Can Josh Taylor - Jose Ramirez be a megafight?

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Cent0089
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Can Josh Taylor - Jose Ramirez be a megafight?

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Bob Arum said this fight will need a crowd, so probably wont happen in near future. But Arnold Barboza and Jose Zepeda are both with Top Rank and are worthy oponents for those two. If both Taylor and Ramirez can beat wothy oponents, maybe it will add a value to the undisputed unification?
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It's a one of the best matchups in boxing today and it's time to make it. Period.
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If at elast thousand fans was allowed. Watched Loma-Lopez without fans was weird for me :(
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Cent0089 wrote: 30 Oct 2020, 06:05 If at elast thousand fans was allowed. Watched Loma-Lopez without fans was weird for me :(
I don't give a damn about crowds. Of course, the noise of the crowd brings some special feel, but it's the secondary thing for me. It was so bad without new bouts during the lockdown and it's good they they are happening now, no matter with crowds or without them.
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From the perspective of harcore boxing aficionados, the Taylor-Ramirez bout is definitely super-fight status, because the winner will become an undisputed champion holding all four titles and also gain entry as one of the sports top-ten pound-for-pounders.

Unfortunately though, from a commercial perspective, it's not a mega fight. Mainstream casuals probably don't know who these guys are.

Taylor and Ramirez will probably want to get paid a hefty sum to risk losing their titles and unbeaten records. And Top Rank may struggle to pay them the purses they desire, without gate receipts and only a small PPV buyrate.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 30 Oct 2020, 07:48 From the perspective of harcore boxing aficionados, the Taylor-Ramirez bout is definitely super-fight status, because the winner will become an undisputed champion holding all four titles and also gain entry as one of the sports top-ten pound-for-pounders.

Unfortunately though, from a commercial perspective, it's not a mega fight. Mainstream casuals probably don't know who these guys are.

Taylor and Ramirez will probably want to get paid a hefty sum to risk losing their titles and unbeaten records. And Top Rank may struggle to pay them the purses they desire, without gate receipts and only a small PPV buyrate.
Kind of like When Crawford fought Postol or even Indongo..
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Oct 2020, 08:46
Enlightened-One wrote: 30 Oct 2020, 07:48 From the perspective of harcore boxing aficionados, the Taylor-Ramirez bout is definitely super-fight status, because the winner will become an undisputed champion holding all four titles and also gain entry as one of the sports top-ten pound-for-pounders.

Unfortunately though, from a commercial perspective, it's not a mega fight. Mainstream casuals probably don't know who these guys are.

Taylor and Ramirez will probably want to get paid a hefty sum to risk losing their titles and unbeaten records. And Top Rank may struggle to pay them the purses they desire, without gate receipts and only a small PPV buyrate.
Kind of like When Crawford fought Postol or even Indongo..
Crawford allegedly earned $1.3m to face Postol, who was paid $675K for their ESPN PPV, which attracted roughly 55K buys, about 50% less than the figured forecasted by Top Rank.

And despite this fight generating gate receipt revenue, Bob Arum openly admits to the fact that staging the Crawford-Postol event resulted in him losing $100K.

Josh Taylor apparently received a $2m guarantee, coupled with 65% of the PPV revenue, for the Khongsong bout.

Jose Ramirez allegedly earned $850K for the Postol bout.

Taylor and Ramirez will want much bigger purses than the sums they received for their most recent outings in order to face each other.

Any fight involving Taylor-Ramirez currently won’t benefit from any gate receipt revenue and the oversaturated PPV market will inevitably result in a disappointing buy-rate, since neither of these guys are big names.

Even Bob Arum has admitted the Taylor-Ramirez fight can't be staged without gate receipt revenue (his words). He won't even consider staging this fight without an audience.
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I believe loma-lopez had a combined purse of slightly over $4m. By all accounts it drew good ratings so you would have to think espn might be willing to pony up a bit more for this one. Maybe that will be enough to get it done?

It isn't a megafight though. Megafights are oscar-tito, floyd-pac, ect.
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it is a mega fight shame we cant have that in murrayfield in july , i know a good few londoners who know there boxing want to see him live
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So these 2 have all 4 belts. Who are mandatories ?
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Cent0089 wrote: 31 Oct 2020, 08:30 So these 2 have all 4 belts. Who are mandatories ?
It seems, that up to the date there're no mandatories and the bout is in the progress of making.
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For the foreseeable future, everyone on all ends needs to give up on the idea of generating money in the way that fights could before the pandemic. "It's not gonna be the same without gates, this and that," yeah, no kidding. It's just not. Try to wait that stuff out, you'll just lose the chance to make the fights happen at all.
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