Luis Ortiz vs. Alexander Flores - November 7, 2020

[lazboy]

Erm was that a dive? Surely. Look at the second replay, the power ripples through his body rather than his head.

Was Flores saying he was hurt to the body? If he said he was hurt to the head then that is very unbelievable.

It looked like a dive pretty much.

He said when his head collided Ortiz’s arm, his eyes went blank and then said after he fell, he felt numbness in his leg. That’s why he was favouring his leg.

He had enough sense and ability to coordinate his fall, putting his hands out to balance himself. Seems like he is talking shite.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Ortiz should fight Charles Martin..

[DrDuke]

Ortiz should fight Charles Martin..

Could be a decent matchup. Ortiz should fight just someone capable of fighting. Be it Martin or the likes of Frank Sanchez, Dominic Breazeale, Michael Hunter, etc.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Ortiz should fight Charles Martin..

Could be a decent matchup. Ortiz should fight just someone capable of fighting. Be it Martin or the likes of Frank Sanchez, Dominic Breazeale, Michael Hunter, etc.

He did wel against Kownacki.. Few had him winning, but I think it was only a 10 rounder wasn't it..

[DrDuke]

Ortiz should fight Charles Martin..

Could be a decent matchup. Ortiz should fight just someone capable of fighting. Be it Martin or the likes of Frank Sanchez, Dominic Breazeale, Michael Hunter, etc.

He did wel against Kownacki.. Few had him winning, but I think it was only a 10 rounder wasn't it..

Yes, it was. I had it for Kownacki, but it was competetive for sure.

Also, Martin comes out of a KO win over Washington. And Washington is a quite real option for Ortiz as well, but I wouldn't like it very much, it's way more predictable than the other mentioned matchups.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Could be a decent matchup. Ortiz should fight just someone capable of fighting. Be it Martin or the likes of Frank Sanchez, Dominic Breazeale, Michael Hunter, etc.

He did wel against Kownacki.. Few had him winning, but I think it was only a 10 rounder wasn't it..

Yes, it was. I had it for Kownacki, but it was competetive for sure.

Also, Martin comes out of a KO win over Washington. And Washington is a quite real option for Ortiz as well, but I wouldn't like it very much, it's way more predictable than the other mentioned matchups.

Most of these guys are mixing.

Washington beat Helenius, but lost to Kownacki
Kownacki beat Washington but lost to Helenius
Martin lost to Kownacki, but beat Washington

[DrDuke]

He did wel against Kownacki.. Few had him winning, but I think it was only a 10 rounder wasn't it..

Yes, it was. I had it for Kownacki, but it was competetive for sure.

Also, Martin comes out of a KO win over Washington. And Washington is a quite real option for Ortiz as well, but I wouldn't like it very much, it's way more predictable than the other mentioned matchups.

Most of these guys are mixing.

Washington beat Helenius, but lost to Kownacki
Kownacki beat Washington but lost to Helenius
Martin lost to Kownacki, but beat Washington

That's true, but Washington still looks the most vulnerable and the least tough in the list. I'd say, Ortiz is likely to KO him with the highest probability.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Mike Coppinger has reported that the CSAC has withheld Flores' purse.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Until the review is complete, the commission is withholding the $80,000 Flores was due to receive.

[Enlightened-One]

As dubious as the stoppage appears to be, the commission can't prove that Lores dived.

Alexander will inevitably be paid his $80K purse very soon.

And while we're at it, if Luis Ortiz needs another easy KO victory, whereby I can take a knee and be counted out after being on the receiving end of a few glancing blows, then I'm more than willing to accept $80K to become his next opponent.

It makes me laugh witnessing PBC mismatches of this nature, whereby the alleged "fearsome" favourite scores an easy first round KO victory over a journeyman, whereby neither fighter is on the receiving end of any real punishment.

Ortiz's victory over Flores was reminiscent of Deontay Wilder' controversial stoppage over Malik Scott (whereby the right hand didn't appear to land).

[cormack]

Until the review is complete, the commission is withholding the $80,000 Flores was due to receive.

totally justified

he didnt even look like he got into shape at all for this , weak as a kitten was my thoughts as the first few punches were traded .

[DrDuke]

For such performance instead of a paycheck Flores gotta be punched for real.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Ortiz-Flores PBC on Fox Main Event Peaks At 1,312,000 Viewers

The first win in nearly two years for Luis Ortiz has landed as the most watched Fox Sports boxing event since the pandemic.

Miami’s Ortiz made quick work of fringe contender Alexander Flores, needing just 45 seconds to end the November 7 main event, which peaked at 1,312,000 viewers according to Nielsen Media Research. The rating serves as the best figure for any of the five Fox-prime main events since returning to airwaves in August.

The show as a whole—which aired live from Microsoft Theater in downtown Los Angeles—averaged 982,000 viewers, marking the second-best total over that same period. The event was outperformed only by the preceding Premier Boxing Champions on Fox telecast, in which Yordenis Ugas’ 12-round win over Abel Ramos topped a special Sunday edition on September 6 which averaged 1,019,000 viewers. Ugas’ secondary title-winning effort peaked at 1.26 million viewers.

Saturday’s edition scores above the five-telecast average of 905,600 viewers per show since the pandemic.

Biden’s victory over the soon-to-be-exiting President Donald Trump was newsworthy enough at the 8:00 p.m. ET hour to force Carlos Negron’s 2nd round knockout of Rafael Rios onto FS2. The quick ending also meant that Michael Coffie’s hoped-for Fox-prime debut instead resulted in regional cable coverage, where the 34-year old U.S. Marine earned a 2nd round injury stoppage of journeyman Joey Abell.

