’t technically great and is well past his best himself. He’s also shown a tendency to down tools a bit and go through the motions when being outboxed and I expect to see this again here.
Remarkable that both this fight, and the card supporting it, are deemed PPV worthy but then I think the same of guys buying a pair of trainers for £300 or a pint for a tenner. Plenty folk out there with more money than sense
Totally agree that him and Whyte are at about the same level though, I just don’t think a great deal of Whyte either (as a legitimate threat to the top few guys)
While I agree with your prediction - I guess though it depends on the definition of "long way off" and "top end" of the division.... if the top end is 2 fighters, then yes - but I think he has shown he's not a long way off Dillion White.
I mean far off in terms of likelihood of matching the top 2/3 of the division rather than where I’d rank him.
There is a decent case for Del being top ten in the world at the weight, and it would be unfair to have him outside of the top twenty in my view. That said though heavyweight is a notoriously shallow weight class and I wouldn’t give him a prayer against Joshua. Fury has already shown how superior he is to Chisora.
Usyk will be small for the weight and is possibly at the very early stage of his own decline. He shouldn’t have any bother with Chisora though, who isn’t technically great and is well past his best himself. He’s also shown a tendency to down tools a bit and go through the motions when being outboxed and I expect to see this again here.
Remarkable that both this fight, and the card supporting it, are deemed PPV worthy but then I think the same of guys buying a pair of trainers for £300 or a pint for a tenner. Plenty folk out there with more money than sense
Totally agree that him and Whyte are at about the same level though, I just don’t think a great deal of Whyte either (as a legitimate threat to the top few guys)
Usyk would be a huge bet for me if they matched him against Whyte and the price was good.
fizzjambo wrote: ↑26 Oct 2020, 18:33
Chisora is a long way off the top end of the division. I don’t see Usyk beating the very top end of the heavyweight division but his feet, hand speed and judgement should be way too much for Chisora. Usyk by wide and potentially dull decision
While I agree with your prediction - I guess though it depends on the definition of "long way off" and "top end" of the division.... if the top end is 2 fighters, then yes - but I think he has shown he's not a long way off Dillion White.
I mean far off in terms of likelihood of matching the top 2/3 of the division rather than where I’d rank him.
There is a decent case for Del being top ten in the world at the weight, and it would be unfair to have him outside of the top twenty in my view. That said though heavyweight is a notoriously shallow weight class and I wouldn’t give him a prayer against Joshua. Fury has already shown how superior he is to Chisora.
Usyk will be small for the weight and is possibly at the very early stage of his own decline. He shouldn’t have any bother with Chisora though, who isn’t technically great and is well past his best himself. He’s also shown a tendency to down tools a bit and go through the motions when being outboxed and I expect to see this again here.
Remarkable that both this fight, and the card supporting it, are deemed PPV worthy but then I think the same of guys buying a pair of trainers for £300 or a pint for a tenner. Plenty folk out there with more money than sense
I agree about Chis downing tools. I think Usyk will start off slow and turn the screw as rounds go on, will be letting of unanswered combos but unable to hurt Del. After three rounds barely landing, Chisora does a No Mas. There’s my prediction.
I spend that much on trainers all the time and it’s a shame if the booze is expensive somewhere but it’s not gonna stop me
Ahead of Oleksandr Usyk's huge Heavyweight clash with Derek Chisora at The SSE Arena, Wembley on Saturday October 31, shown live on Sky Sports Box Office in the UK and on DAZN in all of its nine markets including the U.S., all media and fans are invited to watch the below schedule of content leading up to the big night.
WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 28
10.00am Fighter Arrivals, Behind The Scenes Day 1 (Matchroom Boxing YouTube): Watch exclusive behind the scenes footage of the fighters and their teams arriving at the official fighter hotel 'bio bubble'.
11.00am to 5.00pm Fighter Media Day Coverage (Matchroom Boxing Twitter and Instagram): Fighters take part in media obligations.
