Christopher Lovejoy's WBA ranking?

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wonder if sokolowski can fight dave
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Enlightened-One wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 11:50 According to iFL TV, Don King has pulled the plug on Christopher Lovejoy's bout against Dave Allen, with the American veteran promoter claiming he wants his fighter to face the WBA interim champion (Trevor Bryan) instead.

Apparently, Christopher Lovejoy disputes the contractual ties that Don King alleges.

And with Lovejoy's contractual status in doubt, Eddie Hearn says he won't pit the American against Dave Allen without Don King's approval.

So at the moment, Eddie Hearn is frantically trying to sort things out and also orchestrating a last-minute replacement for his charge.
Damn I wanted to see if he had any capability at all. I doubt he does but this would of been fun while it lasted
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I was in two minds whether to go for the PPV. I wasn't impressed by the undercard, Sky were showing Liverpool v West Ham live and England were playing in Italy for the 6 nations Rugby Union crown.

I wasn't short of sport to watch but what really swung it was the loss of the Allen v Lovejoy fight. That was going to be fascinating to see whether Lovejoy could actually fight. Even now that geriatric scumbag (King) still manages to affect boxing in a bad way, long after most had written him off as an irrelevance these days.

Eddie reckons nobody buys PPV for the undercard but he's wrong in my case, which probably means he's wrong in many people's cases. I didn't care about Joshua v Molina but I bought the PPV for Whyte v Chisora I.
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Christopher Lovejoy has been dropped from the WBA's latest rankings.

He was previously dropped from their rankings during January, but bizarrely re-entered them in July, even though he hadn't even fought (and no one else included in the WBA's ratings list had either).

Hopefully, this will be the last time we hear from this man, especially considering his lack of professionalism that compelled him to withdraw at the very last-minute from the Dave Allen bout.

However, he's rumoured to be at the front of the queue to face fellow Don King stablemate and also the WBA's interim champion, Trevor Bryan (who's been inactive for almost 2½ years).

Therefore, I'd expect Christopher Lovejoy to receive another top-fifteen ranking by the WBA in the near future, without requiring the need to even compete.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 12 Nov 2020, 08:06 Christopher Lovejoy has been dropped from the WBA's latest rankings.

He was previously dropped from their rankings during January, but bizarrely re-entered them in July, even though he hadn't even fought (and no one else included in the WBA's ratings list had either).

Hopefully, this will be the last time we hear from this man, especially considering his lack of professionalism that compelled him to withdraw at the very last-minute from the Dave Allen bout.

However, he's rumoured to be at the front of the queue to face fellow Don King stablemate and also the WBA's interim champion, Trevor Bryan (who's been inactive for almost 2½ years).

Therefore, I'd expect Christopher Lovejoy to receive another top-fifteen ranking by the WBA in the near future, without requiring the need to even compete.
So King has gone from 'thrilla in Manila' and 'rumble in the jungle' all the way down to 'Bryan vs Lovejoy for the WBA interim title'.

Surely the mad ol' bastard should take that as a sign that his time in the sport is done....
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Lovejoy still talking big on Instagram. His WBA ranking was the main incentive for opponents to fight him. It would be good to see him on a major platform at least once to see if he can box at all. He’s sparred with Jonathan Rice who says he’s half decent
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keirw wrote: 12 Nov 2020, 08:42
Enlightened-One wrote: 12 Nov 2020, 08:06 Christopher Lovejoy has been dropped from the WBA's latest rankings.

He was previously dropped from their rankings during January, but bizarrely re-entered them in July, even though he hadn't even fought (and no one else included in the WBA's ratings list had either).

Hopefully, this will be the last time we hear from this man, especially considering his lack of professionalism that compelled him to withdraw at the very last-minute from the Dave Allen bout.

However, he's rumoured to be at the front of the queue to face fellow Don King stablemate and also the WBA's interim champion, Trevor Bryan (who's been inactive for almost 2½ years).

Therefore, I'd expect Christopher Lovejoy to receive another top-fifteen ranking by the WBA in the near future, without requiring the need to even compete.
So King has gone from 'thrilla in Manila' and 'rumble in the jungle' all the way down to 'Bryan vs Lovejoy for the WBA interim title'.

Surely the mad ol' bastard should take that as a sign that his time in the sport is done....
I genuinely don't get why Don King is still in the sport, yh maybe about 20 years he put on decent shows but it just seems like his fighters never fight anymore. I just don't understand why you'd still be a promoter but all your fighters are inactive.
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Even the fact that the old bastard is still breathing, is a constant reminder of the saying "Only the good die young"
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Enlightened-One wrote: 12 Nov 2020, 08:06 Christopher Lovejoy has been dropped from the WBA's latest rankings.

