First WBC 224 lb champion?

[Onetimeonly]

Not sure why wilder would be looking for that. His cash out is fury 3, and a Josh fight.

[DrDuke]

Wilder's silence is probably a sign of him just knowing this stuff and just waiting for WBC to announce this new belt vacant and Wilder himself being a contender for that. Hopefully Povetkin repeats against Whyte, gets a shot against Wilder in this new joke division and KOs Deontay. Well, it's even a relatively real scenario.

[siablo14]

Nah he'd be fine. Jon Jones has spent his entire UFC career dropping ~20 pounds for weigh-ins and he's widely considered the best fighter the sport has ever seen.

Different athletes; different circumstances. AJ is always a very low body fat. Jones is 2 inches shorter and not built as huge as AJ. Also I don't remember seeing Jones all cut up and 240 lbs.

Jones makes 205 though, not 225. If anything it should be easier for AJ to drop 15 pounds for weigh-in.

Not saying it would happen, as I don't see why AJ would bother. But he absolutely could.

Only is if a big star is in that division for him to face.

[tiny_acres]

The first title match will be Wilder vs someone, that's for sure.

I think we can all agree that Wilder will be there first #1 contender.

[bobcatbox]

The first title match will be Wilder vs someone, that's for sure.

I think we can all agree that Wilder will be there first #1 contender.

It only makes sense as their heavyweight champ for a long time. This is one way for them as a sanctioning body to try and coerce the third Fury fight. By making Wilder the #1 mando they can force Fury to fight him at 224 or be stripped.

[adislav123]

fury at 224? would be quite a sight.

fury hopping in & out of reach and beating up the "most ferocious puncher in the history of the sport" on one leg after he cut off the other one cause mighty wbc "forced him" to make 224.

[tiny_acres]

The first title match will be Wilder vs someone, that's for sure.

I think we can all agree that Wilder will be there first #1 contender.

It only makes sense as their heavyweight champ for a long time. This is one way for them as a sanctioning body to try and coerce the third Fury fight. By making Wilder the #1 mando they can force Fury to fight him at 224 or be stripped.

Fury will never be 224 or less.
This is a move to make Wilder champion again but now in a new division.
I'm curious what the new ratings will look like

[tiny_acres]

fury at 224? would be quite a sight.

fury hopping in & out of reach and beating up the "most ferocious puncher in the history of the sport" on one leg after he cut off the other one cause mighty wbc "forced him" to make 224.

Fury could cut off a leg and still have to sweat out an additional 20 pounds to make 224

[bobcatbox]

fury at 224? would be quite a sight.

fury hopping in & out of reach and beating up the "most ferocious puncher in the history of the sport" on one leg after he cut off the other one cause mighty wbc "forced him" to make 224.

Fury could cut off a leg and still have to sweat out an additional 20 pounds to make 224

Lol. Accurate. I went back and looked at his weights from past fights and realized yeah there’s no way. Wilder is presumptive WBC favorite are 224. Will they make Ruiz the mando to fight for the “vacant” WBC Super Heavyweight title?

[Enlightened-One]

Michael Hunter, Filip Hrgovic, Tony Yoka and Hughie Fury would all very likely consider competing at 224lbs.

I’d even favour them to capture all four vacant titles, because let’s face it, we won’t have long to wait until the WBA, WBO & the IBF follows the WBC’s lead.

They’re all prospects that are several years away from title shots in the heavier weight class.

For sure, there might be other fighters physically capable of competing at 224lbs, such Oleksandr Usyk, Oscar Rivas and perhaps even Efe Ajagba, but I think they’d earn more money and/or would be more comfortable campaigning in the heaviest weight class.

[ash.123]

Do fighters under 224lb have the choice of fighting at heavyweight anyway?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Do fighters under 224lb have the choice of fighting at heavyweight anyway?

Don’t see why not.

[Jimmy2020]

Could be the best division by far. It would get rid of fat heavyweights.

Which elite heavyweights in the division now or in history couldn't make the 224lb weight limit?

I get Tyson Fury, Andy Ruiz (both could diet to 244lb and cut 20lbs but I doubt they'd want to) and Nicolai Valuev. That's it. Everyone else could've done 224lbs in their prime easily. This includes Anthony Joshua, both Klitschkos and every top drawer heavyweight of note in history. Jujigatame has explained weight cutting already.

[jujigatame]

I don't really see how removing Fury, Ruiz, Chisora, and Whyte makes the division better. It just takes 1 somewhat thin division and makes 2 extremely thin divisions out of it.

[Jimmy2020]

I don't really see how removing Fury, Ruiz, Chisora, and Whyte makes the division better. It just takes 1 somewhat thin division and makes 2 extremely thin divisions out of it.

Hello, long term it makes it better (for me). Fury is tremendous but boring to watch for all but the purists. Let him have a trilogy with Joshua based on talk and hype and then retire. Whyte and Chisora are both fat guys who would make 224lbs if that's where the money was.

[H8Usernames]

Fury will blast Joshua out of there in a hearbeat just like he did with Wilder. Joshua is not going to allow Fury to knock him out three times.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Tony Bellew wants Deontay Wilder vs Oleksandr Usyk for vacant title in new ‘super-cruiserweight’ division being created by the WBC

Tony Bellew has stated that he is firmly in favour of creating a new ‘super-cruiserweight’ division in boxing.

At the WBC convention last month, the former cruiserweight world champion was placed in charge of a new committee to investigate Don Majeski’s proposal to form a new division between cruiserweight and heavyweight.

The plan has now been accepted and is being finalised by the WBC.

As things stand, the top three divisions in the sport are light-heavyweight (175lbs), cruiserweight (200lbs) and heavyweight (200lbs+).