6.00pm Oleksandr Usyk Q&A (Matchroom Boxing Twitter): Former Undisputed Cruiserweight king Oleksandr Usyk takes your questions in a live Q&A on the Matchroom Boxing Twitter account. Get your questions in using #AskUsyk
8.00pm Usyk vs. Chisora Exclusive Competition (Matchroom Boxing Twitter): Win a signed copy of Eddie Hearn's 'Relentless: 12 Rounds to Success'. Keep an eye on the Matchroom Boxing Twitter account for full details.
THURSDAY OCTOBER 29
10.00am Media Day Recap, Behind The Scenes Day 2 (Matchroom Boxing YouTube)
Watch exclusive behind the scenes footage as fighters undertake their media obligations.
2.00pm Usyk vs. Chisora + undercard press conferences (Matchroom Boxing YouTube and Facebook)
Presenters Chris Lloyd and Darren Barker bring you all of the action from the official press conferences chaired by promoter Eddie Hearn.
7.00pm Hearn and Bellew: Talk The Talk (Matchroom Boxing YouTube channel)
Promoter Eddie Hearn and former WBC Cruiserweight World Champion Tony Bellew catch up ahead of Saturday's huge Halloween Heavyweight showdown for a special episode of Hearn and Bellew: Talk The Talk recorded from the 'bubble'.
9.00pm Betfred Bubble Charity Darts Tournament (Matchroom Facebook and YouTube)
Eddie Hearn is joined by Tony Bellew, Darren Barker, Dave Allen, Josh Denzel and more for a Betfred Bubble Charity Darts Tournament!
FRIDAY OCTOBER 30
10.00am Press Conference Recap, Behind The Scenes Day 3 (Matchroom Boxing YouTube)
Watch exclusive behind the scenes footage from the official press conferences.
1.00pm Live Weigh-in (Matchroom Boxing YouTube and Facebook)
Join presenters Chris Lloyd and Darren Barker as all fighters hit the scales from 1.00pm.
6.00pm Friends Reunited: Bellew and Haye (Matchroom Boxing YouTube channel)
Former foes Tony Bellew and David Haye look back on their explosive Heavyweight encounters and ahead to fellow Brit Derek Chisora's huge clash with pound-for-pound star Oleksandr Usyk.
It's back! Bubble Trouble makes its long-awaited return as promoter Eddie Hearn is joined by a number of special guests from the bubble.
SATURDAY OCTOBER 31
10.00am Weigh-in Recap, Behind The Scenes Day 4 (Matchroom Boxing YouTube)
Watch exclusive behind the scenes footage from the official weigh-in.
10.30am War Chisora (Sky Sports Main Event)
As he prepares to face the Heavyweight division's newest threat in Oleksandr Usyk, see how Derek 'War' Chisora has earned his stripes as one of the most exciting fighters around.
3.30pm Before The Bell (Matchroom Boxing YouTube and Facebook)
Presenters Chris Lloyd and Darren Barker are joined by special guests from the arena as build-up continues towards the opening bell.
6.00pm Fight Night Live (Sky Sports Box Office and DAZN)
Watch all of the action live on Sky Sports Box Office in the UK and on DAZN in all of its nine markets including the U.S.
Delta Jay wrote: ↑28 Oct 2020, 10:02
Now that’s just taking the piss
Which bit?
The sheer amount of coverage and build up! I’m excited for the fight but that’s just so much stuff and will be the same highlights of each fighter on loop and the same backstory and hype-up sound bites being repeated and that kind of thing.
I’m really excited for all the boxing this weekend but that seems like total overkill.
Edit: The darts tournament and the Usyk Q&A sound funny to be fair
Delta Jay wrote: ↑28 Oct 2020, 10:02
Now that’s just taking the piss
Which bit?
The sheer amount of coverage and build up! I’m excited for the fight but that’s just so much stuff and will be the same highlights of each fighter on loop and the same backstory and hype-up sound bites being repeated and that kind of thing.
I’m really excited for all the boxing this weekend but that seems like total overkill.
Edit: The darts tournament and the Usyk Q&A sound funny to be fair
They usually do that for PPV's, probably adding a bit more cus it's pandemic etc.. They think people are bored or whatever.. Also probably trying to drive sales.