The impromptu hour-long political news special averaged 1.462 million viewers.

In addition to the near hour-long delay into the live action, the telecast also went head-to-head with college football on NBC. The game turned out to be an instant classic, with number-four ranked Notre Dame Fighting Irish defeating number-one ranked Clemson Tigers, 47-40 in a double-overtime thriller which averaged 10,067,000 viewers.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Flores has now been paid his $80k purse.

[DrDuke]

Flores has now been paid his $80k purse.

Looks like a decent paycheck for an actor-beginner.

[Enlightened-One]

Flores has now been paid his $80k purse.

Was always going to happen. The commission probably waited for the media furore to die down before paying the purse.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Flores has now been paid his $80k purse.

Was always going to happen. The commission probably waited for the media furore to die down before paying the purse.

Always the case...

[Ruthless-RKO]

CSAC Releases $80K Purse To Flores Following Review of KO Loss To Luis Ortiz

The California State Athletic Commission on Monday released heavyweight Alexander Flores’ $80,000 purse after initially withholding it for possible lack of effort in a first-round knockout loss to former two-time world title challenger Luis “King Kong” Ortiz on Nov. 7.

Ortiz knocked out Flores in just 45 seconds in the main event of a Premier Boxing Champions card on Fox at the Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles.

Within minutes of the end of the bout, Andy Foster, the executive director of the California commission, made the decision to withhold Flores’ purse pending an investigation into his performance and a hearing. The fight ended when Ortiz (32-2, 27 KOs), who was paid his $250,000 purse on fight night, threw a right hook to Flores’ midsection that did not appear to land cleanly.

On Monday, the commission held a hearing via Zoom video conference on the matter, which Flores was required to attend, and ultimately voted 4-0 to release Flores’ purse in full.

“After having additional time to review the bout and further consultation with Dr. (Paul) Wallace, the Ringside Physician, I defer to Dr. Wallace’s judgment that Mr. Flores sustained adequate trauma and should not have continued in the bout,” Foster said. “I recommend Mr. Flores receive his full purse for the bout.”

Foster recounted his reason for initially withholding the purse in his written statement, which was part of investigation and obtained by BS.

“Chief Athletic Inspector Mark Relyea and the Ringside Physician Dr. Wallace notified me they were questioning the outcome of the bout between Alexander Flores and Luis Ortiz,” Foster wrote. “The concern was whether Alexander Flores intentionally was not competing to the best of his ability. After consultation with the Chief Athletic Inspector, the referee (Thomas Taylor) and the Ringside Physician, and with the information available to me the evening of the bout, I made the decision to withhold Mr. Flores’ purse pending a hearing with the Commission so we can further review the matter. Once the decision was made, I notified the Chair and the Commission’s Legal Counsel of what had occurred.”

As part of the investigation, the commission obtained written statements from Relyea, Taylor, Wallace and athletic commission inspectors Angel Berroteran, who was assigned to Ortiz, and Raul Oseguera, who was assigned to Flores, in which each explained what they witnessed.

“While Alexander Flores was a suitable opponent, he was considered a significant underdog in this contest. Once the contest began, Flores appeared to be overmatched,” Relyea wrote in his statement. “He did not look like he entered the contest in the best condition. Flores also looked threatened by the punching power of Ortiz. Forty-five seconds into the contest Ortiz struck Flores with a loud roundhouse punch. Flores fell to the canvas. This knockdown looked unusual and awkward to the public. I was not sure where the punch of Ortiz landed on Flores.

“I noted Ortiz looked surprised that Flores fell to the canvas while walking to the neutral corner. Referee Thomas Taylor began his count on Flores who was on ‘all fours’ until he stood up at the count of nine. Referee Taylor looked at Flores, who appeared to be hurt, and stopped the bout. Dr. Wallace, who was sitting at the end of commission table and had the best view of the knockout, questioned the damage to Flores stating that he did not see a clean punch land.

“Executive Officer Andy Foster, who watched the event on television, sent me a text message stating that the knockout looked unusual and questioned whether or not Flores competed in earnest. He informed me that members of the promotion had raised the same question. Based on these observations, I instructed Inspector Angel Berroteran, who was assigned to Ortiz, to question him about the validity of the knockout. Berroteran returned a few minutes later and informed me that Ortiz said that he had struck him with a good body shot earlier but was surprised that Flores could not continue after he was knocked down by the right hook. Ortiz stated that maybe Flores was just in the fight for the money.”

Relyea went on to write that members of the commission tried to interview Flores about the knockout but he had already left the building, at which point Foster made the decision to hold the purse.

During the post-fight briefing with officials, Relyea said he spoke with Oseguera, who said he believed Flores was legitimately hurt by the punch and unable to go on.

“It is clear that this knockout was unique,” Relyea wrote. “Based on the questions that arose from the circumstances and the amount of money involved in the purse of both contestants, our Commission had a clear obligation to inquire into this matter. However, based on the review of the facts, in my opinion there is not sufficient evidence to indicate that Flores failed to compete in earnest. I recommend that Flores be paid the full contracted amount of his purse, and that this inquiry is not referenced in his record of performance.”

Wallace, a longtime California ringside doctor, said he did not believe Flores was able to go with the fight after the knockdown.

“After further video review and consultation with our (neurologic committee), I believe the boxer sustained adequate trauma to match his complaints and I do not believe the boxer should have continued,” Wallace wrote in his statement.

Flores (18-3-1, 16 KOs), 30, of Rowland Heights, California, has been knocked out early in all three of his losses, including by former heavyweight titleholders Joseph Parker (in the third round in 2018) and Charles Martin (in the fourth round in 2014).

[Duran1970]

Ok here's your money now go away.. should never be seen or heard from again.