He was previously dropped from their rankings during January, but bizarrely re-entered them in July, even though he hadn't even fought (and no one else included in the WBA's ratings list had either).

Hopefully, this will be the last time we hear from this man, especially considering his lack of professionalism that compelled him to withdraw at the very last-minute from the Dave Allen bout.

However, he's rumoured to be at the front of the queue to face fellow Don King stablemate and also the WBA's interim champion, Trevor Bryan (who's been inactive for almost 2½ years).

Therefore, I'd expect Christopher Lovejoy to receive another top-fifteen ranking by the WBA in the near future, without requiring the need to even compete.
It was Don King who stopped the LOvejoy/Allen fight as Don King claimed Bryan would be defending his WBA scoobie doo title against Lovejoy. I would say that WBA #15 ranking was Don KIng greasing the WBA palms like he always has. Although the WBA has given King & his 2 million bid for the Bryan/Charr a deadline to finalize the fight. They might as well just dissolve the Interim & Regular titles. Is Oquendo ever going to get that shot?
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It seems Oquendo has now disappeared from the WBA top 15 rankings.
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milpool wrote: 15 Dec 2020, 17:13 It seems Oquendo has now disappeared from the WBA top 15 rankings.
I just checked the rankings to see if they placed another unworthy boxer to replace Fres or Lovejoy, and to my amazement, they have Arreola at 8 and Dinu at 9.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 11:50 According to iFL TV, Don King has pulled the plug on Christopher Lovejoy's bout against Dave Allen, with the American veteran promoter claiming he wants his fighter to face the WBA interim champion (Trevor Bryan) instead.

Apparently, Christopher Lovejoy disputes the contractual ties that Don King alleges.

And with Lovejoy's contractual status in doubt, Eddie Hearn says he won't pit the American against Dave Allen without Don King's approval.

So at the moment, Eddie Hearn is frantically trying to sort things out and also orchestrating a last-minute replacement for his charge.
I forgot to mention in my post reply earlier that King hadn't promoted his last 7 fights so he was under the impression he was no longer with King. WTF? Don King used to put on great HW cards but man it is a serious case of hanging on. If Bryan/Charr actually happens before the Jan 28 deadline & Bryan wins that fight (Which I think he will) then Don King will have the next WBA mandatory with whoever is the WBA champion in 2022. I'm not sure that 2 million bid will hold up so I expect this fight NOT to happen. Both guys get a million. Wonder is Fres Oquendo is still lurking? Been owed that shot since 2014. The only 2 fights Fres has had since is in court. He won his case & is owed a title shot. He was also awarded $950000 US. Then when Charr or Browne (Can't recall which one it was) failed the drug test he was awarded $250000 (his purse) as it was in the contract if Charr or Browne failed a drug test he would be paid his purse regardless. Not bad money at all! 1.2 million & all he had to do was wear a suit to court...
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joe strong wrote: 15 Dec 2020, 16:09
Enlightened-One wrote: 12 Nov 2020, 08:06 Christopher Lovejoy has been dropped from the WBA's latest rankings.

He was previously dropped from their rankings during January, but bizarrely re-entered them in July, even though he hadn't even fought (and no one else included in the WBA's ratings list had either).

Hopefully, this will be the last time we hear from this man, especially considering his lack of professionalism that compelled him to withdraw at the very last-minute from the Dave Allen bout.

However, he's rumoured to be at the front of the queue to face fellow Don King stablemate and also the WBA's interim champion, Trevor Bryan (who's been inactive for almost 2½ years).