I think the people that are gonna buy this, already know they are. And anyone that isn't has probably already decided.
There may be some last minute buys, from those who think ooh wtf, I'll get it, or ones that are desperate and cannot find a stream.
Overkill for PPVs is a must, I never really pay attention to all the hype, teasers etc so I just switch over or scroll past but sky hype PPVs the correct way, that's how Whyte can sell 300k+ and that's why BTs go down like a knackered lift, as irritating as it all is, youd be a moron not to prostitute the product
Clever from BT making Tyson/Jones PPV mind, get the casuals to bankroll the free to air Joyce/Dubois, I like it
handsofstone wrote: ↑28 Oct 2020, 12:08
Overkill for PPVs is a must, I never really pay attention to all the hype, teasers etc so I just switch over or scroll past but sky hype PPVs the correct way, that's how Whyte can sell 300k+ and that's why BTs go down like a knackered lift, as irritating as it all is, youd be a moron not to prostitute the product
Yeh, all these Whyte interviews, with Anna and other things, they sold the crap out of Whyte.. Doing their best to get everyone behind Whyte and it worked..
Haye obviously had his power and that isn't to be overlooked, but he was also less durable and skilled than Usyk and the prime Chisora couldn't beat him. The biggest question mark for me is Usyk's injury risk against heavier opponents.
I find it easy to imagine Chisora starting on the front foot with the plan of letting his hands go if he can trap Usyk on the ropes, and if he can achieve that and force a stoppage it'll be his best performance, otherwise I think he'll blow himself out in the first half. There is a risk for Usyk if he's too passive, letting Del tire himself because he's too slow to present an immediate threat, and then disaster.
But yeah, unless he's injured I think Usyk's too sharp to walk onto anything obvious. The possible exception is if Chisora's knackered and he steps it up a little too much and leaves himself open, but I don't think he's ever done that?
A fighter like Usyk is a bad matchup for Del, not the right style/attributes for Del to do well against. like others though, i wonder about usyks susceptibility to injury, that is where del's shot lies i think, if usyk f@cks something up and del can then enforce himself
Derek Chisora versus Oleksandr Usyk will be broadcast on BBC Radio 5 Live on Saturday as part of a deal that also includes Anthony Joshua's next bout.
Chisora's Wembley Arena fight kick-starts a hectic spell in British boxing and BBC Radio 5 Live will air ringside commentary for four huge fight nights.
The deal includes world-title bouts featuring Katie Taylor on 14 November and Billy Joe Saunders on 4 December.
World heavyweight champion Joshua takes on Kubrat Pulev on 12 December.
"We were there for Anthony Joshua's redemption mission in Saudi Arabia last December and we'll be back at ringside for his first fight in more than a year," said BBC Sport boxing correspondent Mike Costello.
"With Billy Joe Saunders also back in action and Katie Taylor topping a bill featuring three women's world title fights, we've rarely featured a more hectic spell of boxing on 5 Live.
"Joshua's showdown against Kubrat Pulev closes out an unprecedented run of fights in British heavyweight boxing and it all begins at Wembley Arena on Saturday."
All of the bouts will be behind closed doors at Wembley Arena and BBC Sport will offer live text commentary alongside radio coverage.
Chisora, 36, is an underdog against Ukraine's Usyk, who has 17 wins from 17 bouts and held all four world titles at cruiserweight before moving up to the heavyweight division.
Taylor's bout two weeks later will see the 34-year-old Irishwoman risk all four of her women's world lightweight titles against Spain's undefeated Miriam Gutierrez, 37. The fight night features three women's bouts - all for world titles at different weights - at the top of the card.
Saunders, 31, will look to find momentum in defending his WBO world super-middleweight title against fellow Briton Martin Murray on 4 December. Murray, 38, has fought for a world title four times before and his five career defeats in 45 bouts have all come against elite opposition.
And Joshua will round off a hectic pre-Christmas period when he faces Bulgaria's Pulev with three of the four world heavyweight titles on the line.
A win could go a long way to setting up a 2021 meeting with Tyson Fury, who fights on 5 December and holds the only belt Joshua does not possess.