During his career, Bellew competed in all three of these categories.

He told talkSPORT Fight Night: “I am a fighter who fought obviously at light-heavyweight.

“I boiled down to that weight category and then jumped up immediately and went to cruiserweight.

“I’ve done it, so I understand how tough the weight jump is.

“The difference in all the other weight categories is minimal – 4lbs, 3lbs, sometimes 6lbs.

“The weight jump from light-heavyweight to cruiserweight is from 175lbs to 200lbs – that’s 25lbs.

"That’s just too much, I get what Don Majeski’s saying because in the current game at heavyweight the big boys are too big and the smaller heavyweights are not able to compete with the bigger boys.

“As great as some of them are – the likes of Oleksandr Usyk – it’s looked at now that he’s not gonna be able to compete with the monsters.

“Not because of his boxing ability, purely because of his size…

“Here’s where my thinking goes with the WBC, and I’ve said this to Mauricio Sulaiman the WBC president.

“I actually like the divisions going from 175lbs up to 190lbs [instead of 200lbs].

“That will make it a bit better for the guys who are struggling at light-heavyweight, but are not monster cruiserweights.

“Then, if I had my way, I would go from 190lbs to 220lbs. You’re looking at the ‘small heavyweights’.

“I would’ve fallen into that category quite comfortably, Oleksandr Usyk falls into that category quite comfortably.

“Deontay Wilder falls into that category quite comfortably, David Haye falls into that category quite comfortably.”

When this idea was initially floated by the WBC a couple of years ago, their thought was to make a new ‘super-heavyweight’ division.

This was slammed by fans who insisted that the iconic heavyweight division must remain boxing’s greatest prize.

Bellew agreed: “You can’t mess around, you can’t have a ‘super-heavyweight’ in boxing.

“There’s one heavyweight division, that’s all there should ever be, you can’t go messing around with the names of them.

“People say, ‘Well, what would you call it?’

“I would say you go to cruiserweight [at 190lbs] and maybe ‘super-cruiserweight’ [at 220lbs].

“Something of that ilk. You can’t ever have a ‘super-heavyweight’ division, it’s not reasonable, it’s ridiculous.

“This weight class we’re looking to bring in is the perfect thing and if I had complete control of something like this, the first match-up I would look to do would be Deontay Wilder vs Oleksandr Usyk for the belt.

“It’s an amazing fight, the division would be relevant immediately with a fight of that magnitude.”

[IRL25]

If the WBC wanted to introduce a new weight division, split Cruiserweight in half and have a Light Cruiserweight at the original weight of 13stone 8lbs and keep Cruiserweight at 14stone 4lbs.

[Lenny Cravats]

If the WBC wanted to introduce a new weight division, split Cruiserweight in half and have a Light Cruiserweight at the original weight of 13stone 8lbs and keep Cruiserweight at 14stone 4lbs.

Langers, is that you old boy?

[brilo33]

Holyfield vs Bowe.

Michael Moorer vs Foreman.

Tyson winning a title from a man the size of Bonecrusher Smith.

Hell Usyk potentially fighting AJ or Fury for the HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP.

Moments like these are what fans are being robbed of. Moments that can create fans for life. Moments that define the sport.

The bigger money will be a super heavy so fighters will bulk up to get the bigger payday, if that's where the bigger stars are at.

I doubt you'll ever see a particularly nimble or fast fighter at over 230 pounds.

Holyfield and Tyson were on average more exciting in 1 fight than 5 or 6 fights of today's Super Heavyweights.

well we did that poll of better fights fighters of an era of the likes of Holyfield and Tyson won hands down. if anything should have a divison from light hv to crw

[gilgamesh]

The bigger money will be a super heavy so fighters will bulk up to get the bigger payday, if that's where the bigger stars are at.

I doubt you'll ever see a particularly nimble or fast fighter at over 230 pounds.

Holyfield and Tyson were on average more exciting in 1 fight than 5 or 6 fights of today's Super Heavyweights.

well we did that poll of better fights fighters of an era of the likes of Holyfield and Tyson won hands down. if anything should have a divison from light hv to crw

What the hell is with you guys wanting more divisions every 5 and 10 pounds?

The gap between Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight whenever it was 175 to 190, was fine.

[brilo33]

I doubt you'll ever see a particularly nimble or fast fighter at over 230 pounds.

Holyfield and Tyson were on average more exciting in 1 fight than 5 or 6 fights of today's Super Heavyweights.

well we did that poll of better fights fighters of an era of the likes of Holyfield and Tyson won hands down. if anything should have a divison from light hv to crw

What the hell is with you guys wanting more divisions every 5 and 10 pounds?

The gap between Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight whenever it was 175 to 190, was fine.

i dont want more divisions at all

[gilgamesh]

well we did that poll of better fights fighters of an era of the likes of Holyfield and Tyson won hands down. if anything should have a divison from light hv to crw

What the hell is with you guys wanting more divisions every 5 and 10 pounds?

The gap between Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight whenever it was 175 to 190, was fine.

i dont want more divisions at all

Good

[brilo33]

What the hell is with you guys wanting more divisions every 5 and 10 pounds?

The gap between Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight whenever it was 175 to 190, was fine.

i dont want more divisions at all

Good

i agree with you . i cant belive wilders people are moaing fury is huge .wilder is like 1inch smaller . iam in my 30s and i can make 160 or 168 even 178, i mean saul shows how it is done, ill have less weights less belts middleweight champion would be that 160 up to 168

[Paci]

Im blaming this new divs on Tony Bellew. Cause it is all His Scheme to claim another ABC-belt in a future comeback.