Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Who wins?

Poll ended at 15 Nov 2020, 09:46

Crawford - Decision
10
14%
Crawford - T/KO
52
70%
DRAW
1
1%
Brook - T/KO
7
9%
Brook - Decision
4
5%
 
Total votes: 74

CMDY
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by CMDY »

Boxerbeetle wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 04:02 Brook was totally done, didn't know where he was. Hopefully he'll cash out now, should have retired after the Spence fight really, hasn't looked the same since.
Think right stopage at this stage in career. I wouldn't want to see Brook fight again but suspect a PPV with Khan now.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by Ricky »

Early stoppage.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by Bigdogsnose »

Hope thats it for Brook. Cant be arsed with him talking about fighting for the next 12 months, talking about being in the best shape of his life. He's clearly a shadow of himself. That looked really tame tonight, first time crawford committed it was game over.

Crawfords a mean fornicator. He'll hurt manny bad.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by Tuan_Jim »

Stoppage in that clip looks way too early for me.

Listening to the commentators speaking in their cartoon character voices makes me glad I barely watch any new boxing anymore.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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Crawford gave away the first two rounds in the orthodox stance, as he was calculating Brook. Crawford often starts slow in order to adapt to opponents and/or to try something new. And it works. Brook was sentenced since the 3rd round.

The money hook was perfect. It was so fast and short, as if it was a jab. It was perfectly executed, powerful and spectacular. The stoppage was good, Brook was hurt badly and was being battered. Eventually it was the most convincing win over Brook up to the date.

Brook probably can do some more or less valuable fights for him, but I doubt he can compete at the highest level anymore.

Some points on Crawford:

- Crawford is the sweet science master, a near perfect boxer-puncher.

- Crawford is the second coming of Sugar Ray Leonard.

- Crawford is the man at welterweight.

- Crawford is the true p4p king.

Grandpa Bob should understand, that Crawford is in prime now, and he should bring the best opposition for Crawford, while Crawford is in it.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by jamesmcdonnell »

Loftgroov wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 03:12
Covfefe wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 01:21
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 01:20
He was in a lot of trouble, didn’t know where he was, bud landed 3 or 4 shots high on his head, kell was one clean shot away from serious damage


He was not done watching this, he’s literally still defending himself form and onslaught, at no point watching that did I expect the ref to stop it.
Any immediate complaints from Brook? He was done. He just got sent flying over to the ropes by a stiff jab and for a moment seemed to paw at his face/eye socket. GGG ruined him. Time to retire.
Exactly, there was zero protest from brook, it was a good stoppage.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by Boxerbeetle »

Maybe those saying it was an early stoppage should actually watch the fight properly, instead of judging by a Twitter clip? Just a thought. :maybe:
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by NoScoutingReports »

Just watched Franco/Moloney 2, so harsh on Moloney that after a quality start, was peppering Franco. Didn't see a headbutt myself and to stick with that decision after seeing all those replay angles is piss poor.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by Kilburn »

I think you’d really have to not like Kell Brook if you were wanting that situation to play out for longer than it did.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by Neil Gee »

Just watched it on Youtube. I was up early enough to have watched it in real time but I just couldn't raise the enthusiasm to set everything up for a fight where the result was such a foregone conclusion. Fair play to Kell he got into terrific shape again to get down to 147, but being in the best shape he could be was never going to be enough against Crawford.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by Wee Tommy »

For once Weeks played it right. Good stoppage. Brook isn’t on Crawford’s level anymore and he turned away from the punches. Game over.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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The stoppage can't be argued at all. How? Brook was stunned very hard. He was very wobby after the fight continued, he was being battered and wasn't answering. No questions here.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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As I said earlier, Brook actually mouth the words “What happened?” to his corner whilst on his stool after the fight. Brook was coming onto the shot which amplified it. Brook also mentioned the “smaller gloves”. They used 10s not 8s right?