Therefore, I'd expect Christopher Lovejoy to receive another top-fifteen ranking by the WBA in the near future, without requiring the need to even compete.
It was Don King who stopped the LOvejoy/Allen fight as Don King claimed Bryan would be defending his WBA scoobie doo title against Lovejoy. I would say that WBA #15 ranking was Don KIng greasing the WBA palms like he always has. Although the WBA has given King & his 2 million bid for the Bryan/Charr a deadline to finalize the fight. They might as well just dissolve the Interim & Regular titles. Is Oquendo ever going to get that shot?
Yeah, posthumously :D
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I doubt king is greasing palms for a guy that hasn't fought in ages.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 17 Dec 2020, 15:28 I doubt king is greasing palms for a guy that hasn't fought in ages.
How do you explain Lovejoy's on again off again WBA #15 ranking. Don King trying to get Bryan to defend against him & wouldn't he have to be ranked to get a shot at the WBA scoobie doio title? Bryan is one win away from being Joshua's mandatory. Don King won't want to lose his last chance at staying alive in the HW division. We will see if Charr/Bryan actually happens or I would not be surprised to see Lovejoy get his shot just to erase the inactivity & threat of Bryan being stripped. Just a theory though...
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joe strong wrote: 18 Dec 2020, 19:02
Onetimeonly wrote: 17 Dec 2020, 15:28 I doubt king is greasing palms for a guy that hasn't fought in ages.
How do you explain Lovejoy's on again off again WBA #15 ranking. Don King trying to get Bryan to defend against him & wouldn't he have to be ranked to get a shot at the WBA scoobie doio title? Bryan is one win away from being Joshua's mandatory. Don King won't want to lose his last chance at staying alive in the HW division. We will see if Charr/Bryan actually happens or I would not be surprised to see Lovejoy get his shot just to erase the inactivity & threat of Bryan being stripped. Just a theory though...
What does King have to gain by putting up money for Lovejoy? Especially after all these months in the rankings. It certainly hasn't made him a nickel.
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joe strong wrote: 18 Dec 2020, 19:02
Onetimeonly wrote: 17 Dec 2020, 15:28 I doubt king is greasing palms for a guy that hasn't fought in ages.
How do you explain Lovejoy's on again off again WBA #15 ranking. Don King trying to get Bryan to defend against him & wouldn't he have to be ranked to get a shot at the WBA scoobie doio title? Bryan is one win away from being Joshua's mandatory. Don King won't want to lose his last chance at staying alive in the HW division. We will see if Charr/Bryan actually happens or I would not be surprised to see Lovejoy get his shot just to erase the inactivity & threat of Bryan being stripped. Just a theory though...
How would you explain Trevor Bryan never fighting? I wouldn't begin to guess on the any number of nonsensical reasons the wba works. I'd start with whom promotes Lovejoy. If it ain't king it ain't king. If don paid he would mysteriously show up and the fight would get made.
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The WBA title situation is hysterical. Charr still has the world title even having not fought in 3 years and 1 month. Bryan still has the interim title after not fighting for 2 years 4 months. The WBA titles are so stagnant that the WBA had to invent an alternative interim title, the gold championship, which is like the "no really, this is basically the real world title." And, on top of that, the lower-rated fighter won the Kownacki - Helenius fight, so their champion is basically a gatekeeper who has routinely maintained a #40 ranking.

Also pretty funny that Lovejoy only has 1 opponent with a winning record on his entire resume. Like... can't he even find a 2-1 opponent to fight?
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Dave Allen was supposed to be his last opponent until King put the kybosh on it. Quite why Hearn was so deferential to that geriatric scumbag, I have no idea, but Allen was so dispirited by the whole thing he announced his retirement ( I think that was the final straw.)

Whatever you might say about Dave Allen he is the most brutally and painfully honest of people, and he said that Lovejoy told him, not necessarily word for word ... "I can't fight, I'm a hustler, that's what I do". Allen was bewildered and disgusted, and resentful at having his time wasted by a publicity seeker. He'd really got himself in shape and he is not someone who loves training. I hope Dave stays retired. He relies too much on his great chin and his courage. His skills are much improved but not so much that he should be sharing a ring with the likes of Luis Ortiz, Dillian Whyte, Tony Yoka etc. He is a really genuine bloke and I would hate to see him get his brain scrambled.
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Seems like Lovejoy is under contract with Don King until 5th May 2021, so we won't be seeing him anytime soon...
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adobson15 wrote: 21 Dec 2020, 07:39 Seems like Lovejoy is under contract with Don King until 5th May 2021, so we won't be seeing him anytime soon...
If Lovejoy is lucky, he had Covid going into that masks off meeting.
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adobson15 wrote: 21 Dec 2020, 07:39 Seems like Lovejoy is under contract with Don King until 5th May 2021, so we won't be seeing him anytime soon...
The guy shows up with $8000 to buy out his contract? Then King wanted $15000? A scum bag right to the bitter end. It is beyond me why anyone would sign a contract with DKP.
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Exactly. What does he need the money for anyway? He should stop breathing and do the world a favour.

You might be able to tell I'm not DK's biggest fan.
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Sky Sports seem to keep talking about him.

Like an obsession..

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/1 ... -a-problem

He is in no way 'threatening' the HW division.
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they want one of ed's bois to do him
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