To be fair to Brook, when he was defenceless, he took a left & right hook clean to the chin, and still stayed on his feet. It felt ‘soft’, but was only going to end up with Brook unconscious. He took it well. It’s not his level. Come back and have some big domestic nights when the fans are back. Khan vs Brook could be huge. It’s bollocks on the line for someone. Let’s see who’s man enough...
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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Wee Tommy wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 05:33 For once Weeks played it right. Good stoppage. Brook isn’t on Crawford’s level anymore and he turned away from the punches. Game over.
That's how I saw it, Brook had enough, and was saved a humiliating knockout. Not sure he has ever been on Crawford's level mind.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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Twinkle Toes wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 05:37
Wee Tommy wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 05:33 For once Weeks played it right. Good stoppage. Brook isn’t on Crawford’s level anymore and he turned away from the punches. Game over.
That's how I saw it, Brook had enough, and was saved a humiliating knockout. Not sure he has ever been on Crawford's level mind.
No, Brook has never been on Crawford's level. Crawford's level is comparable with the level of the greats like Sugar Ray Leonard. No one today is on this level. Hopefully Crawford proves this soon once and for all.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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DrDuke wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 05:40
Twinkle Toes wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 05:37
Wee Tommy wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 05:33 For once Weeks played it right. Good stoppage. Brook isn’t on Crawford’s level anymore and he turned away from the punches. Game over.
That's how I saw it, Brook had enough, and was saved a humiliating knockout. Not sure he has ever been on Crawford's level mind.
No, Brook has never been on Crawford's level. Crawford's level is comparable with the level of the greats like Sugar Ray Leonard. No one today is on this level. Hopefully Crawford proves this soon once and for all.
Agreed hope he gets to prove it against Spence.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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TheLeprechaun wrote: 14 Nov 2020, 11:05
THEBUTCH wrote: 14 Nov 2020, 10:56 The ending in the Khan v Crawford fight did appear dubious, only Khan will know what was going on at the point he wouldn't box on, however, Amir has displayed bravery time & again. He has often epitomised the phrase 'going out on your shield'.

Getting back to the Crawford v Brook fight, unless Brook can show something tonight that he has never shown before in his entire career, he simply isn't in Crawford's class and never has been or will be. He will get beaten in every department.

Just my opinion but he's faced three world class opponents : GGG was game over before it even started, Porter I don't think is that great at all in world class but fair play to Brook for squeaking out a decision in a poo fight and Spence systematically dismantled him. So what's Crawford going to do ?
The win over Porter aged fairly well. Porter beat Danny Garcia and went real close with Thurman and Spence. GGG was capable of taking flush shots from Brook and walking right through the shots with a blank look on his face - absolutely no chance of Brook winning there.
Brook was holding a shit ton in that Porter fight though. Should have had points deducted in my opinion.

Porter against Thurman, Garcia and Spence made for good fights because they didnt try and adopt Wlad tactics against him.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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Everyone knew Kell didn’t have much left. Especially Ingle. And Kell!
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by Steveh583 »

reckon we'll get brook vs khan now.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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SAPFO wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 05:36 As I said earlier, Brook actually mouth the words “What happened?” to his corner whilst on his stool after the fight. Brook was coming onto the shot which amplified it. Brook also mentioned the “smaller gloves”. They used 10s not 8s right?

To be fair to Brook, when he was defenceless, he took a left & right hook clean to the chin, and still stayed on his feet. It felt ‘soft’, but was only going to end up with Brook unconscious. He took it well. It’s not his level. Come back and have some big domestic nights when the fans are back. Khan vs Brook could be huge. It’s bollocks on the line for someone. Let’s see who’s man enough...
Two washed up former world class fighters going at it, na I'm good.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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black panther wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 05:50
DrDuke wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 05:40
Twinkle Toes wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 05:37

That's how I saw it, Brook had enough, and was saved a humiliating knockout. Not sure he has ever been on Crawford's level mind.
No, Brook has never been on Crawford's level. Crawford's level is comparable with the level of the greats like Sugar Ray Leonard. No one today is on this level. Hopefully Crawford proves this soon once and for all.
Agreed hope he gets to prove it against Spence.
The problem is, I feel like any win against Spence now for Crawford, is going to have an asterisk next to it, because of the car accident. Who knows if he is or will ever be the same fighter again after such a serious accident like that.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

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Steveh583 wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 06:05 reckon we'll get brook vs khan now.
Best matchup for both, as both are fading, vulnerable and popular.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by ash_ »

Steveh583 wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 06:05 reckon we'll get brook vs khan now.
Hope not. It’ll just be whoever’s faded least wins rather than ability.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by ALI »

Nondescript wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 06:08
black panther wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 05:50
DrDuke wrote: 15 Nov 2020, 05:40

No, Brook has never been on Crawford's level. Crawford's level is comparable with the level of the greats like Sugar Ray Leonard. No one today is on this level. Hopefully Crawford proves this soon once and for all.
Agreed hope he gets to prove it against Spence.
The problem is, I feel like any win against Spence now for Crawford, is going to have an asterisk next to it, because of the car accident. Who knows if he is or will ever be the same fighter again after such a serious accident like that.
The Garcia fight should help remove the asterisk. If he looks good in this fight, it removes it for me.

Boxing's matchmaking sucks, expect to see Crawford vs Spence around 2003, or never at all.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Kell Brook - 14 November 2020

Post by handsofstone »

Promising start from Brook, won the first couple, got the jab off and looked pretty sharp but Crawford turning lefty took away that shot, fight ended out of nowhere, jolting right jab stiffened the legs and got Brook a standing count, Crawford one of the best if not THE best finishers in the game was never gonna let him off the hook, great accuracy in the follow up
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